At what age did you grow out of post modernism?

>we need a /yootoober/ board. this shits getting unreasonable
If you read his first book then we could discuss that. We should have Veeky Forums book club. I know I got my copy sitting on the table, I'm only 60 pages in though.

Yeah, all of Peterson's fans totally "grew out" of postmodernism, all those 20 year old Derrida experts

As if this site didnt only use him as a way to eloquently dismiss things they never seriously considered in the first place.

in this book: primary source examples of big names in pomo going full retard. after this level of MOAB redpilling it's hard to see post-modernism as anything other than glorified shitposting promoted on an institutional level.

I think that there are good arguments to be made against positivism, but not by the likes of these

and to answer OP, 20. after taking a couple courses in women's studies.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogdanov_affair

that's a pretty funny example of how physicists can be guilty of nepotism, ignorance, etc. as much as anyone else. but the bogdanov's bullshit ramblings aren't regurgitated in any physics departments, whereas lacan, kristeva, irigaray et al are cited unironically by plenty of people

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Yeah, postmodernist literary critics and philosophers aren't scientists. They shouldn't have stepped into a field they know nothing about. But anyone with any reading in the area should know that Sokal took many of those quotes out of context, and that the quotes don't really reflect the main body of the ideas of those he took them from.

The whole thing is slightly dishonest, imo.

Humanities people are retards when they try to step into science and maths, yes. But that fact doesn't invalidate their humanities-relevant arguments. If the scientific work of scientists were invalidated every time a scientist made an ignorant, overly-simplistic and arrogantly authoritative foray into the fields of society and culture, then there would be a lot less quality science.

>Societies that believed in God weren't totalitarian
I can't believe he actually posts this stupid shit.
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is his post not correct?

memes aside, it was plastic surgery right?

At what age did you grow out of growing and ascend into pure being?

it's correct about being incorrect

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yo dogs this stuff you are talking about that's quite hilarious buthave i told you this story about my dog who jumped always left and then right and ten left again and inbetween he would not stop but rather run down a slope and then fall down a ridge and die and the corpse would be eaten by fleies who found it delicious and if those flies crawl under your shirt they are so clever and simply superbly sneaky that you nee dto adress and take a shower in Auschwitz to get rid of them and those flies ate my dog and when they were full they took a siesta to digress the food properly and there were reflections on th estate of their individual satisfaction and generally the consensus was that the meal had ben very fine and that my dead dog had absolutely oh yes agreeable meat to eat from and they announced to each other that they would send their clans to also feast upon the dead beast and they bragged about descending from such and such fly and how barvely their ancesthors hard fought and it was quite fine and respectfully executed and the flies felt well when the talk had subseeded and one for one they fell into sleep and had sweet dreams and their tummies warm and full and with a good feeling for their families would not feel hunger but rather be full as they were and be proud of the flies who had slain the beast and their names would be known and praised and some of the flies were dreaming of how such attained glory would make them desirable in the eyes of flies with vaginas and how they would stand with proud breasts standing out and masculine stares but also great happyness inside and the females being all tingly aside to have found a man who had proven himself and was capable of not only sustaining himself manly but even attaining glory through brave deeds and impress the swarm and so they were very fond of their males and were good wifes for it had been taught to them how to please male flies and the male flies knew that they were demanded to continue being brave and productive and never weak for such manly flies were indeed admired and demanded the respect of all flies and perhaps they would be swarm leaders at some point which was a great honour and many flies had dreamt of this all of their day but only few would achieve it and this stirred rivalvries as it is known that ambition stirs rivalvries and often may lead to bloodshed for indeed flies are animals with wild energy and a desire to assert themself upon the world, though not all of them for some flies desire perhaps to wear a moustache and guard their family and enjoy the sun reflecting walmly on their chitinbody and being caressed by waves of light and the soft but sometimes not so soft wind and eating the dung of wild forest animals but also domesticated beasts of man or dead man if such a splendid find has been made or perhaps just crawl across some stones or trees or maybe steal some honey from unsuspecting humans but this was reserved for the moustache wearing flies with courage in

