Veganism, like obesity, is a modern luxury

Veganism is an eating disorder. Artificial restriction of diet justifies calorie restriction. Veganism is at best orthorexia (clinical pickiness).

Pretty much.

Most of the "vegans" that existed back in the day were "vegan" because they didn't have any fucking proteins to eat due to poverty / lack of availability.

What? You can get plenty of calories from foods without meat or dairy. Beans, nuts, and seeds are incredibly filling and nutritious.

Having options is a luxury, like the option to enjoy luxuries such as meat every day.

Grain based animal agriculture also requires synthetic b12.

Yeah but most people use it as a justification for restriction. Anything they don't want to eat is not vegan.

>Discuss.

No.

Maybe cut a bit back on the soy to tone down your impotent anger.

So the general populace could afford to be obese before the industrial revolution?

Obesity is a luxury that has only recently become feasible on a national scale.

Like antibiotics, science and air conditioning, veganism improves the value of your life. Stupid carnicucks and their heart disease and diabetes.

>value of your life
hello fellow white person
dont' you just hate what the whites like us are doing to the planet and the minorities?

Vegans and fatties should be fed to free range pigs

t. alienated lower class white man destined to die of a heart attack at 41
enjoy your anger, macro lagers, and opioids

Factually incorrect, thankfully you're irrelevant.

>t. pampered millennial

Vegetarianism was the default diet for most of humanity throughout history, as only the richest in society could afford meat and rear livestock for consumption. Everyone else had to rely on what they could grow, shoot, or milk.

The fact that vegetarianism/veganism has become almost completely optional for the first-world should show just how much the wealth gap between classes has shrunk.

But he's talking about veganism user.

It's the same thing. If you don't subsist on a diet of 100% fast food eaten from your car with the motor running, you're a vegan extremist and racist against white people. Muh cast iron pans!

t. Veeky Forums

>Veganism, like obesity, is a modern luxury.
>Veganism

>eating something that’s less expensive is a luxury
The way vegans in the west eat, yeah, it’s a luxury to have a wide variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts and legumes available all year round which come from all over the world but eating crops that are in season and no imported shit, can hardly be called a luxury when comparing it to eating an animal who’s eating said crops to yield lower overall calories with it’s body compared to the feed which could’ve been fed to humans.

assmad soygoy detected

Vegans are just spoiled brats who live off the labor of meat eaters. Vermin

No, they've had vegetarianism.

>It's the same thing.
Nooo? Vegans won't eat cheese or drink milk, for one. Vegans avoid foods produced using animals or animal products in any way, including honey. Many vegans also avoid household products, clothing, or other items made from animal products or tested on animals. To say nothing of Eggs, that some Vegetarian-lite's will still eat

no indians drink milk and uses milk products in cooking
what do u think ghee is

>Vegan
>Beans and Grains
>Luxury
lol no, veganism is about embracing a simpler way of life before boomers fucked it up. It's poverty food retard

hell, their extensive use of dairy is WHY cows are sacred in India

Ackhually

For a very long time, some grains WERE a luxury. Real poverty food would be things like millet, oats, sorghum, Barley etc. Wheat is highly inefficient and was a rich mans grain.

You are correct about the beans, however. The modern diet for those below the poverty line is principally rice and beans

Was it Seven Samurai where the peasants were like "RICE? all we have here is millet you spoiled urban nu-males"

pedantic

In the United States poverty food is frozen boxed processed foods because modern generations (see, boomers) chose a different lifestyle and never learned from their parents/grandparents because fuck it everything can be bought premade in a box now

Buying meat in a supermarket isn't murder, is scavenging.

>Scavaging
HAHAHAHHA
It's modern concenience consumerism making you totally removed from the process so you can get your plastic prewrapped meat, without the slightest clue where it came from or what the animal was fed.

cause they were rice farmers in a feudal system where rice was cash, they paid taxes and protection in rice and you dont eat your wallet

Yeah nah, don't make our side look bad. People were not fucking vegan back in the day, they kept livestock and made damn use of it. They lived quasi-vegetarian, but were opportunistic omnivores.

*convenience

Finding a dead animal with some meat in it is convenient too.

Correct, in the sense that there is no traditional society that ever lived of a locally sourced vegan diet year round.

Of course a lot of these peoples lived on a diet that was for a large part plant based out of necessity, but they took all the meat, eggs and depending on the culture dairy they could get.

if you don't have other options sure better than buying factory farm meat

Meat is objectively more calorie dense, sweetie.

Incidentally I had the same thought while strolling through the city last week and noticing that only expensive trendy places were about vegan food. It's also generally a choice made by people who have the ability to afford special diets. I haven't seen poor people choosing to be vegan, so I fully agree.

That said, I have no problem with vegans who do it for the right reasons and not to boast,

only urbanite hipster non-vegans who want to eat a "healthy" meal eat at vegan restaurants

>Beans, nuts, and seeds are incredibly filling and nutritious.
They are, I eat them multiple times per week, but I usually still have something with cheese or eggs alongside a bean dish. The protein from animal products is better used by the body and more satisfying. Whenever I've mainly just had beans for a meal without eggs or cheese, I just feel like something is missing and don't feel totally satisfied after finishing the food even though my stomach is full.

Depends on the stuff you eat.
If it takes about as much space & water as livestock, i'd say it is a luxury.

>Most of southern India is vegan
No