Why are reddit's philosophy boards so terrible?

Sam Harris is literally a walking subreddit

I find it funny how r/philosophy redditors love it when there's some article saying that "teaching children philosophy will learn them to be critical and improves [...]". It always gets upboated like crazy.

yeah, that's my point

>implying
Reddit is good for a lot of things in spite of what reeeing tribal teenagers say here, but when it comes to arts and humanities with the exception of history it's an absolute hellhole.

This. Pretty sure OP is just mad that they downvote his posts about Jewish conspiracies.

Holy fuck where did this mentality start from? Did you ever go on Facebook or Instagram to see uninteresting people? Reddit is fine beyond the 10 most populated subreddits (and even there it's better to discuss news than any other popular site).

askhistory is good

r/askphilosophy is shit
r/"philosophy" is retarded sam harris tier stuff
and im not going to even mention r/badphilosophy

>All these redditors
GET OUT OF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEE

badphilosophy would be tolerable if the same shit didn't get posted over and over.

The whole point on browsing this board is either for
>that occasional enlightening post
>that occasional hilarious brilliantly written post
>a lot of contrarian opinions that can help you formulate better ideas on things

If you come to Veeky Forums (or the internet in general for that matter) for consistent quality discussion you're obviously going to be disappointed

you need to go back

that and other dumb autodidacts/1st years who dont know wtf theyre talking about yet judge anyone that disagrees with their political/religious opinions

>lesswrong
What's wrong with that?

>a lot of contrarian opinions that can help you formulate better ideas on things
Yeah dude, go start a thread about Marx or even someone like Martin Luther King and watch how the people flock to it to formulate better ideas on things.

I fucking hate this and how every fucking group in the entire world does it. And out of every group """""philosophers""""" should be able distinguish between self interest and normative judgements

Philosophers: More philosophy in school
Nerds: programming from first grade and also vidya games for """problem sovling"""
builder: kids these days don't know how to work a hammer and also why do they even teach math i don't use any of that in my """"real world job""""
theist: muh tradition and btw less of those other religions in school
economist: we need to teach kids how to manage their personal economy
mongolian ivory carver: we're losing track of our strong mongolian ivory carving tradition and it should be taught in school

>he complains about quality on Veeky Forums
like I said, the only reason to come here is for the occasional insight it will offer, if you don't know what I'm referring to it's either because you don't browse enough or you don't notice it

surrounding yourself with shit aren't going to help you in any way whatsoever, it's bad for you and you will slowly but steadily become shit yourself

>implying secondary education can't or shouldn't be improved in a number of ways
>straw manning actually useful skills like handiwork and personal finance with ivory carving
Brainletism par excellence.

then why are you here

I was gonna post this, I completely agree. Every single subject seems to be the most important and critical in a child's education now.

Reddit is fine if you want to look for specific stuff that doesn't involve discussion because when it comes to discussing things there, it's a hivemind cesspool. There are many good arguments that get downvoted because most of those redditors don't agree. How is that a good discussion? If anything, Reddit is the worst possible platform to discuss anything because of the the upvote/downvoted system.

honestly i don't know why I keep coming back. I've been posting here for ten years on and off even though I know it's bad for me.

>teaching underage brainlets works that they'll either invariably hate or misunderstand

yeah great way to promote critical thinking buddy

Off topic but how did this mascot become a meme here? Is it because he looks like Ignatius?

Because 1 guy won't stop posting him and that 1 guy also happens to make a lot of low quality threads

You could try r/slatestarcodex, it's LW-lite minus a lot of the autism.

r/philosophy is terrible, as all default subs are
r/badphilosophy is also terrible, since unlike the other (mostly good) badX subs they don't require any explanation of why the post is wrong so it devolves into circlejerks and argument by assertion.
r/askphilosophy is OK because although they are sometimes wrong they at least explain their arguments.

Redditors leave now

Are you lost?

>r/askhistorians
>most of them don't even have a bachelor's degree

They're also very pompous and humorless. Reddit in a nutshell.

it's just rationalists, when that level of discourse has already been transcended
it's a baby-step though

Is Veeky Forums the new reddit?

Anyone who admits to using Reddit should be permabanned. Put the trash down the chute.

>implying
If you started with the Greeks in school, maybe you wouldn't have to resort to strawmanning to win argument on Bangladeshi pearl-diving BBS.

>most of them don't even have a bachelor's degree
>They're also very pompous and humorless.

This is literally not way to get Nietasche right though. He wrote against this exact thing, the need to "get it".

>>a lot of contrarian opinions that can help you formulate better ideas on things

This is the real reason Veeky Forums is better than Reddit, regardless of education or on-topic discussion.

