Morality

>Can't help but feel that I'm an animal and capable of doing whatever I want to
>Look at people that have sex with their kids and think about how fundamentally horrific existence is
>Incredible, deep void left by absence of Christianity within my brain
>Looking to Confucian ideals to try and have some stability in my life
>Can't see it moral to bring more life into this existence due to temporal relief being mandatory, and suffering out weighs the pleasure of living itself in the modern world we live in
>Conflicted as to whether it's best to live like an animal, or if it's best to live a moral existence in an indifferent world
>Know that deep in my heart there is good in the form of altruism, but there is also evil brimming beneath the surface no matter what I do
>Telling my mother I love her just to try and be sure of something

I hate being a part of all of this, but I'm here, and I've no choice in the matter.

at least you feel like you have some kind of agency. i'm a fucking internet addict that can't tear myself away from reflexively F5ing this board long enough to do anything productive. i'm not driving this thing please kill me

Objectively, you have agency.
You're incapable of really touching what you are.

Either fuck off to the middle if nowhere and live a comfy life away from all people or become a revolutionary.

yes, this

now kill me

>fuck off to the middle of nowhere and life a comfy life away from all people
If only I could do this

What's stopping you?

Also what is it with all you people? Life is fucking suffering, so what? It's 2017, grab it by the pussy.

>blah blah boring platitudes
You may want to kill yourself

I wish I could, but I can't.

I'm not built to commit suicide, and even if I were to take drugs to over come that, I would do damage to the people I value in this world.

I'm just glad I don't have genetic depression, or I'd probably be out of here.

Quit porn for a month

Me too

It does help, but it's fucking hard when it's so common in your life that it's almost become an automatic muscle reaction.

>or become a revolutionary.
o shit is this an option

>Animal capable of doing whatever I want to
>chooses to solve a paranoia just for fun
>the game is too much fun he doesnt want to stop (or just fakes out that he doesnt know how to)
"Dont play games if u ar tired"
Stay awake for 48h with this or use drugs

>>Conflicted as to whether it's best to live like an animal, or if it's best to live a moral existence in an indifferent world

how is the world indifferent when it contains your own moral judgments?

I don't get why people have these spazzouts about morality?

just decide for yourself what you think is right and wrong lol? why trust anyone or anything else???

yall need to b more 4rrogant???

for me, I just decide my own moral values. I see myself as the source of moral facts in this world. if your moral views do not align with mine then you are wrong, moral statements get their facticity by either correlating with my judgment or not.

just have my attitude problem solved lol

your problem is being to weak to stake the source of morality on yourself.

nigga like half of all philosophy can be used to alleviate this shit. use it as therapy and balancing, as opposed to ultimate truth that you couldn't accept anyway due to other conclusions.

op why would you choose to go on Veeky Forums if you feel that way.

>>Can't help but feel that I'm an animal and capable of doing whatever I want to
Funny, the truth is the complete opposite. Animals can't do whatever they want to, they are determined by their instincts and have no free will. You're a human being and your free will rises you above animals. Of course, you're indeed capable of doing whatever you want to.

Animal = god

I agree with mostly all of this except I see no need for Christianity. What exactly is the problem here? You can still derive pleasure from living, yes? Go ahead, do so. Devise a plan that will maximize this pleasure for you and others (sharing it tends to increase it even further and is a "good" too.)

How do you become a revolutionary if you have no ideas or strong convictions of your own like OP's case?

Motherfucker read, think, decide what's the ultimate good and then act on it.

I don't see much of a difference between instinct and desire.

There's a self, but it's chained to random desires. I can see my dog and cat being the same as me.

This isn't a thread about freedom of choice though.

The ultimate good doesn't matter to me.
I just need to stray from the path of evil and get to the end.

I believe, if true free-will were real, I'd be able to commit suicide easily and without hesitation/regret like every Golden Gate Bridge jumper, but I can't, and life for the average human being doesn't work like that. The self can win, but only through the systematic alteration of uncontrollable desires.

I think that Randy Stair is a good example of forced suicide.

He doesn't have the genetics for depression, but he terminated himself by animating for a year and depriving his body and brain of all pleasure.

In the end, he shot himself, but it's probable the only thing that gave him the strength to do so was the fact that he had murdered 3 other people, and what was coming would be worse than death itself.

I can't decide that I want to want something. I can only deal with what I am.

I believe the self to be very powerful, but it doesn't supersede life itself, and it's my belief that man isn't above the animal kingdom.

The intelligence is there, but it's only there to serve survival.

You're beginning to wake up

I don't post often nor the material that I have read, but user you're beginning to wake up. Be careful

This is a very cryptic message.
It makes me feel like I should keep my thoughts to myself.

Now that my brain is clear, I can explain the real thought behind the word "animal"

When I say it, I mean that there's nothing that I'm or anyone else is to be, and I've total dominion over what will happen despite this.

When people say "Be Human", they don't know what they mean, and they're blind to the truth.

People that advocate for the spread of atheism don't know anything about themselves or other human beings.

It's a very simple thought that has nothing to do with free-will.