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the grand nigger Mazalu from Africa once told me that postmodernism was a fashion and not a thought and that now the true thinkers were fashinable again and they were white supremacists and nationalists. It was clear that the world needed narratives so that i need not hink of a narrrative myself or rather define and inspect the stream i was moving in but rather taking some description of what the name of this stream was and that it had such and such qualities and that one had to be this or that way in this stream but that it was fasionable was surpising for if one really put enough efffort in it was easy to find out that this streams quality were really quite indefinable and that in many ways i was quit elost in such a stream and even stream was just an euphemism for what really went on but if you had put in effort you will know said the Nigger of Africa to me and i sat down on the dust surrounded by trees with blue colours moving up a hill which was steep and reeked of prey that we would hunt sooon but i first adressed the Nigger of Africa and told him that it didn't really matter yes or no and perhaps the stream was a stream and perhaps it was chaos or perhaps it was kosmos and we didn't see it and what did it truly mattter and i felt satisfied that i really didn't care fo r it gave me some insight on my future self and how i would sit with an indifferent face on a porch and smoke a cigarrette and drink whiskey in the morning and while it was not healthy i wasn't doing it obsessivively and generally i would be indifferent to live and not quite investedbut also not deadened or dull but take the absurdities and pleasures and pains of life as they came, not stoically either, for their is great delight in finding oneself truly moved and shaken and excited and laughing like a madman or hammering on one'sbed for too much pain intruding without my permission but all of this with a certain ornic indifference toward it happening for i thought tomyself while sitting there:"what does it matter really." but The Nigger of Africa shook his head hit me with a stick. He wore a Toga he had imported from Ancient Rome and looked wise. i smiled and said: Don't do that old man. But i meant it as a joke. The Nigger of Africa smiled and said: B'wana Kimbo. B'wana mbegi gomenasai. and i bowed and said: Arigato gosamainas. and he walked off to fetch us some fish to eat and now i realized he was scolding me for having forgotten our lunch boxes and the hotel and i shivered because it was colder than expected. I had come naked to Afrika for i saw images of naked Niggers in some books about Africa and it was always very hot in these images and since they had such bad skin burn that they literally evolved into niggers i though the right course of action was to come naked but actually in the mornings it was quite cold and dew had formed on my hair. In my quest to get it a good riddance i ran screaming down a valley until a kude bull came up to me and licked the dew off and

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fair enough. and to be honest i would say that the whole "citing research you don't haven't actually read or worse don't understand" occurs in experimental psychology, and i assume other sciences, often enough that many scientists' practice of science essentially consists of memeing, with slight updates at each iteration.

jordan peterson is like common sense on hyperdrive paired with whatever was popular to hate at the time

Jordan Peterson once walked down a street with a jew and they were discussing eagerly topics of great importance. i Saw it with quite surprised and made a noise of squeek as i saw it happening. You must know that Jordan Peterson is an idol of mine. Fuck the haters FUCK THEM AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Jordan Peterson simply gets it. And that is what the intellectuals on this board can not understand. While they masturbate to giantess porn and read some Foucault and clever books on Art in their free time inm in touch with the people. I was involved in the /pol/ gamergate movement, i Am Legion, i stopped Anita Sarkeesian from #BeingWithHer, i trolled 47 twittter users and am an creator of Fake news whom i spread to 13 media outlets as to cause change and in the end revolution and as i am so involved in the Timegeist and the change and the people i can tell you that there is one thing that you don't get. You look at CFNM Pictures of Nietzsche and feel smart and say "ANus Fati" this and that and talk about constructivism and how nature is a hoax and so on but Pee, as i call him, my great mentor Pee or Jay Pee may not even be smart to ocmpete but what he gotis that he understands what is happening and that he can articulate it and that he can articulate what a large mass of people can feel and he can contextualze it and give it a theoretical background and while it may not be up to par with Infinite Jest (the best novel in the world) it is important and relevant and all that you really express in yourcondescending snobbery is that you do not understand what is occuring and that you are blind to the symbolic significance of Pee. And because you did that you will be punished. I will learn military logistics and geurilla tactics and learn how to shoot a rifle at a shooting range. I will tran my body in 10000 ways and learn 3 fighting techniques: Kendo, Kong Fu and Krafmagahr and i will take singin glessons both in classical and jazz/pop. I will listen to Fela Kuti while working out and preparing for some serious true action. And when the time comes i will be there. I will be gakwed at be assured of that and you will be punished. Let this be known to all those wo indecisive. I will walk out of my ouse and take a taxi and drive to yourhomes and point my gun at your iwndo and scream: get out of there, you ignorant postmodernist." and you will walk out with your frail bodies overreacting at the coldness in the morning (as a trained soldier i will find no problem in such a situation and instead my testicles will swell from the coldness outside for in such a sharp climate can i only truly express my animalistic and superior masculinity) and because you are so frail and it's cold you will pee in your piyamas and me and my buddies from the guerilla will laugh at your and then execute you with no mercy in our hearts but also no mercy given for our guerilla is keeping it real and acts in accordance with its hearts and when you will be executed with the ammunition of

People traditionally classified as part of postmodernism are typically boring losers though. Metafaggotry is just plain old faggotry, and modernism is one slave revolt against the west.

what's academia grown into now in the uk?

