How could one man be so right about everything?

When she was 27, she went to Freud, seeking treatment for vague symptoms including stomach ailments and slight depression related to menstruation. Freud diagnosed Eckstein as suffering from hysteria and believed that she masturbated to excess; masturbation in those days was considered dangerous to mental health. Her 'treatment lasted something in the region of three years – one of the most protracted and detailed of Freud's early cases'.

Freud was at the time under the influence of his friend and collaborator Wilhelm Fliess, an ear, nose, and throat specialist. Fliess, whom Freud had called "the Kepler of biology", had developed theories today considered pseudoscientific, including the belief that sexual problems were linked to the nose by a supposed nasogenital connection. Fliess had been treating "nasal reflex neurosis" by cauterizing the inside of the nose under local anesthesia. Fliess conjectured that if temporary cauterization was useful, surgery would yield more permanent results. He began operating on the noses of patients he diagnosed with the disorder, including Eckstein and Freud.

His surgery proved disastrous, resulting in profuse, recurrent nasal bleeding – Fliess had left a half-metre of gauze in Eckstein’s nasal cavity, the subsequent removal of which left her permanently disfigured. Though aware of Fliess’s culpability – Freud fled from the remedial surgery in horror – he could only bring himself to delicately intimate in his correspondence to Fliess the nature of his disastrous role and in subsequent letters maintained a tactful silence on the matter or else returned to the face-saving topic of Eckstein’s hysteria. Freud ultimately reasserted his full confidence in Fliess's competence, making Eckstein responsible for the whole catastrophe by concluding that her post-operative hemorrhages were "wish-bleedings", caused by her hysterical longing for the affection of others.

Create them and/or browse /pol/.

Freud was a fraud.
It's catchy and to the point.

>Nah, his more edgy shit about the unconscious mind, etc.

user he is still lauded by academia and the clinical sciences more than any other thinker in modern society. I don't know how else to say this to you. He has totally shaped the game for the last few decades. He is political correctness itself.

>implying considering homosexuality a pathology (freud wasn't against them, just considered them something wrong and preventable like diabetes) is with the norm

>He is political correctness itself.
.t virgin jungian

>refusing to see the simple truth of this on a macro level because you're tired of being called a fucking faggot all the time

>He is political correctness itself.
What did xir mean by this?

Is this bait or do you simply like talking out of your ass a lot?

He literally is you excitable nu-/pol/ tourist.

>Is this bait

You're incredulous at the suggestion that Freudian analysis has been a major speculative and institutionalized driving force in civil society for a while? Are you seriously this stupid? Tell me this is reverse bait. Please.

>you're depressed at work because you saw your dad's dick as a child
wtf i am now a psychoanalyst

the dude who proscribed cocaine to his patients and formulated the Oedipus complex is by no standards politically correct. Any Freudian analysis beyond basic "this character wants to fuck this character" is not usually encouraged or taught. Most people think the libido only has to do with sexual drive, and most have no idea what death drive is.

wtf have i now skimmed the wikipedia summary of freud

more like
>you're depressed at work because you saw your dad's dick as a child and hmmm maybe that's actually the underlying cause of your rampant denial of your raging homosexuality

it's easy to take for granted a lot of things we just assume to be true and forget how retarded people used to be (just like they still are)

>Write 30.000 pages
>ZOMG HE GOT SO MANY THINGS RIGHT

>the dude who proscribed cocaine to his patients and formulated the Oedipus complex is by no standards politically correct

You are conflating things here: it is "politically correct" insofar as his thought has bled into and informed our clinical and academic fields. And not in an absolute way, but comparatively more than most modern thinkers. His thought of man as a whole more closely conforms to secular vagaries than most others is what I'm saying.

>this word repetition
Ghastly. I'm tired and retarded.

it's okay man, I get what you were saying

what are some things he was wrong about (start with 1)

children unconsciously think their mother has a penis

Because he read Don Quijote in spanish since he was a teenager.

