How's the writing career coming, Veeky Forums?

How's the writing career coming, Veeky Forums?

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Currently outlining the first story I'm gonna write.

I wrote 0 words and thought of writing on 3 separate occasions.

Don't think it's gonna happen desu. Spend most of my time on here creating race bait threads and compaining about women and jews. Haven't written a paragraph in 4 weeks and I haven't read a book since Febuary

I had this really nice idea for 5 short stories with a common theme, and little connections between them. I already wrote a little of the first one(about 10 pages in word).
But I recently read really good books and became extremely disappointed in what I was writing. To the point I don't want to write the stories at all.

Why even try?

Managed to convince the PI to let me write my papers in active voice recently.

Horribly! Fuck you for asking

Still around 43k into the novel, made the massive mistake of trying to correct a previous chapter which set me back because I forgot where I wanted to go next. Dumb ass move - I'll never learn. Still chugging along

I heard from a friend of mine who has a few books published that instead of the old days when publication was based on the decision of a single editor, these days manuscripts are reviewed by an entire committee so that only the most mediocre stuff that can satisfy everyone gets through.

I had a friend who reviewed a short story of mine recently, one that I kind of jotted down quickly. She thought there wasn't much there, which wasn't surprising, but then she went on to say that my writing style sounds like I've only ever read old British guys and am trying to emulate them. She says I need to read more contemporary fiction to get a sense of how people speak and write in this day and age.

How do I respond to that? My writing emulates older writers because I happen to like them. I actually do think people like Dickens and Austen and Chesterton are among the greatest writers in the history of the English language, and so I go to them to learn how to be a writer. When I was younger, my writing was more simplistic and more "modern," but that's just because I didn't know any better. I write the way I do these days because I grew up and evolved.

It bugs me, because she also said I could wind up being a good, even great, writer if I could change my ways. But I'm not sure I want to change.

I never written a novel before. Was going to try. Depression kind of getting in the way of really starting anything. I don't know what I want to do with my life. Everyone thinks im a loser.

I can write, I know that. I think I've reliably got the hang of recognising when I'm writing something good so I can improve on it too. I'm about 40k words into this first draft; it's nearly all planned out to the end and I'm seemingly writing faster as time goes on.
No idea how long the edits and redrafts will take though.

Dude I totally agree, I love reading old english authors, but the syntax is fucked, everything is too rigid and formal. just dial it back like halfway. structure your writing in a similar way, but make an effort to be a smoother read

Having a novel published in a limited edition(2k books) in my native language.

Try Bernard Cornwell.

He writes historical adventure fiction in an old-timey fashion that millenials can still understand.

8000 words in the last week. Can't say any of them were particularly good, though

On my 3rd draft of a 100k-word story. Sick to my teeth of revising the same sections over and over but I am told that I should feel that way.
Have to find a publisher though, and I have no fucking clue how to go about that. I looked into self-publishing a while back, but I'm fairly sure it ain't for me.

Better to finish the story then go back and fix it. I always felt like the first goal should be finishing the story.

>mfw just waiting to die and my gibberish novel will get picked up in 100 years and celebrated as a literary genius

Unreservedly this. It is much easier to go back and retroactively fix a story once you have it complete.

Terribly

I'm a white working class male

My actual workshop job is going ok though

I am a post doc researcher and write a lot of papers, so that's going well, but of course I don't consider it the same as being a writer. It gives me an outlet but I find the format and culture a bit creatively stifling at times. Especially since I often have a supervisor tacking his name on my paper. I do all the work and write it up, but someone gets to say, "I don't like this" or make vague edits/suggestions that take me a lot of work to revise, and they get credit. Then come the reviewers. I welcome the science being reviewed and criticized, but sometimes they don't like your language, prefer run-of-the-mill words over more literary ones, complain that your discussion goes beyond the scope of the paper, etc.

It's been bothering me over the last couple years. I have very little free time, but one day I would like to start working on a fictional novel. I think this would give me the creative outlet I need.

Didn't even receive a reply from any of the contests I entered

transition and you might sell like hot cakes... imagine, a working-class T. woman with her own workshop... but, at night, they turn the workshop into a slam poetry extravaganza

I always imagined it would happen but I'm 24 and have never written anything in my life.

