You know, as exaggerated as her characters are, as sketchy as her plots are, I like her books...

You know, as exaggerated as her characters are, as sketchy as her plots are, I like her books. Atlas Shrugged was a surprisingly satisfying read, and The Fountainhead is good as well. I like the heroic themes, the hymns to the human spirit and potential, the confutation of socialism, naturalism and all that bullshit.

But every time she describes the family as an oppressive, obsolete structure created by evil people to imprison women, or every time she creates female characters that jump from dick to dick because they're "modern & empowered", I feel like screaming in frustration.

How can you love so much everything our civilization has created, write veritable odes to skyscrapers, laws, medicines, trains and engineering, and then shit on the very CELL of that same civilization? How can she think that our civilization could've achieved its result without its most basic structure??

How can she be all like "Yeah, even without the family unit we would've still created everything we have now. In fact, we would've fared better"? How can she not realize this doesn't make any sense? That our civilization has historically constricted female sexuality and freedoms for lots of good fucking reasons (as we're seeing now that we've eliminated these constraints)?

Ultimately, Rand is the definitive confirmation that women are irrational, myopic, selfish creatures. Their desire for unlimited dick is so strong that they're willing to ignore even basic logic and their own ideology to get it. There truly is no hope for women. They can never be really logical. Our ancestors were right.

Are you even old enough to use this website? If yes, how long have you been here?

Fuck off, 20 year old pretentious male feminist. They will never touch your weiner. It doesn't matter how much you pander to them.

Who'd of thought lack of pussy was the THE precipitating factor for a nazi epidemic.

Oh look, /pol/ is leaking again

t. brainlets incapable of discussing ideas that need to meme against /pol/ or they don't know what to say.

>pointing out that every ancient society constrained women's behaviour for good reasons means being a nazi.
How much estrogen do you need to write posts like that?

But why does this surprise you?
She was clearly highly individualist. It only makes sense that she was against the nuclear family unit.
I don't know if I would go as far to say as she appreciated tradition but rather the modern product of what our tradition has achieved.
Just remember user, she was just another roastie. It's hardly her fault. You don't get angry at an untrained dog for barking at a cat sitting up on the fence out of his reach.

>"ideas" are being "discussed" in this thread
There isn't a single idea in the OP

>incapable of discussing ideas
Maybe anons would be more open to discuss shallow "ideas" of a butthurt cunt who missed out on aristocracy and threw a tantrum while living on welfare, if faggots like you didn't spam 1-2 threads daily without saying anything interesting. Why do you need validation? Go back to /pol/.

People who enjoy Ayn Rand are literally all virgin jerkoffs. No one is attracted to you, dipshit.

Rand isn't dissing the idea of the family. The Fountainhead ends with Roark and Dominique getting married and there are nuclear families in Galt's Gulch. You have to put her in the context of her time. I think her main points about family and marriage were
>It's okay for a couple to get a divorce if they hate each other and there's no real reason for them to stay together
>It's okay for a woman not to want kids
>It's okay to have sexual relationships outside of marriage (though she doesn't endorse casual hookups)
all of which would more or less go without saying these days.

incel general?

It surprises me because she idolizes western civilization and its results, and the nuclear family is crucial to those results, yet she doesn't seem to realize it.

She talks about self-sacrifice and abnegation to reach higher goals, but then is not willing to sacrifice her "freedom" to jump from dick to dick, even though without the nuclear family the fabric of western civilization obviously disgregates.

>I'm too fucking stupid to understand an idea even when clearly explained.

Don't you have a dildo to sit on while you sip your soy/cum frappuccino?

Roastie detected.

(Hundreds of really rich businessmen love Rand's works. But I'm sure they're virgin jerkoffs too.)

You soyboys must really love the idea of settling for a "reformed" slut with a triple digits cock count when you finally decide to get married, if merely criticizing hookup culture is enough to trigger you this much.

virgin rage thread

Maybe you're right, but I didn't like the easiness with which Dagny has sex with basically all the cool guys in the book one after another, constantly trading up (and then they all forgive her for dumping them without holding a grudge, basically a roastie's dream).

And Dominique is using her pussy like a passepartout. And she's also constantly trading up.

