Gas Range: A meme? Or is it really that much better than using an electric range?

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I'd pick gas over induction, but both are miles ahead of electric, which is just shit to deal with.

gas is clearly better bc it's really reactive unlike electric stuff that's still hot hours after, gas is cheaper and faster heating.

gas is not a meme, it's top tier for cooking.

question?

Gas cos it smells nicer than electric

It's better because you have better and more responsive temperature regulation, but it sucks if your gas is low calorific crap.

Which is better an instantly changeable bath of hot fluid or an slow changing solid - solid heat interface? Gas will produce hotzones still, so it is reasonable to suggest that a properly designed induction range with the right technique would be the optimal thing to cook with.

gas for saute and electric for simmering/boiling and oven.

Yeah, people gotta understand that while gas is nice and fast it's not as even as an electric stove so thin pans especially produce unpredictable results

Gas, no contest. Instant temperature control, perfect visual cue, extremely responsive (no shit)

and highly inefficient.

ideally you would have a range that has gas & induction burners. They both have their own respective strengths.

>being so poor you care

I only care because gas is shit for boiling.
An electric hob can keep a boil given the same volume of water and product introduced.

Who gives a fuck? High end gas hobs deliver far more power compared to induction. Even with the efficiency loss, higher end gas hobs still deliver more energy to your cook surface.

>Even with the efficiency loss
negative.

>High end gas hobs
These are only available on $5000 stove models.
Unless you're retarded and use commercial ranges in residential buildings.

based on what?

induction max out generally around 3,000w, some have power burners that go up to 3.6-4.6kw, which is roughly equal to 13-18,000 BTU

at ~83-90% efficiency for induction that's ~11,000-16,000 BTU effective.

Gas is 45-60% depending on burner design. So a 20,000 BTU burner is ~12,000 BTU effective. Higher end gas hobs can go up to 25 or even 30,000 BTU. Which would be ~15-18,000 BTU effective. That's a decent bit more than the ~16,000 effective BTU of an induction.

This goes back to this

>buy this 5k stove when an $70 induction does just as well

Do you work for wolf or viking? shill.

More like a $5k wolf and a $3.5k induction.

Anyone spending less than $2500-3000 on a stove/range is a fucking loser faggot.

>reddit stove

poorfag

>he buys good shit because he's not poor and doesn't feel like repairing his appliances every few years because they're modern electronic garbage

Yeah, i'm a shill

>$2500-3000 on a stove/range is a fucking loser faggot.
you've gone full retard now.

>3.5k induction
Or use a $70 1,800 watt and have not problems keeping your boil.

>he buys good shit
He overpays without any benefit.

>1,800 watt
lol nigger, we're talking about real cooking here, not boiling water for your ramen.

1,800w induction is less than 10,000 BTU

Induction is no where near as efficient as gas. Don't you even know that?

You honestly believe high end ovens and ranges have NO advantage over the cheaper ones?

Wow, must be interesting being poor.

So I guess none of you are engineers, right?

In 2013 and 2014 DOE developed and proposed new test procedures for cooking products to allow direct comparison of energy transfer efficiency measurements among induction, electric resistance, and gas cooking tops and ranges. The procedures use a new hybrid test block made of aluminum and stainless steel, so it is suitable for tests on induction cookers. The proposed rule lists results of real lab tests conducted with the hybrid block. For comparable (large) cooking elements the following efficiencies were measured with ±0.5% repeatability: 70.7% - 73.6% for induction, 71.9% for electric coil, 43.9% for gas. Summarizing the results of several tests, DOE affirms that "induction units have an average efficiency of 72.2%, not significantly higher than the 69.9% efficiency of smooth—electric resistance units, or the 71.2% of electric coil units"

Cooking in cast iron (or enameled cast iron for acidic foods) can help compensate for that.

Yes, and consumer reports agrees.

Induction is best by far for boiling or cooking anything immersed in fluid.

Gas for frying, searing, anything else.

Absolutely incorrect. Induction is much more efficient because it makes the cooking vessel the heating element itself. Gas sends the majority of its heat energy right up past the range and out the vent hood.

>consumer reports agrees

>implying convection isn't superior to a standard radiant electric oven

at 15.6c per KWh? Do you even know how to do math?

>I don't really cook but I buy overpriced memes so people think I'm good at it.

It's like nerd culture has spilled over into cooking.

Yeah, this is why all pro chefs have cheap induction ranges at home /s

seriously, get fucked you poor fag retard

>at 15.6c per KWh?
Mine is 30% less than that.

efficiencies were measured with ±0.5% repeatability: 70.7% - 73.6% for induction, 71.9% for electric coil, 43.9% for gas
>efficiencies for gas 43.9%
>gas 43.9%
>43.9%

I know you people are generally stupid. But gas is cheap per BTU vs. that crazy thing you call electricity. Do you fucking idiots get that? Electricity to generate heat.. BAD, gas burning is GOOD.

