What does Veeky Forums think?

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A lot of has to do with the fact that, despite all the posturing, campaigns, and initiatives, society discourages Women from going into STEM...no white/black/latina girls are getting yelled at by their parents when they get a B or a C on a Math test.

And women who do get into it are either...

>A) Fetishized
>B) Patronized
>C) Ostracized

At least, most of the time.

discarded this brainlets opinion because of her complete misuse of 40% of the words she uses, how does she hope to help people without even helping herself? oh that's right she's too ignorant to realize it

It is certainly true that you need strong mathematical skill to get anywhere in STEM. I think it is a mistake to call it a "barrier"; calculus is the essence of much of STEM, not just dependency to get past.

It is also true that stereotypically, math skill is seen as a boys thing, which I'm sure can form a substantial roadblock. As for the degree to which this stereotype still reflects societal attitudes, or statistical distributions of mathematical talent, I have no idea.

I love how people will state an observation all logical like and then subjectively generalize the problem and solution like they have seen it all but YOU CAN TELL THEY HAVENT.
>this is tied...
It's just such a bummer because these people are so incredibly conceited they will never be able to fully help somebody who's not like them.

It has nothing to do with cultural perception, gift, confidence, or other people. It is only about motovation and (You) get to decide what that is. On average the girls and boys who "felt discouraged" did not want STEM bad enough, that's literally it. Sure, some people have more aptitude and whatnot, but that's got very little bearing on getting a degree in stem.

Teaching girls to pursue an internal locus of control over relationships and the cock is all that needs to happen.

It fucking wont though

This is what I thought too. "barrier", fucking hell that pisses me off, if you don't actively ENJOY mathematics you have no business in any STEM field. Treating it like some obstacle when it's pretty much what you're job is means you will never be a first rate scientist.

I do think there is a point here. Math education has a tendency to be very fatalistic. You either are good at math, or you aren't. Its hard to say this problem is at all centered on gender though. In my experience, the top achievers in math class were usually girls, due to their natural ability to follow instructions and attention to detail. Although for every girl who diligently did her homework and studied, there was a guy who got straight As barely studying.

hmm yes despite literally everywhere you turn there being some sort of movement or advertisement about women going into STEM they are still held victim to something as vague and non-quantifiable as being"discouraged by society" whatever the hell that means

and yeah i personally knew a black girl who would cry whenever she got even a B in a subject during HS. maybe the more logical and simpler explanation is simply that females aren't as likely to be interested in STEM fields as males are.

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As opposed to boys, who as we all know are never patronized or ostracized for having intellectual interests

That's because males tend to be more gifted at systematizing, due to their neurology.