There is clearly some personal fantasy fulfillment here going on.

Wow im sorry for my earlier posts. this was obviously a bait thread.. you got me. This was all one person right?

More like "adult male thread about Rand's (and females in general) inability to sacrifice their lust for higher goals even when they worship those goals".

But keep roleplaying as the cool guy on a bangladeshi dildo-shaping forum.

If you don't have anything to contribute, why don't you go sip cum somewhere else, little shit? Nobody thinks you're cool or hip here.

So this is the discussion you had in mind, thanks for making the thread, user! Slit your wrists and eat the knife, maggot. Make sure to do that in front of your crack-whore mother, maybe she'll think twice before getting dicked next time.

wait a tick, I thought she hated self sacrifice?

Oh no, the soyboy little shithead got triggered because someone on the internet realized he's a stupid little squirt of diarrhea.+

Poor little faggot, do you want to suckle on my dick?

No thanks I prefer my men to be masculine

She hates fake altruism because she understands that's just the way parasites try to trick you into giving them stuff they didn't earn, but she admires people who work like madmen to build something bigger than themselves.

I had no doubt.

No why don't you bring your cum-guzzling retardation somewhere else? In traffic, maybe?

Nice post, lacks some buzzwords though. I know this'd get you lots of upvotes on /r/t_D but here we have higher standards.

Why would I bring it to you in traffic if I just said I don't like little twinks? You should brush up on your grammar.

This obsession with cum seems a bit unhealthy. Is mom shitting sperm on your sheets after she's done with the dicking? Or did you spend quality time with dad lately.

I don't know how it works on reddit because I'm not a faggot, but I'm sure you could write a phd thesis about it. And cum guzzling.

Hahaha, sure you don't.

You should learn to read. Or maybe drown in diarrhea and liberate the world from yet another worthless, talentless little shit that will never escape mediocrity in every aspect of his life. One or the other, really.

>I'm a retarded faggot so everyone is

>if I keep projecting, maybe I will stop noticing the taste of sperm and shit lingering in my mouth

It's time for a new one. Why don't you make that about Rand + Peterson? It'll probably get more replies. Or you can just slit your wrists.

I watched an interview where she said ANY kind of self sacrifice is bad. She hated all forms of altruism

Because she thought that working yourself to the bone to achieve a certain result is happiness.

Who the fuck is Peterson? Another retarded faggot like you? How is he relevant?

So you are new huh? Please lurk more and don't make threads that are to serve the sole purpose of jacking yourself off

I'm not new, little shit. I simply try to avoid retarded faggots, YA and shit like that. But I see you love to swim in it.

Lurk more, cunt bitch. And if you absolutely must crawl out of your shithole again, at least make your pathetic excuse of a bait less obvious next time. I know it's challenging for a handicap, so I'll give you a pass on this one.

normie magnet pseudo intellectual.

this is fundamentally correct, but good luck trying to have a serious discussion about it with people who don't agree. fedoras are on too tight.

>this is fundamentally correct,
Because you say so? Are you the same retarded faggot from earlier?

i don't like everything she says, but Atlas Shrugged ts a pretty interesting manifesto

>the nuclear family is crucial to those results
[citation needed]

>nuclear family is crucial to those results
God you pollacks are fucking dumb. The nuclear is a product of the 20th century. Please read a single book before posting on lit

What? No it's not. The nuclear family has been a staple of America since its birth. What are you on about?

Nuclear family = mommy, daddy, and two kids. For like 99.999% of human history people lived with their extended families, and in my countries and societies they still do.

For starters, several Roman emperors (notably Augustus) saw the family as the backbone of classic republican virtue and aggressively tried to enforce it through the empire. When Rome was in decline Tacitus would describe of the Germanics who became its inheritors that rigid monogamy was their most admirable virtue.

Your fault for reading Ayn Rand

Congrats, OP. This is you.

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The only thing I liked was Anthem. Of course, I was in junior high at the time, so that explains a lot. Everything else she wrote is 3rd rate crap. Nothing more than a crude framework to hang her propaganda on, and promote her so-called "philosophy".

Are you illiterate? Re-read his post.