>my identity is why I can't get published and not my shitty derivative work
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So maybe stop posting retarded shit and ruining this board?

>older = better
It doesn't. You probably just write purple as fuck anyway.

>prefer run-of-the-mill words over more literary ones
It's almost like they want things to be understandable

I just finished over 14,000 words in my play (Act II, Scene IV right now). All of them are in iambic pentameter. I'm doing well.

Over the last 4 weeks, I've gone to 4 different poetry nights at 4 different places. You can say what ever you want of my poetry, but I hope one could never said I was not a hard working poet.

I admittedly like jargon but I know enough to stay away from getting to heavy in that, on account of general readership. However, sometimes less common words are simply better.

I don't know why people think having to look up a work is such a bad thing. If we don't use more obscure words, they effectively go extinct.

I always get a (sometimes) good idea for a novel, then start writing around ~500 words into, conclude it's too boring and stop.

>I don't know why people think having to look up a work is such a bad thing. If we don't use more obscure words, they effectively go extinct.
Because it's an academic paper, not a novel.

Been trying for a year to get a literary agent to pick up my novel, but no dice. It kind of blows that only one in ten will even dignify you with a response after months of waiting and just copypasted boilerplate at that.

You do you user. Go with a style you excel at and actually enjoy writing. You'll produce better work.

These nanowrimo tier Young Adult 'writer' people really bother me. They're like gardeners all competing to make the most perfect section of hedge, which is all very well but when you're done all you've done is make a hedge. They're all technically different, the plants have different branches, different leaves but they're all just hedges. All grown using the same rules to prune and feed them. None of them take chances, they never try other methods or aim for something other than a hedge, no experiments, no creativity, no personality.
Endless miles of tidy privet hedges.
Not one looks further than the end of their nose and takes it as a personal affront should anyone suggest there's anything out there beyond it, that perhaps gardening isn't just about making hedges using the same plant formula.
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Post your prose

got my thousand words in today. was a littl vignette that im not sure if it will make the final cut.

waiting to hear back from a few journals for short story submissions. i dont hold out much hope but you never know.

also thinking about starting a blog to kill off my need for instant publishing gratification. not too keen on whoring myself on twitter to get readers, though

Academic papers are above communicating (usually novel) ideas as precisely as possible. A focus on run of the words is a barrier to that.

>but I hope one could never said I was not a hard working poet
When it comes to your grammar, you're obviously a hardly working poet

It’s coming along. Just started a new novel. I’ve been a little rusty because I took some time off so I’m trying a little fan fiction for the first time to get limbered up.

I'm trying to apply to philosophy grad school but I'm only convincing up close and in person. All the professors say I write really well and understand the material (one even bought me a beer), but I'm completely fucked when they ask me about my interests or what they ought to say about me in letters of rec. Same goes for picking out places to apply, they've all got these dumb webpages about "excellence" and other "a tour de force/ an instant classic" tier non-descriptions. I don't get how to understand schools without going through their faculty and reading one or two books by each professor (which I don't have the time to do). I've just been ensuring any time I'd normally waste moping goes into my fiction novel, since that just requires opening up word and getting down to business.

These literary fiction 'writer' people really bother me. They're like gardeners all competing to make the most perfect section of hedge, which is all very well but when you're done all you've done is make a hedge. They're all technically different, the plants have different branches, different leaves but they're all just hedges. All grown using the same rules to prune and feed them. None of them take chances, they never try other methods or aim for something other than a hedge, no experiments, no creativity, no personality.
Endless miles of tidy privet hedges.
Not one looks further than the end of their nose and takes it as a personal affront should anyone suggest there's anything out there beyond it, that perhaps gardening isn't just about making hedges using the same plant formula.
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You don't belong on this board, friendo.

meh. This is a Veeky Forums post. It's not like I'm focusing on making elegant and correct sentences.

Any sane white non-faggot on this board aspiring to have a "career" in writing is delusional. There is literally no money there for you.

You still working at that truck depot gaskun?

I had a chance to get published recently but missed out because I failed to meet the deadline. How badly did I screw up?