Didn't he start a society and also have a pen nam based off a Cervantes character from one of his exemplary stories?

He was jewish and spurred the idea that the goyim could be controlled by reducing them to base sexual desires, so he's thus promoted by the jews who run western academic institutions today.

I don't really know all those details.
But Freud was /lit as fuck.

Hello, reddit!

>t. never read Freud

He snorted a lot of coke, like a lot dude that shit is crazy LMFAO

Sup nu-/pol/. Remember to ride the room and clean your tiger.

How fast would someone be banned on reddit for posting that comment? Actually scratch that question, what's it like being retarded?

Hello, reddit!

the part about the old hillbilly uncle calling people traps in public always gets me
also, wtf are these degenerates using Veeky Forums slang irl

>How fast would someone be banned on reddit for posting that comment?

user is implying that you are boorish and give overly simplistic readings to things. Just like a redditor. You are the same as them - only of a different feather.

It is getting to the point where I must make a concentrated effort to leave this godforsaken website

I don't know what that is, but if the middle-aged women who have over the last 50 years taken up the mantle for jewish liberalism and are historically the most responsible for enforcing the status quo of the day are getting jew-wise, that is a very good sign.

How could one man be so right about everything?

My comment was straight to the point. What, you don't think I was an idiot like you once who read Freud and believed his ideas to have some deep meaning before growing up and realizing he was just a subversive jew? I do recall fondly and in a way envy that type of ignorance.

>>I don't know what that is

>when you accidentally and undeniably confirm how new you are without meaning to

It's fascinating to watch cognitive dissonance play itself out in real time. Just because I tell you that you give overly simplistic readings to things like a redditor that necessarily makes me someone who is Freudian in mindset and trying to defend him? Amusingly enough you can't see that this super fresh hot take of yours was yet another simplistic reading. It's like that's your only speed.

Are you implying there's something honorable about you spending most of your short life on Veeky Forums and reddit and still being an idiot who doesn't understand the jewish problem?

That was a fairly obvious assumption for me to make. Get some coffee, bud.

sauce?

coke isnt really psychadelic, it was pretty much his Monster sipping of the day

see
After a few posts from you I can see plainly that you are literally that picture personified, btw.

You are a meme.

the part about you thinking that is not roleplaying always gets me

look up Phallic Mother.
I don't know where Freud formulates it, but I know he is the one that developed it from seeing it discussed in other sources. I was reading a book on sexual fetishes and fashion

Everything is a meme to you though, that's all you know. You announcing this sad reality of yours is no insult to me.

ok, well ... if that was a theory of his, it was not an important one, apparently quite arbitrary and meaningless. Unless he is just suggesting mothers masculine energy. Especially considering kids relatively young learn about boys have pee pee and girls have v v. Anyway... Any other things maybe more significant, he was wrong about?

Big if true

What is this from?

you said one thing, I named it. He thought that the discovery that the mother did not have a penis is the start of male castration anxiety, and men seek out feminine phallic things sexually to try to regain the mother's penis. He said that women begin loving their mothers by coveting her penis, and once the discovery is made, then looks for the father. I think that makes it pretty relevant to his development of theories on sexuality.

He was referring to the perverted psychology of his own people, jews, and doing a very jewish thing: projecting these jewish psychoses onto non-jews.

wikipedia about Emma Eckstein. Doesn't have much to do with Freud though, Freud was just starting out then, was deeply affected by the event, and cut ties with the guy after. So it doesn't really say much negative about him, but it can be used I guess to make it seem like Freud was a dumb monster without discussing anything else about him

t. doesn't know shit about academic psychology and cognitive science or clinical psychiatry.

This guy's theories hold almost no weight today. His work is usually introduced as being outdated, highly speculative, and false, with a remark on the side that his primary lasting influence was his emphasis on unconscious and subconscious drives. His speculation regarding stuff like the id, ego, and supergo, desire, the death instinct, and the "sex drive" (he used this term in a very specific manner that was loaded with a lot of theoretical baggage that's completely different from it's much more theory-neutral usage today) is almost universally and completely rejected today outside of literature departments and perhaps a few sociology departments.

