This is literally just a Marxist trying to explain the phenomena that /pol/ calls Cultural Marxism

This is literally a Marxist butthurt that de Gaulle was popular and that revolutionary politics didn't look viable anymore in the Golden Age of Capitalism.

It is kind of dated by now. Rising inequality in the West has made revolutionary communism viable again, as shown by Negri.

>/pol/ discovers cultural marxism offers a better critique of cultural marxism

Revolutionary communism has never been less viable in the West. If anything what you'll see is the return of volkisch-type movements. Class conflict will be an issue but classlessness is not palpable to anybody.

Firebomb /pol/'s memes.

>Cultural Marxism is a meme
>Cultural Marxism came from /pol/

Of all people you pick Negri. At least Situationist writing had a style and a force of conviction. Even The Invisible Committee is better and they're equally larpers.

>the Golden Age of Capitalism.
This is the Plastic Age of Capitalism, user.

>I have no idea what a meme is.
> I R 14

Its not like there isn't some truth in what /pol/ preaches, its more what they blame and their solutions where it goes wrong

Well the first thing I would point out is that their theoretical skill is seriously and fatally lacking. Their way of thinking servers better as a material for jokes.

>Its not like there isn't some truth in what /pol/ preaches, its more what they blame and their solutions where it goes wrong

Don't minimize their retardation.

It's like a guy who has heartburn, decides it means he has appendicitis, and his solution is to drink bleach and pour acid into his asshole.

>I talk like a retard but expect people to take me seriously

There's a higher level of discussion on 8/pol/ than there is anywhere on Veeky Forums

You didn't need that arrow, user.

>tfw you stop browsing lit in 2012 and you come back 5 years later and Butterfly is still fucking here

Get a fucking job

My experience tells me otherwise, although Veeky Forums truly is a shithole most of the time.
Even if true though I'd rather read the "cultural marxists" that Veeky Forums shitposts than read /pol/ discussions. Maybe try doing the same, you'll be surprised at how dumb /pol/'s "theories" sound in comparison.

I have had this one steady jarb for nearly ten fucking years now. I left for a whole year and now only make the occasional visit not yet totaling two weeks worth.
Get a pussy.

maybe if you're from /pol/ or reddit
you worthless insect

I sure hope not, that would be awful.

I've been going to multiple boards on both websites for years now and I stand by my statement. That's not to say there aren't still good boards on Veeky Forums but most of them are shit and none of them are 8/pol/ quality, at least are far as that subject matter is concerned.

/pol/ would agree with most Marxist critiques. Actually most people probably would. They start losing people when they start proposing remedies.
Critiquing is really fucking easy. Building a functioning society that doesn't oppress the 3rd world, doesn't become a slave to autonomous capital, and tries to maximize the freedom and happiness of people is not so easy.

Why is the most retarded board even mentioned here ?

>Negri

No you don't.

The end-game (after Anders, Charbonneau, late-Debord and early Ouldamer) is l'Encyclopédie des Nuisances and their edition house.

Jaime Semprun, Miguel Amoros, René Riesel, Baudouin de Bodinat.

You can add to that list Jean-Pierre Voyer, the sociological writings of Alain Soral (late 90s and very early 2000s period), and Pièces et Main d'Oeuvre.

Nearly all French, I know.

The denial about cultural marxism is hilarious considering Europeans were writing about cultural bolshevism ruining socities in 20s.

>alain soral
>unironically recommending memes

>The denial about cultural marxism is hilarious considering Europeans were writing about cultural bolshevism ruining socities in 20s.

You mean yellow journalism claiming that the USSR had socialized women and made them public property for sex

His Comments on the Society of the Spectacle book is better because he was older

>he thinks Vers la féminisation ? and Abécédaire de la bêtise ambiante are not great

autonomism is cancer, stop eating shit

Brékkek

Society of the Spectacle is a 10/10 examination of modern society. The criticisms are generally fair, and still very relevant.

>Cultural Marxism is a meme

The very model of a meme.

You clearly don't understand his concept of the "spectacle".

Except they aren't, because Debord liked to take agency away from people and failed to predict modern media.

Debord talks about relationships between people mediated by images, /pol/ talks about relationships between images mediated by Joos

>He's so stupid he can't even grasp /pol/'s arguments
user if you can't understand /pol/'s arguments then I don't know why you're even here, you're not going to be able to grasp anything in Veeky Forums.

>liked to take agency away from people
>from a Marxist
Almond activated, all that.

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Why can't people into using proper forms of Greek words? It's phenomenON you worthless fuck

|Marxist critical theory by Guy Debord
lmfao

>Debord liked to take agency away from people and failed to predict modern media
"Modern media" i.e. social media is even worse, it simulates agency while everybody is actually just a node with the system or a flow managed by the system. Better be alienated than integrated. That's where Debord is kinda outdated, not because he was too much of a pessimist.

LOL yeah, what a spurdo, 5d chess amirite?

How to escape the spectacle?

What they call cultural marxism isn't what Debord describes as spectacle. You need to read it again.

>Attempting to make fun of /pol/ with memes from /int/ and reddit
The absolute state of Veeky Forums

I don't know what you just said but it was probably something about me being redpilled, thanks white brother, remember to read Culture of Critique when we finally build kekistan

You shouldn't tell other people to read if you can't read, newfriend

You're right. Of course, how foolish of me to not remember that reading is the primary method of the ivory tower postmodern cultural marxists in their efforts to suppress racial consciousness and the realization of the apex of human achievement in western civilization. This is a struggle not to be won through words but through memes. Shadilay, my friend.