good post

>be Jordan Memerson
>want to make a lot of $$$ and gain notoriety quickly
>perform the brave, heroic act of refusing to use someone's gender pronouns
>get worshiped as a hero by autists on the internet for whining about a letter he received from the school's faculty
>never receive any actual death threats, never have his life threatened, never get actually censored, never get imprisoned, never even get fired from his job
>simply whining about gender pronouns and being a professor of psychology is enough to be labelled a martyr for free speech by gullible anti-SJWs on the internet who desperately want an authority figure to affirm their whining
>whine about postmodernism and the cultural marxist boogeyman, even though postmodernism is a massive, broad subject never cite any actual literature or works or books by postmodernist authors or the Frankfurts, just say "they're all dumb guys trust me" like a true academic while occasionally namedropping Foucault or Derrida without actually addressing any of their arguments
>give the anti-SJWs you conned an imaginary enemy to blame all their problems on, while posing yourself as a hero when you've done jack shit and ironically whine about virtue signalling in academia while proposing no atual solutions to the postmodernist boogeyman
>fearmonger about a Canadian bill that you didn't even bother reading that was just a slight modification of a previous human rights bill that has already been in effect for decades, only it added "gender identity" to the list of criteria that you can't discriminate someone for
>make 65k US dollars a month on Patreon from gullible morons who think you're brilliant for making glorified vlogs that spout Jungian purple prose, whine about children's movies being feminist propaganda and make vague, whiny criticisms of postmodernism that isn't backed by any actual evidence
How does it feel to worship the Anita Sarkeesian of anti-SJWs?

I never grew into it.

>You look at CFNM Pictures of Nietzsche and feel smart and say "ANus Fati" this and that and talk about constructivism and how nature is a hoax and so on but Pee, as i call him, my great mentor Pee or Jay Pee may not even be smart to ocmpete but what he gotis that he understands what is happening and that he can articulate it and that he can articulate what a large mass of people can feel and he can contextualze it and give it a theoretical background and while it may not be up to par with Infinite Jest (the best novel in the world) it is important and relevant and all that you really express in yourcondescending snobbery is that you do not understand what is occuring and that you are blind to the symbolic significance of Pee.

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straight out of Gaddis or Bernhard
that's a genuine perfect imitation of a rambling lunatic

you may genuinely have writing potential

Jordan Peterson is
a hack

Butthurt Canadian detected.

>fair enough.
If you spent more time reading instead of taking this anons word for it, you'd realize that Sokal wasn't "BTFOing post-modernism by taking quotes out of context", he was criticizing their abuses of scientific terminology to sound more erudite in mathematics and physics. These writers would take scientific terms and claim to be using them in that way and be completely wrong or asserting something in psychology is not only analogous but identical to a certain mathematical object and refuse to elaborate on how they could possibly be related. It's not out of context when the original author refuses to give any context.
It seems like almost none of the critics actually read the introduction where he goes into great detail about what he is actually doing in the book and just screech at him about how he is doing scientism when Sokal agrees with post-modernists more than the critics would let you think.
It's pathetic.

@conception desu

Single moms lack the charisma and reason to make it seem worthwhile. Why do you think blacks (esp. men) do so poorly in schools and society in general? It is a trait that is extending to 'white trash'- for the same reason, I wager.

>never get actually censored
Youtube removed his account once.

>men require father figures in a society of extreme fatherlessness

Wow, colour me surprised. Whoever made that comic is a pansy faggot

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That's because he's not approaching postmodern literature you absolute fuckwit.
It means different things when applied to different areas of thought. Imagine that.

>Single moms lack the charisma and reason to make it seem worthwhile
So your mother needs to have charisma and reason to tell you to get off your ass and clean your room?

Youtube removes tons of account daily because it's a shitty, buggy website run by bots. The fact that he got his account back at all, especially when tons of smaller channels don't, proves that it meant jack shit.

Sure, I just send my hard earned cash to those jewish molesters at chapo trap house because i'm a sophisticated leftist, I'm too good for Peterson

The true origins of 'the postmodern condition' lie with the Bomb(humanity's limit experience), cybernetics, applied mathematics and wartime think tanks like the Rand corporation. If anything, the left bank hacks were far too burdened by centuries of continental baggage to really understand the modern world.

From a purely moral standpoint you're right, moral relativism is unacceptable. Everyone who took even a single course in philosophy knows this, as every professor ever will ram that into their students throat at first opportunity.

But multiculturalism does not entail moral relativism, multiculturalism is perfectly compatible with the boring kind of political liberalism we see in western democracies. Morality is not even that relevant for the kind of state-level politics you're talking about. Liberal society needs justice and a strong set of rights, but it cannot impose a thick and detailed moral conception of the good on it's citizen, you get totalitarianism.

t. Jealous genderqueerist.

liberal society is dead, it has been rendered obsolete by rapidly shifting economic and technological conditions. 'multiculturalism' as a system of governance cannot help but impose 'a thick and detailed moral conception of the good on citizens', that is, liberalism taken beyond the subject. 'identities' are objects to be constructed, instruments of governance and control. The cyberpanopticon is inherently totalitarian, if you want to escape totalitarianism you gotta go off the grid, there's no other way.