Psychologists, cognitive scientists, neuroscientists, linguists, and philosophers pretty much completely ignore his work, and most of them haven't even read. Someone like Husserl (or even Franz Brentano) is much more popular.

I want to shit on you for being a really tedious and corny geriatric afterthought but I know that you're just old and trying to fit in with a culture that seems rather nebulous and often disagreeable to you because all the other old babyboomer and elderly in your life subscribe heavily to mainstream media are boring as fuck, but don't continually pretend you're above all of this. You're not. If you weren't you wouldn't be consigning yourself to dealing with all these low-down, contemptible memester children. Stop being such a try hard hypocrite, old man. Remember where you are.

>Psychologists, cognitive scientists, neuroscientists, linguists, and philosophers pretty much completely ignore his work
t. ignoramus
So much of academic work today is done through a Lacanican framework, which is just a reworking of the Freudian framework

I'm not old, I just don't go to reddit. And that seven minutes of your life would have been better spent learning how Freud's jewishness affected his ideas. But I know life is pretty much a waste of time to you anyway, isn't it? Get your priorities straight, friend.

>I'm not old

LOL you are so pseud you come across as a hapless old man trying to fit in. I honestly thought you were.

You are a legitimate fucking dork, bro.

>But I know life is pretty much a waste of time to you anyway, isn't it?

You are literally pissing time away on Veeky Forums as you write this you conflicted idiot. You must be so fucking boring to be around. Damn.

Assertions that would hold more water if you hadn't already struck out. And if I was interested in fitting in I wouldn't be talking about the jewish problem itt, would I? Let's aim for the target in the future, buddy.

I have bachelors in linguistics and philosophy with a minor in math from one of the top linguistics programs in the US and just started grad school for cognitive science at a top 50 university in the field. Literally nobody in psychology does work from a "Lacanian framework", and most undergrads wont even encounter the name.

The people who do study Lacan (or Freud) are mostly people in literate departments, women's studies, sociology, x-studies, etc. In fact, both continental philosophy and psychoanalysis have both been largerly uninfluential and remained mostly ignored by philosophy and psychology departments. Once again, psychoanalysis and continental philosophy is mostly studied by people in other humanities departments working on "theory" (e.g. literary theory, feminist theory, film criticism, art criticism, theory heavy music history/appreciation, post-colonial and race theory, queer theory, etc. - i.e. people working in literature and x-studies departments).

When academic psychologists, philosophers, and cognitive scientists do study continental philosophy, it's usually phenomenology, and generally either Merleau-Ponty, Husserl, or Heidegger. The popularity of such figures is largely due to interest in "enactivism", "embodied cognition", and theories about the "extended mind" (c.f. Alva Noe, Andy Clark, Francisco Varella, George Lakoff, Mark Johnson, David Chalmers, etc.).

In recent years there has also been an increase in appreciation for structuralism/hermeneutics (but post-structuralism and deconstruction remain largely ignored). (Additionally, Hegel has been receiving a small amount of attention as well.)

>Assertions that would hold more water if you hadn't already struck out.

Nope I'm preddy sure I'm right about the boring dork thing.

>Freud
>cult leader
huh you're thinking of Lacan or something

>DSM
not related to freud, americans did that shit in the 50's

>drugs
not part of psychoanalysis

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Guess I lose out for not being prone to bragging online about experiences and accomplishments you only wish were your own. You can think of me however you wish if you are educating yourself about the jewish problem, or obtaining the seedlings that will allow you to grasp it when you've reached a more mature state of mind.

you are an idiot. I know youre convinced that youre an intelligent and educated person who is able to see more of the inner workings of society and the world than most and are thus shunned by the "normie" sheep dumber than you, but I just want you to know youre an idiot who is so deeply blinded by his ideology that he has actually lost grip on reality. Go outside, start talking to more smart people who dont share your ideology and try to free yourself.

