Meat is murder

I can’t be a vegan because I’m from New England and ice cream is an essential part of our diet.

A want is not a need

>Why do you still eat animals
Because I don't fucking care.

Now get off my lawn before you ruin it.

Dont lie, you eat vegi tonight becsuse you stand United with me as your vegan leader

Chickens can cry you know

There are people who think this is a clever counterpoint. You'd think the cholesterol in meat would keep a person's brain healthy, but obviously not.

I've been vegan for 8 years

I generally dislike meat and eat vegetarian 95% but no amount of nagging or animal suffering will ever make me give up smoked ribs or a nice filet mignon

You can get smoked rib flavoured tofu, and have a filet of soya instead, trust me you won't know the difference

If you're going to troll you could at least do us all the courtesy of putting an ounce of effort into it you fucking lameo

So can your mother but that didn't stop me doing what I wanted with her.

You should have seen her bawling her eyes out when the butler brought out her platter of gourmet chocolates as our personal orchestra swelled. You could tell she felt more special than she ever had in a long time. Her tears kept streaming out, but I didn't even come close to caring enough to stop it.

How very dare you, as so proclaimed leader of the vegans, I denounce you

Kys

Yep, delicious murder.

Have you ever seen a cow being artificial insaminated, do you know what it involves

How's the fatigue?

Your very existence kills other creatures constantly. End yourself, vegfag.

>things are complicated so don't even try

>Species is intelligent enough to farm prey as to remove the need to hunt
>Chickens have literally no emotional intelligence and can function without a majority of their brain
>Our species needs protein and a majority of Americans don't get enough protein as is
Why should I even consider it?

Have you ever seen a cow sue the farmer for rape?
Do they even understand the concept of existence?

why is it that the only arguments against vejanism are asinine personal attacks and pseudo science?

Because modern animal farming practice is torture, and our species is intelligent enough to farm a wide enough variety of foods that animal products are unnecessary.

Why is it the only arguments for Veganism are vegans saying "meat is murder" ad nauseam?

Fight fire with fire

Ok that's fair, but the animals being tortured don't understand the concept of death, so why should I care?

I don't experience fatigue. Kratom is part of my vegan diet

Vegan, more like supplementarian.

I get the occasional flatulence, but that's part and parcel of eating a lot of beans, it's a small price to pay

Ethics is a lifelong personal journey, user. I can't make you feel the import with a logical argument, it comes with experience. I mean, I could try to fully elucidate it, but there's a reason that books on philosophy are so wordy. All I can really do is remind you that your outlook isn't universal.

With my leadership the movement is growing

>it’s wrong
This all depends on your perspective and frankly there aren’t many perspectives on your side.
>Biblically it’s not wrong
>Evolutionarily it’s not wrong
Do you believe in pantheism? Do you think god is in the animals and everything?
Do you believe that animals could be humans in past lives?
In what sense is eating meat a MORAL issue other than
>muh leftist contradictory morals
or
>muh feels

You can't really argue with the moral aspect of it. The health aspect sure, there's no reason that being a vegan is healthier than an omnivore with a balanced diet. But morally, you're killing less than other people, which is a good thing.

However, meat IS natural for us to eat. It does provide health benefits. I eat meat maybe once a week but I won't argue with vegans about morality. I think a better solution to stopping the mistreatment of animals and them being killed is cultured/lab-grown meat and other animal products though.

Also in some places it's hard to grow crops but easy to raise cattle. It's unrealistic to expect these places to give up their food security and go vegan, relying on surrounding areas for food who could cut them off at any time.

I am not a vegan but I do agree that meat is murder.

animals are being killed and eaten by humans.

I do enjoy eating meat but vegan alternatives are just to expensive.

I am trying to cut down on meat but I don't think i can elliminate it from my life just yet

And yet you have implied by saying this that his ethics are wrong and yours are right

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>He think's it's bad to "steal" from Bee's
What a fucking retarded way to live

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circle of life, nigger

Are you saying I'm morally misguided because I choose to continue to eat meat despite knowing what it entails?
If that's true your "ethics are different between everybody" argument is null, so are you telling me I have misguided ethics or I'm allowed to adopt my own ethics as I age?

>eating animals is wrong
nice opinion.