Is there a more reductionist and retarded thinker than him?

He gets a lot of things right but he has this remarkably autistic desire to cram things into either being 'left' or 'right' and is always attacking 'centrism' as though it is even something that exists.

Take his new article for example:

hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2017/10/how-left-wing-were-the-national-socialists-.html

>What does all this mean? Does it mean that Nazis and Communists were the same, or that the Left has no real differences form the right? No, I wouldn’t offer anything so crude.

>But it does seem to me to show that these idealist post-Christian movements, based upon leader-worship, power-worship and Utopian communities (whose solidarity depends on the deaths and/or expropriations of others) have quite a bit in common with each other despite the great differences which generally divide them. By contrast, they have virtually no point of contact with classical conservatism, liberalism or old-fashioned social democracy. If we are to understand them, and if we are to try to avoid repeating their disasters, we must learn to grasp this.

He's such a fucking moron. He doesn't seem to realise the paganistic aspect of Nazism or any esoteric ideas or even the fight against Modernity that it emboldened. He's constantly trying to show-horn things into being extremely left-wing which is incredibly grating when it comes to complex topics like this.

Does every Anglo possess this retarded reductionist state of mind?

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newcriterion.com/issues/2013/10/the-anglosphere-miracle
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Did he BTFO you on Twitter or something?

Anyone know what he means when he says drug addiction doesn't exist? Surely he can't be that retarded.

Peter Hitchens is based aside from this one view of his. He is totally wrong about drugs and I'm saying that as a hard boiled paleo-conservative that hates everything modern just like him.

>He is totally wrong about drugs and I'm saying that as a hard boiled paleo-conservative that hates everything modern just like him.

You're just as retarded as him then lol.

>Did he BTFO you on Twitter or something?

No, I simply recognise that he's a retard that always sees things in terms of left and right and applying such ideas to Nazism and Fascism is completely retarded and misunderstands completely what those movements were about.

He's so incredibly ugly

You say "this one view" as if it isn't an all-consuming monomania and every second article isn't about mind-altering, wicked substances stupefying people. It's like saying you agree with George Washington except for the minor issue of not believing the United States should have independence.

>I'm saying that as a hard boiled paleo-conservative that hates everything modern just like him.
nvm you're retarded

I think Peter Hitchens probably does recognise fascism and National Socialism are bizarrely and uniquely radically progressive and radically reactionary at the same time. Much of the intent behind his articles seems to be to address perceived imbalance --which is why so many of his opinions are presented in a stark, incendiary and controversial manner. Fascism and National Socialism are commonly presented as right wing ideologies, and that's as reductionist as presenting them as left wing, but at least saying they are left wing, although that's an exaggeration, opens up the argument which makes people realise no, in fact, they're both.

He's actually 6/10 for an Anglo.

>He doesn't seem to realise the paganistic aspect of Nazism or any esoteric ideas or even the fight against Modernity that it emboldened. He's constantly trying to show-horn things into being extremely left-wing which is incredibly grating when it comes to complex topics like this.
Wouldn't say this exactly. He's not entirely wrong to point out that the "paganistic"/"esoteric" Idealist aspects of Nazism are from a modernist tradition which overall has more leftist adherents than "traditionalist" or otherwise "anti-modernity".
There's plenty of other "reductionist" takes available, this one is barely "reductionist".

the only people retarded itt are you and other moron(s) that believe that drug addiction is real

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I actually find his political commentary spot-on most of the time but I find his advocating for the old Church of England to be a lost cause, at least from the perspective of a Catholic Anglo-American who has lived in England for a year.

That second paragraph of green text is a brilliant summation of all post-French Revolution secular movements. He's completely right that they have virtually nothing in common with "conservatism, liberalism, or old-fashioned social democracy." Instead, they all have much more in common with each other.

I don't know how familiar you are with the French and Russian Revolutions, but it is remarkable how similar the biggest personalities are.

>Rousseau
>Marx

>Napoleon (Girondin)
>Trotsky (Permanent Revolution)

>Robespierre (Jacobin)
>Stalin (Socialism in One Country)

In both cases, there was also radical secularism, massive killings, destruction of tradition, etc. Stendhal was correct in his assessment that Russians always follow France in everything that they do except decades later.

Anyway, feel free to write my opinion off as coming from another Anglo-American with a "retarded reductionist state of mind." The English had already experienced this phenomenon long before the Frogs and Tovarishes with Henry VIII's destruction of the Church and in the following years with greater power being accorded to the head of state and parliament. The worst culmination of it was the English Civil War. The American Revolution was basically a reaction against this cancerous ideology, an attempt to create a government that "just werks" (as our /g/ friends would say) without meddling too much in the spheres of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

If you would prefer to read a fuller account on why these problems are uncommon in perfidious Albion and her former countries, check this article here: newcriterion.com/issues/2013/10/the-anglosphere-miracle

Although it appears to be behind a paywall. Oh well.

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Name one author more able to properly diagnose and describe the last century of social decay in England. He's not perfect, his reluctance to blame Islam for what it has done instead blaming drugs for one example, but overall, if you actually take the time to read his books perhaps you'll see him in a better light.

