should we replace le "start with the greeks" meme with "start with the chinese"? after all, they're the real pioneers of many philosophical endeavours and they actually fathered the very concept of philosophy way before the greeks, and while western civilization got atomized, china is the oldest living civilization.
tl;dr: greeks BTFO
hehehe but they got slanty eyes ehehehehehehhehehehe
No because "start with the Greeks" is for studying western philosophy
commence with the chinese
the average Veeky Forumsard thinks that western philosophy = everything
Why not just start with the Egyptians then?
Start with-
"Precepts of the prefect, the lord Ptah-hotep, under
the Majesty of the King of the South and
North,
Assa, living eternally forever."
http ://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/texts/precepts_of_ptahhotep.htm
it is
No, because the Chinese study Western philosophy in class.
Daoism is fucking good.
It's a completely different tradition, with only later connections to the western thought.
Completely optional.
> tfw amerimongrels are so self-centered that thinks that muh western civilization has always been the centre of the world
china has been the very centre of the world for many centuries, and it's finally restoring its supremacy over the globe. you'd benefit from understanding the chink mindset more than studying greek cucks
>implying western philosophy isn't actually eastern philosophy
>implying eastern philosophy isn't actually western philosophy
have you ever seen a globe nigger
Most people in the west care more about western philosophy than eastern philosophy. What a surprise!
You need to have a solid background in western philosophy (at the very least you should have read some Plato, Hegel, Nietzsche and Heidegger) to appreciate Buddhism and Daoism instead of simply dismissing them as a mystical, relativist trash, or turning into mystical, relativist trash yourself.
no, start with L Ron Hubbard, its all in there and you know what? you'll have a ball
> reading chinese philosophy with western lenses
intellectual midget detected
>Plato,hegel,nietzsche,heidegger
>not mystical trash
You won't understand it without learning the language, and most here don't exactly read greek/latin let alone classical chinese
woah... deep
>lense memes
Sorry to break this to you, but if any set of statements you can use to understand the world is a lense that distorts the way you look at new information, you're going to need to unlearn how to think and then use the chinese texts you are trying to understand in a vacuum to get an (((objective))) read on them
WOKE
speak for yourself, laowai
fpbp
>china is the oldest living civilization
lol cool assumption you just made there
China is basically Egypt but with more pyramids. Strangely the Chicoms aren't very proud of their illustrious heritage as pyramid-builders and covered many of them with dirt.
define civilisation, plebs.
that's true, Steve Marshall wrote a book or something about that I think.
>Confucius say: ching chong chop suey
>the Confucian system literally unironically encouraged rote learning
IS THIS THE POWER OF EASTERN PHILOSOPHY AHAHAHAHA
taoism seems OK, at least from outside without me knowing anything in depth about it. Confucianism and Buddhism are utter shit though.
> tfw the peak of greek philosophy is "I KNOW THAT I KNOW NOTHING"
how will greekfags ever recover
1. Find any old chinese man
2. Bring up legalism
3. Watch their face turn sour and bitter
start with sumerian bookkeeping literature
Where would you start with the chinese, Confucius and Taoism?
taoism has indian origins, confucius is okay
>start
>implying the notion of time, begginning etc
the tao is timeless, impersonal and any notion of its study takes you away from it
I'll give it no more consideration then.
>taoism has indian origins
lit is kill
chinese literature exists?
>they actually fathered the very concept of philosophy way before the greeks
confucius birth: 551 BC
thales birth: 624 BC
...
Exactly. 551 comes before 624, dumbass
Get back to the sweatshop Lee, Mr. Goldberg want' those phones produced by next week.
Because we are westerners. It is not practical, because many more of us are slated to read western literature and philosophy, and to relate through it.
Mostly, good luck finding external opportunities for reflection.
dumb frogposter
Can't we just make a "start with the chinese" list and make poor OP happy?
I start with my limited knowledge
Analects by Confucius
Tao te king by Lao Tzu
Some book by the Yellow Emperor
Journey to the West by some fuck
Some shit about mohism and legalism
Heart Sutra by le Gautama Buddha
Some book about the chinese mythology
The little Red by Mao
Blease make one anons - i believe in you