Martin Luther King was not a writer, so why would we have a thread on him? The dude plagiarized his doctoral dissertation, he wasn't exactly an intellectual powerhouse.

>tfw the plebs on the education board still haven't recognized that it's all about music and gymnastics

Why are you even here? Go back to /r/communism or wherever it is you came from. You’re the reason we can’t have any good threads on Veeky Forums.
>inb4 muh /pol/ reeeeeee

>why are using this website if you also use another website
Woah. Calm down with the hard hitting questions. My almonds can only get this activated.

thephilosophyforum.com

has some intelligent people

>t.Redditor

...

r/academicphilosophy, obviously.

They have an analytic-bent but you are certainly better off there than discussing philosophy here.

>the butthurt anglo is at it again

>reddit spacing

false

flag

ging

Been there and don't know if being ironic is part of it (insert some illogical non-philosophical opinon, upboats to the right). Terrible because of most of the comments.

>he knows what reddit is

it's just another website bro

>where you can't voice an incorrect opinion
>where you can get banned in one section of the site for participating in another
>where your posts are valued on identity and not merit
>where pun-level wit and one liners are praised as the second coming of christ
>where complete retards circlejerk around recycled content from the rest of the internet
>where, everything is just subjective bro, and like, your opinion is just as correct as mine, man
>where no original content is created
>where original content goes to die

>all the insecure morons proving his point
kek

You sound like a retarded teenager who got banned from some default politics subreddit for niggerposting or calling someone a kike and now found le based frog site with muh freedom of speech to cry about it. As already stated Reddit is shit for humanities and purely opinion-driven discussion, but it has plenty of useful topical information on non-fee-fee subjects. Engaging in irrational black/white web-tribalism is just idiotic on every level. Not being so new you think Veeky Forums is some kind of meritocratic intellectual heaven filled with knowledge is a cardinal sin. Now fuck off, underage tard.

not him

but it's annoying when I get downvoted to hell when arguing with rickandmortyites who get all their information from youtube channels like the school of life and kurzgesagt. Their simplistic/retarded/wrong brainlet views on things get upvoted while my big brain knowledge gets downvoted. It's a pretty shit place for learning and discussion desu

ycombinator?

Anyone who's been on Veeky Forums long enough has excellent reasons to hate Reddit. They dump all their trash here (most recently the slime from r/The_Donald) and, as notes, they create no worthwhile original content. In a dream world I'd buy Reddit purely to shut it down and rid the internet of it forever. It would be money well spent.

>Anyone who's been on Veeky Forums long enough has excellent reasons to hate Reddit.
Kek, no. The only reason to actually *hate* Reddit is if you're an autistic socially reclusive retard who lives and breathes the Internet to the point that you identify and define yourself through websites you use. As already stated it's quite good when it comes to factual topics like science, tech or to some degree history (and no, I don't mean /r/futurology and other preteen sections). Particularly compared to burning garbage dumps like /g/ with three and a half sane posters dispersed among five generals or Veeky Forums which is nowadays freshman homework and pseudoscience central with 0.99(9) competent contributors or Veeky Forums which is really just /pol/ with more maps and Paradox games. Not to mention that once your honeymoon newfriend period ends you will discover that cookie-cutter edgy memetexts, autistic contrarianism and hiding behind ten layers of irony for fear of not getting enough (You)votes are really not any more interesting than shitty pun chains or opinion circlejerking or karmawhoring. Both sites have different strengths and again to care about tribal web-allegiances instead of what little value can be extracted from both is just phenomenal cretinism. Use the fucking info they provide instead of substituting social life with them, brainlet.

>As already stated it's quite good when it comes to factual topics like science, tech or to some degree history

it seems that way if you don't know much about these topics

if you do, reddit is infuriating to read

Well, I'm currently writing a grad thesis on ergodic theory if my unsubstantiated words count for anything. But maybe I'm just not on the level of local titans of thought to be infuriated with le stupid raydditors.

maybe you're just too new in every sense

/g/ is literally the next worst board after /pol/, not counting anime and porn

I don't go on /g/

But reading the shit that gets upvoted on eli5, til, r/philosophy and askreddit makes me want to kill myself

You probably don't go on reddit enough

Its good for a quick browse now and again

At least this place is self conscious

>my super autist reddit that no one cares about is less retarded than most because no one gives a shit and most people don't even know the name
well excuse us for not wanting to only ever discuss a tiny niche of a tiny niche of a field. FYI as a generalist in computer science and more of a specialist in AI and cybersecurity, I see blatant misinformation pushed as fact all the time on reddit. Mine is literally a binary field and those fucks still get it wrong. And the correct information gets buried in flurries of downvotes by circlejerking longstanding members of the community. Trash site, even for maths. I wouldn't touch it with a ten meter pole when it comes to soft fields like psychology.