He used to be worth reading, nowadays it's all just self-indulgent whining and playing up to his 'le blaeckpille curmudgeon' image. Eventually turning into a cartoon version of one's self seems to run into the family.

You too would turn into a cartoon version of yourself if you see yourself being proved right again and again and again.

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>the paganistic aspect of Nazism or any esoteric ideas
>he thinks aesthetical larping and ariosophic fanfiction had any impact or presence in mainstream NSDAP politics

I agree with him on drugs and immigration, but I'm still a bit of a Trotskyist in other respects, so I'm obliged to deem him a class enemy.

He would look pretty alpha if he didn't have a recessed chin. Look at Chris who wasn't a chinlet. Nice strong jaws on both of them but Peter must have been a mouth breather as a kid.

Peter is flawed, and ultimately a journalist -- not an intellectual as so many people like to peg him. However I think he's good to have around even if he gets autistic about certain things

This is what you get for reading *nglos.

The wrong brother died.

>Reductionist
>Always puts things into left and right
>Rails against centrism
> "left and right in modern terms are useless, because their underlying structures are the same regardless of motive or conceit."
This is a board for literature. No crayons allowed. Now git.

>>Rousseau
>>Marx
how are they related?

>Ultimately a journalist
Didn't stop Marx. Or the other Hitchens for that matter. Or Hemingway.

They are both disgustingly idealizing revolution and the lack of civilization and history. The ideal man in both cases would be a cannibal with barely any morals.

You are a good person

His merit, like almost any public intellectual in our times, lies solely in providing a bit of a counter-pole to the centre-left Zeitgeister who swarm politics like fruitflies.

HAVE A CARE, HITCHENS

le based socialist-atheistic man amirite ;o)

>I'm obliged to deem him a class enemy
I don't wanna bring up the human nature argument, but...

Humans have organised themselves into class structures since time immemorial. What makes you think that the scrawlings and the rantings of early 20th century Russian revolutionaries, driven by resentment and envy, can change this? Even they couldn't do it in the ~70 years that their brutal regime existed.

When you level off everyone so as to make them more equal, you diminish the potential for individual heroism and glory. They all just coalesce into one starving mass of misery.

>inb4 smug reply calling human nature a "spook" without actually refuting it

Communism isnt about equality, in fact the true inequalities between people would be made much more apparent when everybody has the means to express their own powers.Capitalism has made classless society unnecessary. Read Marx you dimwit

>driven by resentment and envy
"children shouldn't have to work in factories!"
"ah, the politics of RESENTMENT and ENVY. run along, you idealistic fool, and do not bother me with this idealistic nonsense. we all know your true wish is to get your grubby little hand son other people's money. toodle-oo!"

>"children shouldn't have to work in factories!"
Riiiiight, because that was the ONLY driving factor of the Russian revolution. Trotsky and his ilk wrote long diatribes about their sadistic desires to punish the bourgeoisie.

>Riiiiight, because that was the ONLY driving factor of the Russian revolution.
nah, I saw his talk of resentment and envy as a general criticism of left-wing politics (because I've seen such opinions a million times), so I replied in that spirit, not specifically about the Russian Revolution

>Anyone know what he means when he says drug addiction doesn't exist?
Yes because he's fucking right, "addiction" is a philosophical strand point that negates personal responsibility, demotes willpower and gives the user the endless excuse that "addiction" physically makes him take shit when it's a fucking choice. As someone who is very strict on his diet i desire chocolate cake but i override it with logic and CHOOSE to not touch it as i understand the long term, desire does not equate to action without choosing to persevere it. In todays society health "experts" love to push everyone into believing they are a fucking victim of everything as it forces them into greater dependency on the medical industries which means more money for them. You're the actual retard as it happens.

>Name one author more able to properly diagnose and describe the last century of social decay in England.
This, everyone should read the abolition of Britain.

>He doesn't realise that Himmler was acting upon the Left Hand path

He's crazy. He claims things like Dyslexia doesn't exist, ADHD doesn't exist, addiction in any form whatsoever doesn't exist.

the universe took the wrong brother

hitchens only makes sense when you realize he's a jew trying to larp as a reactionary fuddy-duddy. all of his opinions are chosen based on what will make him look the most out of touch.

Marx was for child labour you spaz. He thought the experience was vital.

plz ban all namefags

>ADHD
Doesn't exist, mainly an excuse for stupid/lazy people with no discipline, also people who grew up with instant gratification in the form of videogames and youtube videos.

>Dyslexia
Don't know about this one but probably also an excuse by people who can't be bothered to read or are just unable to.

>Addiction
Didn't agree with Peter on this one until I read more about what he had to say and I'm pretty sure he understands a person can be chemically drawn to a substance but he is discontent with the word "Addiction" since it implies a "need", which isn't the case.

Meanwhile he hadn't done a day of manual labor in his life himself.

Nice youtube comment tier post, user.

To add to ADHD, it's a very convenient excuse to prescribe mind altering medication to male kids with healthy levels of testosterone

>Marx was for child labour you spaz. He thought the experience was vital.

>Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form.

it's almost like if you play with words enough (and if your audience is as dumb as you hope they are) you can make them mean whatever you want

the quote is from the manifesto btw