If you work is publishable, as it seemed to be, you can just let it get published by another publisher

you screwed up so badly you missed the chance to get published recently

Negative. I’m a manager at an organization that treats kids with autism. I should have them yelling about “David Foster Wallace being a spook” by the end of the week.

>I should have them yelling about “David Foster Wallace being a spook” by the end of the week.
>Gaskun using memes trying to be hip

Nah, just shitposting.

I thought you were dead? Please rectify this.

I’m 2 chapters in but college is taking up my time

Lol, me too, but they take like half a year. I'll have sent about 10 before the end of the year, which is less than the 12 that I aimed for, but still ok.

Don't judge writing quality based on Veeky Forums posts, a lot of us only use English to post here.

Yes but I can use an obscure word that precisely expresses an idea or character versus using a sentence to do so.

Always when I write it turns to shit; I write everything too detailed, making sentences very boring, or I write everything leaving out details, which makes everything too fast-paced. This demotivates me, thus I've so far never written something longer than 1,000 words. Is practice the only way to let me write better?

In fact, not dead.

Not great since my marriage is at a bit of a low point. Really not feeling the stigmatism of sorrow creating better art. Just don't feel motivated at all.

Can make about $100-$300 off my porn a week if I'd work at it harder. Getting ready to rewrite my first novel staring my fursona.

>the rejection letters just keep coming

You're probably like me. Here's my suggestion: write way too much so that if you write 1000 pages, you'll have a real solid fifty pages to go from. Just keep going. You might also be trying too hard to do something specific. Start with a few characters and analyze the crap out of them. Develop sentences outside your story with the only intention of getting better at prose writing. Read poetry and your favorite prose stylists for this.

Please fix

How do I into perversion for profit? I'm a sick fuck, I'd be willing to have a go at porn.

Have you broke into 4 figures profit on your self published stuff?

I got published over the summer. Sent a few other stories out there that are ok, but didn't get picked up. Decided to shelf them, probably could get them published if i kept spamming them out there, but it wouldn't really mean anything if they did get picked up. Just be another mediocre space saver in some journal nobody will really care about. Sent another decent one out to a ss contest, and have 2 really good ones laying around I should edit but haven't.

Working on this sort of insane idea for a short novel I want to self publish, just to see what happens basically.

Other than that...I got like 3 novels sitting around I still want to send out to publishers, but I wanted to build up more creds before I do that.

Just recovered from surgery too, and I'm trying to get back into the habit of writing.

Got something I wrote published after a friend submitted it for me.

why did you have your friend submit it...?

He submitted it himself as a joke.

A professor friend of mine proposed me to publish one or two of my short stories in one collection he is preparing for publish

So, I made my best effort and procrastinate the past few months and haven't written a single word. How do you cope with this anons? Do you have a efficient method of suicide?

Just self publish

Different user but Isn't self publishing expensive af? At least outside of the US I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm only just barely starting writing my novel but every now and then I think about what I'll do once I get it done. I'll have to look for a publisher that will believe a thousand percent on my work and not screw me over like my sister was.
At the time she was a teen and besides the publisher wanting most of the profit made, they practically didn't promote her book at all. Now she's grown into a comic book hater with about 75 prints in her possesion that she can't get around to selling because she feels she failed miserably. That's her shame and she carries it around.

I want to start writing fantasy books as a hobby. Atleast shitty ones that people would be willing to read for free.
Obviously, my first steps should be reading Tolkien's LOTR/Hobbit, learning how to make an OK fantasy map in Gimp
Any other steps that I must take? Maybe start writing shitty fiction on some site? I feel like I could write something 10 times better than those fucking chinese [x pages per hour] novelists.

Self-publishing doesn't cost anything. What your sister did was get scammed by a vanity publisher. That's not the same.
writersandartists.co.uk/writers/advice/255/self-publishing/considering-self-publishing/self-publishing-vs-vanity-publishing-confused

Archaic prose sounds pretentious, she is right.

entering a monetary essay completion tomorrow. ez money
This is the first step of my master plan

It's the same with me. My love of Conrad and Melville is simply too strong, I've even been accused of putting on airs or plagiarising on this board. Blaze your path but don't expect contempory urbanites to get excited.

>self publish
>>>r/writing

>On my 3rd draft of a 100k-word story. Sick to my teeth of revising the same sections over and over but I am told that I should feel that way.
Oh shit, nigga, you're totally me. Although I have 2k more words and trying to get it down to 100k. And I am at the last 14k.

