How come only Ligotti managed to adequately continue the Lovecraftian tradition?

He isn't pomo, he takes clear and precise, honest stances. He absolutely despised sophism and degenerate trickery.

He didn't Ligotti is an annoying faggot

>He absolutely despised sophism
and yet he believed in fucking alien gods, yeah, sure

I want to beat this slant eyed cunt with a tire iron. I don't know why but her face just needs to be busted open

I'd like to spend 30 minutes tonguing her clit, if you know what I mean

>believed

That would be Conan Doyle, Lovecraft was the opposite of what his books were about.

ligotti.net/showthread.php?t=8726

the very real horror of excruciating pain and physical illness as well as mental illness.

Please go back to r/books

Laird Barron can be decent. Horrible writer overall.

So he was hella PoMo

Dude what do you think PoMo means?

postmodern

Plenty of people have written adequate near-lovecraftian Horror, but they'll write a hundred terrible stories in-between the good ones.

Racism is barely a footnote in his work.

>he hasn't got that every monster is a metaphor for minorities

How come only Ito managed to adequately continue the Lovecraftian tradition?

>he didn't read Klein

what a pomo thing to say

I see you don't know your mangakas, sir.

>ancient alien horrors so unfathomably powerful and complex human minds cannot begin to comprehend their existence
>he must mean minorities lul

Anyone got epubs/mobis of T.E.D Klein? Can't find them.

The Shadow Over Innsmouth is literally about race mixing and degenerate foreign religions.
I was memeing saying they were a metaphor but you're purposefully blind if you can't see the obvious race angle throughout his work

Who does it better? 6000 is another good one.

Stop trying to make “Pomo” happen, it’s not going to happen.
Also postmodernism good and Jordan Peterson intentionally misrepresents it to drain money from his brainlet patreon donators.

try kago shintaro

you don't say

will do

>degenerate foreign religions
All religion is degenerate. Boxing natural human spirituality into a uniform institution for mass control and indoctrination by those in control of the power structure is borderline criminal. Spirituality is an exploration of the human condition, not a rigid tool to manipulate and shape.

yeah no religion holds civilization in check

enjoy your dirt hugging shit where you eat spiritual dwellings, red nigger man.

>All religion is degenerate.

Stupid cunt, Christianity is what the West is founded on

Oh, I did not know Ancient Greeks were Christians, thank you padre.

Greek Civilization was Pre-Western

>implying the west is inherently superior
>implying Christianity isn’t an inherently flawed foundation due to its inability to back up its lofty spiritual claims that anchor its strict rules
>implying the status quo is the only way humans can live
Flush the spooks from your mind and sort yourself out

Civilization does not need to be held in check. Holding civilization in check is how you end up with mental illness and high suicide rates. Holding the population “in check” only benefits those who stand to profit from the established social order. Ideas and thoughts should flow freely.

>Hasn't read any Augustine or Aquinas
>Posts on Veeky Forums

You're done talking now

What constitutes western civilization in this case? Europe and North America? The anglosphere? Modern nations not in the eastern cultural hemisphere? You’re playing it fast and loose with these poorly defined labels. When did it start exactly? With the rise of Christianity as a religion inside the Roman Empire? If western means Christian, western civilization might not have much in the way of a future

Wtf I love open borders now!

Not an argument

>If western means Christian, western civilization might not have much in the way of a future

Correct, hence why we see everything falling apart

Yes... it is

...

Wow, you took a massive leap from that to open borders. A society can collectively decide what is right for itself, but forcing the citizens of said society to think only within pre-approved mental and ideological boundaries is a method of control and should be resisted.
>he still falls for left/right spooks

>mfw I have been systematically derailing Lovecraft threads for months by pretending to be a politically motivated racist and claiming him as a vanguard of racialist thought

You're right fuck racism and wypipo n' sheeeit

Obnoxiously reductivist thinking detected.
Surely no social, economic, or geopolitical factors are at play here. It’s because those darned kids are spending too much time on their Nintendo games instead of going to church. And those darned modern women.

>It controls people so it's bad
Why?

Me too but unironically

2/10 troll at best

From the perspective of someone in a position of power, nothing.
From the perspective of someone lower on the social ladder, uncomfortable freedom is strongly preferable to comfortable slavery. Cattle lives in a pasture, humans yearn for absolute freedom, or at least the illusion of it.

>From the perspective of someone lower on the social ladder, uncomfortable freedom is strongly preferable to comfortable slavery.
Dubious

>From the perspective of someone lower on the social ladder, uncomfortable freedom is strongly preferable to comfortable slavery.
According to what? You?