>/g/ is the next worst after /pol/
>/v/
>/tv/
>/b/
>/bant/
>/int/
>Veeky Forums
>/mu/
>/news/
>/s4s/
>/r9k/
>all exist
you don't even know which of those is the actual worst board do you? I'll give you a hint - it's not the one that bleeds over the most.

>he doesn't go on /g/
>he doesn't go on tech subreddits
>offers his invaluable opinion on the topic
great stuff, faggot
>eli5, til, askreddit
fuck me it's like eating from a sewage tank and complaining about the taste

I'm so glad my field (operation research) is too boring for redditors to care about

...

Veeky Forums is the actual answer.

Yes there is only one other person in this thread

Good job Mr math whiz

>generalist in computer science and more of a specialist in AI and cybersecurity
>t. wrote 5 python helloworlds, reinstalled 12 loonix flavors and configured nftables once
>also read the wiki on LSTM and Markov chains
hello, /g/

/v/ is the only one comparable to /g/, but they're also largely the same vidyatards
/news/ is just dead, the rest are fine

>replies in same style with same reddit spacing every post
>no mum it wasn't me it was that other guy who ran away already
ebyn

>reddit spacing
thats you tho

mother of all freudian projectors, where the fuck did i say anything positive about Veeky Forums in my post?

Since you're too retarded to understand a single thing, you dumbfuck redditor, let me spell it out for you

The values behind those that browse reddit are unbearably average, run-of the mill, unexamined and absolutely fucking cancerous. But you don't need to look further than the actual shitty site itself. Every other subplebbit is called Topic_porn. Every fucking thread just has a thousand hidden comments and one or two shitty puns. If there is a long and detailed post, its just factually incorrect and retarded. Even on this board, people now openly discuss genre fiction, the lotr movies, stephen king, and other absolute garbage which they didn't before reddit flooded this fucking place.

>b-but muh tribalism
have you ever considered that things you faggots post is the fucking problem? why doesn't anyone here give a fuck about facebook posters? or twitter posters?

Whats your opinion on the season finale of rick and morty?

>why doesn't anyone here give a fuck about facebook posters? or twitter posters?
because I report posts with hashtags in them

>where the fuck did i say anything positive about Veeky Forums
this contraposition is implicit in discussion at hand, brainlet
>now openly discuss genre fiction, the lotr movies, stephen king
>now
Veeky Forums literally started as a genrefic landfill with some very mild his/phil disco and stayed like this for a couple years, you insane newfaggot

>i'm in le smartypants program that means i know everything about stuff kek brainlets btfo

>this contraposition is implicit in discussion at hand, brainlet
not him but this is a really fucking stupid hill to die on, just admit you jumped to conclusions

>strawmanning this badly
Try harder, friend.

>haha brainlet used le logical fallacy kek
dude admit that there was no reason to bring that up other than trying to pose

>5 sentences to say "plebbit is bad mkay"
Woah... So this is the power of patrisheen intellectuals with above-average values.

>just say "plebbit is bad"
>ecks dee y u no give reasons?
>list out several specifics, write a short paragraph detailing exactly why it's bad
>ell oh ell u so patrician bro ironic bt(u*2)
there's no pleasing retards is there?

It's a load of standard schlock written out by milquetoast grad students. Nothing remotely creative or challenging. The standard response is the popular response. They worship science.

He questioned how competent I am on topic of science/tech, so I replied with qualifications. There's no reason to project your insecurities, user, this wasn't an attack on anyone.

if you reread what he (read: I) said, it's obviously a general statement, not asking about qualifications. A lot of stuff on reddit "seems" right until you learn more about it and it turns out to be retarded. Just because you're a grad student at some random directional university doesn't mean you know everything about the entirety of human knowledge, even in STEM.

>calling them names
>reasons
>strawmanning bottom-barrel shit non-content subs
>reasons
this last one is fucking ebyn:
>to determine how good or bad something is only look at the worst parts of it
>t. le enlightened intellectual

So many redditors ITT, I didn't fully believe it until now

>doesn't mean you know everything about the entirety of human knowledge, even in STEM
Seeing as you felt confident to make the opposite claim - you *are* in fact the carrier of entire human nowledge in STEM? I'm very honoured.

>at some random directional university
Also, sad you still can't let go of your insecurities, friendo.

>Seeing as you felt confident to make the opposite claim
literally where, brainlet?

Now this would require some olympic level mental gymnastics to deny. Looking forward to.

>implying I don't have a Fields Medal in Mathematics
Nice try, brainlet

ok *denies it*