As for publishing, manuscriptwishlist and querytracker are the best accessible portals I found to look for agents. Specially on the former, the majority probably isn't looking for what you got but there has to be one or two agents that fit. Besides, it's nice to overlook the general requirements.

That's like two pages ... why don't you start with a fucking outline first?

It's all about the frequency, even if you're writing a book for kids, a few complex and rare words can be pretty inspiring for the readers, especially if you made easy to deduce the meaning with context. If you're filling your entire prose with obscure shit, it's given that most readers will be annoyed since you're basically writing meaningless babble that could as well be in a foreign language.

To an audience comfortable with the jargon.

John Green isn't officially a faggot, is he?

>That's like two pages ... why don't you start with a fucking outline first?
I have the story outlined in big parts, will make the outlines more detailed.

That should help for sure. Did you start writing from the start? If yes perhaps switch to "easier" scenes in the middle/end, or even random mostly meaningless dialogue scenes. The more stuff you have, almost any kind of stuff, the easier it is to add more and more once it flows, and later you can trim and get rid of the bloat.

start with the big parts then make the outlines gradually more and more detailed. voila, a story. now all you need to do is go through it making the notes into real sentences.

Build a fan base on Fur Affinity and take cracks at commission, I do 2 cents a word. You better be good, could use a fire under my ass.

Academic papers aren't for the uneducated masses. The understanding of specialist so the field can develop supercedes the understanding of the uneducated

That was my point. They can use much more obscure jargon than any writer could get away with, because they are targeting a very specific group. Even first year pharmacological research makes Finnegans Wake look like a simplistic book for kindergarteners. Just what point is there in writing for a POTENTIAL readership of few thousands if one has any ambitions to become somewhat relevant?

>Self-publishing doesn't cost anything
it has to cost something. A publisher simply won't let you publish your work as you like and then charge nothing for it.

27 here. Didn’t get published until 26.

When you get down about your age, remember authors like DeLillo or Saunders or dare I say Murakami, who didn’t begin writing until their late twenties or early thirties.

Without question Life gets in the way, but don’t give up.

Suffered for a couple years, poured my heart out into a narrative, got an agent, and subsequently got scammed.

>shit left me mortified

So now I spend my time drinking and psychologically torturing people, gaslighting my exes--even drove one into checking herself in a funny house. May write a story just about that, make it autobiographical.

>A pathetic, alcoholic writer angry at the world decides himself to be a cancer and takes joy in corrupting everything---perfect chevy chase esque comedy

Horrendous plot, abandon immediately.

jesus christ you're an awful person, i hope you're miserable

Seems like you've been watching too much rick and morty, faggot

> Suffered for a couple years, poured my heart out into a narrative, got an agent, and subsequently got scammed.

quit ur bitchin

>a publisher
>self publishing

that's what I got from the article. What is it actually?

Can't tell if satire or... but I got an agent too, however I was smart enough to know she wasn't full of shit and I bet your work isn't even worth a pubic hair in a public urinal, doused in chlamydia contaminated urine. You don't get anywhere in life as a horrible human being, in fact that makes you an even worse writer despite the common narrative. Everyone suffers, everyone gets fucked over, and nihilism isn't edgy. Went through that phase in college and it only got me thrown the fuck out. Sort yourself out bucko!

Self-publishing today means making your book available on an amazon-like service and/or print-on-demand like lulu. It costs the writer nothing, the service just takes a cut from every sale.
If a 'publisher' says they want to publish your book but you'll have to pay some of the printing fees, it's a scam.

well shit out of luck for me. I don't think there's such a system in Poortugal and I'm not writting in english

Why would you be out of luck? Even if you were right, Portugal would still have a system for publishing like every other country did before the Internet.
Anyway;
portugalist.com/amazon-portugal-shipping/
publishersglobal.com/directory/portugal/publishers-in-portugal/
I got this with a brief search in English, if you actually speak Portuguese you can probably find even more useful information.

well I'll be damned

I'm writing 10 books actually. I plan to finish them around the same time.
I'm going to be declared the biggest writer of the decade. Not kidding.