>state I don't like communism and accept it had many flaws
>UGH YOU DARE SAY COMMUNISTS WEREN'T SATAN URE A COMMUNIST!!!!11
Quality argument.
>centuries of propaganda
All I said was true even if very general because I can't describe detailed history of such a big group in two sentences.
But "communism is the reason we're poor(er)" is absolute bullshit.
Can we have a thread about Eastern Europe? Why is it in the state it's in...
Joseph Roberts
Elijah Wood
>I shit on "everything was great before communism" meme.
It wasn't, but stuff was starting to catch up before that.
Andrew Ross
And it was "catching up" during communism too. It just never caught up.
I just hate this pretending that before communism EE was some highly advanced society. And then some Pole posts a poster showing how their reforms would go.
Meanwhile in 1938 Soviets had higher GDP per capita.
Again, nationlist romanticism is not reality. Communism was shit for many reasons but it didn't really destroy anything, on the contrary.
We maybe missed chances but then again seeing where West is heading now makes you wonder.
Adam Robinson
hungarians are finno-ugric and catholic/protestant
romanian are latin and orthodox
gypsies are about 10% of the population in both countries but a lot of them declare themselves as hungarians or romanians respectively
Juan Anderson
You don't really get much real history based on facts OP. A lot of the "history" is just he said she said bullshit.
Nathan Campbell
>But "communism is the reason we're poor(er)" is absolute bullshit.
GPD 1938-1990.png
Gabriel Brooks
>Hungary was okay but never near West
In the last peaceful year of the Austro-Hungarian era, Hungarian gdp per capita has estimated to rose to 70% of Austrias average and had consistently higher rates of growth since the 1890s.
This was larger than Spain, Portugal or Greece, ans on par with Finland and Italy.
Noah Martinez
Yes comparison of GDP per capita when former communist economies collapsed due to neoliberal reforms (1990).
Also, no comparison with Belgium, Germany, France.
Brandon Rogers
like this?
Jeremiah Reyes
>10%
More like 5%, but it's hard to tell because those that decide to settle down and end up marrying Romanians or Hungarians(or Slovaks for that matter) deny being gyppos. I believe Slovakia has the largest gipsy % in Europe, but that may be due to the fact that Hung gypsies and Rom gypsies would rather declare themselves to be part of the ethnic majority