The factors you talk about only list what are the limits of possibility to act within a given social context. What it doesn't answer is why act at all?
The Faith the West was founded on has been stripped from us and we have nothing in its place but the empty platitudes of the pleasure principal. The environment is irrelevant to this front, there can only be death from here

>humans yearn for absolute freedom
Speak for yourself.

All the clocks were striking noon when I began the daylong process of being diagnosed for what was very wrong with me. I can recall some details vividly, like lying on a gurney outside of the radiology department while I screamed for help or euthanasia, which only brought a nurse running to my side to inform me I could either be quiet or be expelled from the hospital. She’d taken sure measures before with screamers like me, and I believed her. What I can’t figure out is how the whole of one day had passed until I was wheeled in for “emergency” surgery in the wee hours of the next day. However, even though I was no more than a heap of messed up meat that hadn’t taken its medications that day, there still was a little voice in the back of my brain that every so often squeaked out a few words. The first of two most memorable squeaks was when the surgeon said to a vague figure in the background, “Your brother is a very sick man,” and then turned to me to inquire whom I wanted to appoint to make decisions for me in case I couldn’t make them for myself. “My brother,” said the little voice in the back of my brain. But I couldn’t say that. I could only raise my arm a little and point toward the vague figure in the background. The second most memorable occasion was when an anesthesiologist manifested himself and said, “My name is Dr. Blackstone.”

“Of course it is,” piped the little voice at the back of my brain.

>we wuz western civilization n shieet
t. ""white"" amerilard with no history nor culture
Wtf I love being a slave now! Please whip me master!
>Nigger
Wow... so this is the power of universalist religions uh

I think reddit might be your scene buddy

>Holding civilization in check is how you end up with mental illness and high suicide rates.

We call those people trannies

Has human history not made this apparent? In situations where a population feels they lack control of their own destiny, strife follows. It transcends linguistic and cultural barriers. The enlightenment thinkers discussed this on a grand scale.

>Wtf I love being a slave now! Please whip me master!
If I've learned anything from the experience of "freedom", it's that it's not worth it and I'd rather live in a more regulated, stable society. For one who values human autonomy as much as yourself, don't you think people should be able to make this sort of value judgment?

>Has human history not made this apparent?

It really hasn't

That round faced blushing butterball is the most successful con artist of the 2010’s

IMBOUTTOOPENACANOFWHOOPASS

t. Drinks unfiltered water

And why do trannies exist? Because effeminate males are so thoroughly alienated they end up associating with the other gender and, in desperation, cut their peckers off to “transition.” Symptom.

Pre-Western, you realize the Greeks were influencial in Muslim civilization too?

IS providence really that good? The first issue I've read and it was kind of inconsistent. The letters were boring as hell.

This is the literature board, Bucko. I think /pol/ might be more your speed

Veeky Forums is just the intellectual wing of /pol/, boards aren't isolated islands like on reddit

Ligotti's forums seem so comfy. What's the crew like?

i wish he just did a daily blog of his shit life desu

Yeah, it's a commentary on Lovecraft and Lovecraftian the same way From Hell is a commentary on 20th century and flanerism.

used to post there but I think it's fairly dead now. pretty free of shitposting but naturally Ligotti attracts some "interesting" personalities.

>Lovecraftian

>it's a commentary

>/pol/
>intellectual
o i am laffin
Intellect and adolescent angst have no partnership.

Why does Ligotti get hate? I thought at his best he was a great atmospheric writer of his genre and at his worst a little bit rambley.

his prose is banal and his ideas, weak.

>Intellect and adolescent angst have no partnership.

Tell that to most of the Western Canon

I wonder how many of her friends know about "that" video?

ok guys, what girl and what video?

reverse image search

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fake

if it was real it would be a fat tranny talking through his asshole for hours on end and covering classical sculptures with his garish clothing

i know, i was in the vienna museum of modern art

obviously the photo has been edited
however those stills are from a real video that kelly balthazar aka 'mayli' did for facialabuse

>Bloodborne
I did enjoy the nods to Lovecraft traditions, but I wish they'd developed the lore more and made the bosses more than just spooky monsters, kind of cheapens the effect of a Great One when it turns out to be a retarded spider thing can be killed with an axe in a few minutes
Could have really distanced themselves if they'd made the combat a bit different than DaS, that was the game's one flaw imo
/ramblings

> hasn't read "A Colder War" by Stross, or
> "The Unthinkable" by Sterling

i love Jethro Tull!

The monsters aren't the point.

That interview was a great read. I haven't read any of Ligotti's stories, now I think I will.