Panegyric is the apex of his work desu

Society of the Spectacle: let's investigate reification under capitalism, how it's processes has transformed our interaction with other human beings and our own thought processes.

"Cultural Marxism": The jews are bringing all the black people here to keep me from getting a gf.

No user, memes like "cultural marxism" is precisely a part of the spectacle.

>meme.
oh it's just pure coincidence that media, academia and state institutes are eroding the western heritage then, across europe and u.s. and only places where this doesn't happen are places like poland which are anticommunist as hell.

yeah, pure coincidence, just a meme goy.

Obscurantism and lying isn't tolerated here bud

>"Cultural Marxism": The jews are bringing all the black people here to keep me from getting a gf.

We're reaching levels of strawman that shouldn't even be possible

You people couldn't agree on a coherent definition of what "the white heritage" involves if your lives depended on it.

X>10110116
Obviously it refers to the Greco-Roman tradition that spread to parts of Europe and to the United States, and its morphed variants.

Don't know why this is such a complex thing for leftypol shills like (You)

>Greco-Roman tradition that spread to parts of Europe and the United States

Have you ever read a history book? If you think it's as simple as saying "Greeks make culture, Romans spread culture to Europe, Euros spread culture to America" I would recommend reading some primary sources from the Middle Ages.

>Attacking your own strawman to prove someone else wrong.

Really weird tactic you got there

lmao

This is the reductive argument most "traditionalists" make: Greeks made the culture, Romans took the culture, Euros got the culture. That's what I tried to parse from the meaningless pseud babble ("Greco-Roman tradition that spread to parts of Europe and to the United States, and its morphed variants.") that you wrote.

What were you trying to say?

haha fucking hell

No, you are again attacking your own strawman you created to disprove me. Highly ironic you call others ironic while you repeat this.

So why don't you clarify your argument?

Because I know from your hostile attacks in this thread and in the previous thread, that no definition will ever suit you because you are inherently anti-white.

Inequality has been falling in the U.K. for 30 years. Revolutionary communism is internationalist and could not be more the opposite of the unrest you are seeing now. I'm sure lots of people want "global class struggle"... in your head

I () am not All you're doing is proving that white nationalists are edgier, more easily offended liberals. Personally I detest you both

Pol is too keen to invoke conspiracy theories and not seriously look at what's gone wrong in the West and how it can be fixed

Moldbug is more interesting here. As is Faye etc

Pol is just obsessed with foreigners out --- greatness

It's European culture. Mediterranean (pre Islam), Germanic and Slavic. Derived from the classics but heavily influenced by Judaism via Christianity.

How am I edgy? What have I said, that is edgy? That white culture and western heritage exist? Is that now, considered, edgy?

Bloom is edgy too, then.

Being "pro-white" is the edgy, contrarian political posture de jour. It's what New Atheism was in 2007. Calling anything "anti-white" is pretty much euphoric, and it's something Bloom refrains from doing

Bloom acknowledges Western heritage by proxy of being one of the biggest speakers of pro-Western canon (despite people crying its too anglocentric these days) Which was the wording in my original post too.

Are you actually the original butterfly? If so
1. You sound a little more composed congrats
2. Why would you still post here considering you made a complete fool of yourself previously, your raging autistic.

If you are just using butterflys name; why.

Saved

R u this dumb

Just because you cant perfectly define something doesnt mean it isnt real

Define in a perfect and concise way happiness. Freaking pleb thinks happiness is real what an idiot.

>using french words when you could of perfectly used good ol english.

Just get the heck out of here vermin.

>posture de jour
It's posture DU jour you faggot

>Soral

And recommending Voyer over here is pure madness; anyway his latest ramblings are Soral-tier, without the "punch a Conversano" part

thing is that /pol/ did not invent the term but they frequently use it if that is what you refer to

So you could lose your job or go to jail for being atheist in 2007?

half correct, it did not come from /pol/ but just like santa claus it is textbook definition of a meme

/pol/ would probably enjoy reading Debord and Adorno if they could get past le critical theory boogeyman

I agree it seems a bit on trend and that makes it appear lightweight, but there are valid points. Culture and race are linked

Those that grew up went to /leftypol/, with or without Debord and Adorno.

>/pol/
>reading

The average age on leftypol is about 14 and you know this. Leftism is inherently immature. No one whose met a lot of people and worked with them in different environments can believe in equality as being true or desireable. The rightwards drift with age is seen in all classes and all societies; it is not linked to becoming wealthier

There's nothing sadder than a 40 year old that believes in a socialist revolution

its more of a financial situation thing, I'm a closeted leftist myself but I always support right-wingers so I can pay less taxes, had I been poor I would mostly vote for social democrats. I'm not so engaged that I would quit my well paying job and join dead unions, unless I see a revolution on sight I'll just keep on supporting the status quo

>social democrats
>leftist

wew

You think current poor working class people can actually organize a revolution? social democrats are their only option

Do you mean democratic socialists? Social democrats and democratic socialists are different things

>/pol/ calls cultural Marxism consumerism
Fucks sake, cultural Marxism is the synthesis between Marxist and Post Modern philisophy that are reconciled through critical theory and are expressed via socdem, demsoc, and anarcho feminists leanings.

How many more times to I have to explain the difference between historical and colloquial meanings, it's basic semantics ffs.

T./pol/

I did. I like Dialectic of Enlightenment , but The Authoritarian Personality is just blatantly trying to pathologize the dialectic of the right wing.

>Tfw used to be anarchist then became a fascist