>reddit spacing

Daily reminder that the Oedipus complex doesn't exist

It's difficult to read your post and not come to the conclusion that you're talking about yourself. The world is a complex place and many of the ideas in it are hard to grasp if you aren't able to think outside the box. Good luck with that.

It does exist but only in some people.

The JQ isn't even anywhere near the highest strata. You're faux redpilled. Anyway I've moved on from this stuff after I took the time to study it and understand it. It's enough just to know. To obsess over these things isn't healthy. Letting conspiracy theory rent space in your head for too long isn't healthy. It will poison your character and make you really boring and humorless.

Guys like you always have the propensity to become minor megalomaniacs because of this stuff. You truly see yourself as being above the "sheeple" now, don't you? You can see the megalomania disconnect in your post for example when you keep arrogantly ranting about time wasters and people wasting their lives as you hypocritically continue to do just that same with each post. It's like you have no reflexive understanding of yourself anymore. It's all us vs. them shit now. It's not a good way to be, man.

I've been here back when Digg was the main normie site. Reddit spacing is a meme that newfags use on other newfags.

>"conspiracy theory"
>that attempt at psychoanalysis
>reddit spacing

spotted the redditor kike

He was the seed from which modern psychology and psychiatry sprung.

As I said, immortalized cult leader.

Look at how much time you just devoted to me then ask yourself who's living in who's head. I'm not insulting anyone here, I'm being polite and encouraging, while you come off as a loon. Sort yourself out.

>>that attempt at psychoanalysis

It's true: a man's world is shaped by his imagination. It's enough to study and comprehend a situation then one should move on to other, more edifying vistas. If you give conspiracy theory too much rented space in your head you're affording it more power over your own personal world than you'd ever care to admit.

Just my two cents brooo.

>in one ear
>out the other

You know what, dude? Have fun. Get nice and obsessed with it.

>obsessed
That is the word I'd use to describe you after reading your long sperg post then this awkward attempt to shrug it off after you were called out for being a weirdo.

I like this subtle re-framing job you're trying to do where I'm the weirdo now. Was it the megalomaniac bit? Was that the part that got you heated? I'm actually trying to help you be less of a legitimately obsessed human being over this. It'll turn you into a wet blanket psycho.

I can safely say that both of you faggots are fucking retarded.

psychoanalysts aren't too keen on medical psychiatry you dumb anime poster

psychologists today hate freud because he's not "scientific" enough, he's not a cult leader

Rude.

>heated
Again the projection after your sperg essay and insults. You wouldn't by chance be jewish would you? This is precisely what I explained Freud was doing in my first post about projecting jewish psychosis onto non-jews, which is all his ideas boil down to.

>You wouldn't by chance be jewish would you?

Nope. This is what I meant before when I said
>It's all us vs. them shit now
for you. If I'm not matching your level of obsession over conspiracy theory then I *must* be Jewish. Classic JIDF subversion!!

I'm sincerely glad that I distanced myself from conspiracy theory matters before I made it an ever-present concern in my life. Even just talking to a character like you is draining. Fuck actually being one of you.

I simply asked you a question. And I know I'm repeating myself here, but you come off as a lunatic and a sperg who needs to sort himself out, though I guess that's why you're writing long-winded posts in a Freud thread in the first place.

>I simply asked you a question.

Play coy all you want; it only makes you seem like the shifty one here.

fix u
How could one man be so right about Freud?

...

no

genius

also i hate discussing freud because plebs always hate on him

>most of his theories are 'disproven'
bitch you can't disprove a theory

>he did coke which for some reason 'invalidates' his theories
bitch have you never fucking done coke?

stop being 16 and/or kill yourself

He is a philosopher, not a psychologist. His theories explaning human behaviour aren't data driven, and have as much value as mine, yours or that of John Green

Yep, he said that the Medusa of mythology is comforting because she's a woman with "penises" (snakes).