Does an inability to control desires really absolve the human species of any wrong...

Does an inability to control desires really absolve the human species of any wrong, or is it just a prelude to freedom of choice? I can decide whether I want to go and eat or not, and I can force myself to starve to death if I will it.

Suicide is probably the greatest example of the self triumphing over base desires.

If human beings are strong enough to rip themselves from existence, does that mean the self is strong enough to deal with most if not all desires?

I feel like, practically, hard determinism is an impossibility as to really touch it is beyond human capacity. It'd be like knowing non-existence.

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>inability to control desires
>implying this exists

>an inability to control desires

this is one of the higher aspects that define being human...

It defines humans, but it doesn't DEFINE humans.

There's more to it than that.

A thought that I really liked was Will to Power.

It makes more sense in reality than baseline "Life likes to exist and procreate" because it encompasses the entirety of human behavior.

>Does an inability to control desires really absolve the human species of any wrong

No it doesn't, because humans can control their desires, they just don't want to or lack the discipline to do so.

>Suicide is probably the greatest example of the self triumphing over base desires.
Consider this: you are being tortured and are in excruciating pain with no way out. organs and limbs being slowly removed etc. your torturer then gives you a pill that will instantly kill you if swallowed.
i'm not sure the decision to swallow the pill is in this case an example of the self triumphing over base desires.
this is an absurd scenario but explain to be how even in more ordinary cases, suicide isn't simply motivated by the desire to stop suffering (avoiding suffering itself might be thought of as a base desire)

>It defines humans, but it doesn't DEFINE humans.

fucks sake

>Humans can control their desires

I can't really agree with this thought.
True desire is something that strikes me randomly and without warning.

It feels as if you're blind to yourself, but that sounds like a silly idea, so I'm curious to know more about this.

There are parts of human beings that don't buckle to pain

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srs question: does a dog have the ability to control its desire? what about a snail?
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