Is anyone here able to argue against this notion? And I mean it both in the meta-ethical/descriptive sense (i.e. the genealogy of morals leads back to whoever detains power ascertaining his will as goodness) and the ethical/normative sense (whoever detains power is justified in ascertaining what's right or wrong)
Isaac Gray
*weinstein unzips*
Andrew Long
*stirner inserts*
Jacob Baker
>might doesn't make right >beats the shit out of you Now what?
Jose Johnson
So if a mob bands together their might makes right?
Noah Gutierrez
Enjoy living in an elephant seal society.
Sebastian Anderson
Might: It is right for humans to follow their pleasures incessantly. It pleases me to kill others. Genocide pleases me greatly.
Is he right?
Jose Howard
that's literally democracy tho
Dylan Jackson
*blocks your path*
Lincoln Adams
Might is the shortest distance to moral supremecy. However it leaves little in providing an deeper meaning than i told you so. So what happens when the one with supreme moral authority starts doubting himself, doubting what really makes him right? Does he beat himself up? Or does his ego?
Hunter Robinson
Its a morality that eats itself. Cannot sustain itself indefinitly. Example:two powers vie for supremecy, in an age of MAD. Words fail, so they both drop bombs, wiping each other out. Leaving the subjugated survivors and whats left of those who stayed out of conflict.
Ofc. Might and force is pretty vague.
Jason Ross
pretty unfortunate huh
Connor Allen
The 'philosophy' discussion on this board is fucking hilarious lmaooooo
Blake Adams
Op's question is pretty legit though
Adam Sanders
Not really, it's a rock-solid metaphysics.
Benjamin Young
>one person is a huge but strong dick, uses might to set the rules for others (Chad) >people tread on by Chad mob up and use their accumulated might to overthrow, now they are in the right >others, jealous of this original group form their own groups >these groups form internal contracts to keep integrity in might-maximization strategy >societies of geographically separate groups develop >is now >might makes right
Brody Wood
Morality exists because god exists.
Jace Hernandez
>exists. To exist means to stand out, like a figure stands out from a background
against what background does God stand out against?
also proof sounds like poof so pic related >give that man an Oscar
Jaxon King
Thrasymakhos pls go
Nathan Sanchez
>what background does God stand out against Quanquam sane hoc prima fronte non est omnino perspicuum, sed quandam sophismatis speciem refert. Cum enim assuetus sim in omnibus aliis rebus existentiam ab essentia distinguere, facile mihi persuadeo illam etiam ab essentia Dei sejungi posse, atque ita Deum ut non existentem cogitari. Sed tamen diligentius attendenti fit manifestum, non magis posse existentiam ab essentia Dei separari, quam ab essentia trianguli magnitudinem trium ejus angulorum æqualium duobus rectis, sive ab idea montis ideam vallis: adeo ut non magis repugnet cogitare Deum (hoc est ens summe perfectum) cui desit existentia (hoc est cui aliqua perfectio), quam cogitare montem cui desit vallis.
Liam Hill
When he refers to god here he's referring to axioms, right?
t.brainlet
Daniel Moore
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Thomas Kelly
Wow, Jordy, outing yourself as a """"""""""philosopher"""""""""" who has never read Kant? Absolutely repugnant, and questionable from a vantage of career security.
Isaac Russell
Why must what happens be what should happen?
Andrew Nguyen
>To exist means to stand out, like a figure stands out from a background He stands out without the need of a background
Lincoln Sanchez
>Is anyone here able to argue against this notion? P1: "Right" is a value judgement. P2: Value judgements imply perspectives. C1: A thing is only "right" from a particular perspective(s). P3: There is no universal perspective. C2: A thing cannot be universally "right."
Dominic Brooks
Jack Donovan is a flaming homosexual
Xavier Perez
all your premises lie on very shaky grounds lmao also op talked about normativity, not universality; you can have normative, particular ethical claims
Oliver Brooks
Even worse: his conclusion is congruent with and supports the metaethical notion that might makes right.
Wyatt Turner
>P3: There is no universal perspective.
Jaxson Moore
P1. Proof is impossible without an axiom P2. You need an axiom P3. ????????????? C. God exists
Levi Martinez
Are school shooters justified?
Jaxson Martinez
Since the nation (which controls the laws) is the mightiest, no.
Luke Collins
I think he means that the first axiom, that is to say the first mover or proposition, is, as a matter of fact, God.
Angel Howard
Really though, just look at this fag
Matthew James
It's settled, then? Might makes right?
Caleb Kelly
>YFW you realize Harvey Weinstein put his kike penis inside Emma.
William Price
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Austin Jenkins
Awwww Emma is so cute! I just wanna boop her lil poopies so much >mfw
Kayden Bennett
So, you shouldn't ever fight the status quo? To even consider it would be going against what's right.