Figure your stupid shit out before you talk.

>15.6c per KWh
Damn, that's ridiculous. We pay 4-8c here in Texas

Asshole, I'm talking about municipal costs. How did you not get that?

Doesn't matter when veg is sitting in simmering water and you are waiting for it to come back to a boil. You think to yourself, damn gas sucks.

So you're talking about shit nobody cares about except poorfags.

Poorfags aren't wanted in this thread, faggot poor

That's because you live in a fracking infested shithole of poison. Your children are going to die from Toluene poisoning coming from the ground you fracked like the stupid assholes you are.

You sound really poor.

at least i'm not calculating cost per kw/h.

fucking poor holy fuck.

You probably can't afford to or learn how to do it. lol

>counts pennies
>thinks he's rich
>does arithmetic
>thinks he's smart
How fucking deluded are you?

Whats a kilowatt hour? What's that crazy Ohm's law horseshit? You people are like human dog shit when you're talked to.

Clearly you're a wealthy aristocrat on Veeky Forums. Not just a fucking idiot child pretending. Everyone believes you.

>uses ohms law to make people think he's smart
Holy shit. at least reference something a 4 year engineer would have to know, not something you'd learn in a high school physics class.

you want a smith chart about how fucking stupid you are? I probably could do that. I was talking in baby language.

>certainly exceeded
kek, fucking moron

Yeah, caught my autocorrect mistake and deleted.
Fuck off.

>autocorrect
wew, so you're a phone posting nigger faggot too?

Go back to plebbit.

>he's so poor he can't afford a cell phone
Let me guess you have a 10 year old thinkpad running ubuntu and a flip phone right?

My dad got a gas range with his new place and he complains it takes forever to boil water now.
Is he just being dumb or is that accurate?

Any of you fucking idiots here to compare the cost of natural gas to electricity?

He needs different pots, or just tell him to relax.

No because nobody cares about cost.
We care about boiling water, actual cooking.

in some places, natural gas is cheap and abundant, more so than electricity

in other backwards places, like the deep south, NOBODY has gas lines running to their house so electricity is a necessity.

No, I have a workstation and a Note8. Workstation is running ESXi with Arch and a windows 10 VM.

GPU is being passed through directly to the windows VM for gaming and other graphical needs.

So you're a fucking child with dad paying the bills.

>boiling water, actual cooking
if you think boiling water = actual cooking, i've got some bad news for you mate.

Real chefs do a LOT more than boil water on the range.

but you or anyone else in this thread is a real chef

so basically, induction is king.

>Workstation
Workstations died with UNIX. it's just a PC.

You're talking to fucked up depressed Veeky Forums children. Don't talk to them, they're almost ready to suicide. Don't talk to them.

>the deep south, no gas
keep talking about shit you know nothing about.

It has no iGPU, quad channel memory, and hot swap-able drive bays. It's about as close to a real workstation as you get in today's world.

Are you retarded?

Most of you people are ready to kill yourselves, right? You've got your plans to die..

>ESXi
Just run Linux on the bare metal and use IOMMU Passthrough with QEMU for the VM. There's no reason to abstract every system that far.

>implying most of the US's natural gas isnt sourced out of the deep south/gulf of mexico

ECC is necessary for workstations.

Fight me. You've never had an actual SUN or HP9000 on your desk have you?

Specialized SPARC workstations are dead, that doesn't mean modern workstations don't exist. Unification of architecture didn't obliterate them from existence.

>ECC is necessary for workstations.
depends on the workload and use-case.

Also, at current RAM prices you can get fucked if you think i'm replacing my current RAM.

Hell, I could sell my current RAM for 2-3x what I originally paid.

Gas is best in terms of cooking utility, instant temp control. But it's not the safest option. Induction is a decent second place in terms of cooking utility and is the safest possible option. Induction is only a problem if you cook with ceramic or other non-metal bullshit.

The worst option is conventional electric.

>or other non-metal bullshit
Or you know, aluminium or copper.

>Gas is bad because thin pans are bad.
Oh kay.

That looks like a big slop of shit.

What do you mean highly inefficient?
If you don't have shit pans, gas is really efficient and has an unbeatable searing.
Also I might be a bit biased because my stove is the most expensive thing in my home.

read the thread
>43.9% efficiency for gas.

Yeah my Dad just bought a Ram 3500 with a Cummins and I doubt he could sell it for more than he paid. Idiot

He's talking about his gayman PC.

The only thing that sucks about gas is that it leaves a film-residue on the walls that is a complete bitch to clean. It's so sticky and obnoxious. I always liked the complete control, though...

Live in an apartment with electric. Is it worth it to buy a portable gas stove to cook with?

What's the issue if gas is almost as free as air over here?

This. Coils are a fucking joke and induction doesn't change quickly enough.

We are talking about actual performance, not cost.