What did he have to say?

What did he have to say?

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Maybe you should read something he wrote and find out

Democracy is stupid

Slavery is good

I am homosexual

heard a youtube lecture by an uk nazi about him the other day, was bretty gud, not sure if he's actually a good read though, i'll try at some point.

what did he write? only essays and satire or also some kind of fiction?

I am going to translate the whole of the German tradition.


Also heroes and shit.

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You mean Bowden, right?

probably, is he a nazi? that aside the guy spoke well and was very high energy

Some people would call him that, yes. He is self-described Nietzschean. Was the subtitle Aryan Mystic?

it was this one
youtube.com/watch?v=UKKv-Pu420E
so "Thomas Carlyle-the Sage of Chelsea"

the aryan mystic one seems to be about hp lovecraft
youtube.com/watch?v=V7qQ7A4rWM8
haven't seen it yet but i probably will at some point. that subtitle is funny though, specially seeing that hp lovecraft looked like some kind of ugly neet infrabeing

You should look into his correspondence with Dickens about India.

My apologies I thought I was posting in the Lovecraft thread.

Poor Bowden, the guy was legitimately smart but was unable to abstain from awkward politics.

>white nationalism
>awkward politics
Kill yourself, /leftycuck/.

Thank you for linking me the Carlyle video.

The Carlyle talk was fantastic.

i don't know much about the guy, but nazi thing aside he also had a talk about Evola that was breddy gud

youtube.com/watch?v=4YqKf3v2aPs
>Julius Evola: The World's Most Right Wing Thinker

>but nazi thing aside
He was a British nationalist.

He joined the BNP and spent most of his time lecturing to skinheads

I don't know that they were skinhead guttertrash, but it's true that he was sympathetic to National Socialism as an ideology. Bowden was a forerunner to the current year's AltRight crowd which is completely unlike the "White Nationalist", Stormfront underground "movement".

>skinheads

The camera has panned across the audience a few times in his talks and most of the crowd appeared to have their hair intact.

Anyway, he later regretted his BNP associations due to a falling out with the head honcho, Griffin. Bowden's role in the party was to try and inject some intellectuality, some culture, some history into the rank and file of the party. To what degree he succeeded, I don't know, the party's dead now anyway and so is Jonathan unfortunately. But at least his talks remain on the internet and there are some great ones out there. Pity the audio/video in pretty much all of them tended to suck.

His politics were a lot less awkward than the current year's fascination with normalizing "pedosexuality" and chemically castrating little boys. I think it's hard not to sympathize with even the cruelest despot of history before taking the side of ethical perverts like modern "leftists".

I liked his Wyndham Lewis video
youtube.com/watch?v=rVx67nfFmAo

And whence did our hero-king, one called koenig, able-man, come from? Did we by providence of heaven come by a man of qualities both rare and superb? Nay, the man cast his gaze and set it steely, fixated 'pon the Earth, this terrestrial realm, and spake thusly: "Set yourselves to work and thereby make thyself free by ye own hand, by ye own sweat and by ye back may you be content". Here! The great man in terrible awe is held and all who behold him speak terribly of him like the thunder that sets the sky to blaze.

Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind?
Es ist der Vater mit seinem Kind;
Er hat den Knaben wohl in dem Arm,
Er faßt ihn sicher, er hält ihn warm.

Hark! The great man cometh and the labour of man, of oxen, of plough shall reap from the stony Earth the better-share of wealth from toil.

Its basically that but for 500 pages

For what it's worth, I recall many of my leftie professors saying he was a proto-fascist. I don't exactly get that from his texts, but I understand why they say that. I would sooner say he was very critical of populism.

For what it's worth, I recall many of my leftie professors saying he was a brilliant romantic writer and poet. I don't exactly get that from his texts, but I understand why they say that. I would sooner say he was very critical of the enlightenment.

Oy, no need to parody my half-assed reply. What I said is still valid. I cannot envision how any self-proclaimed Marxist could ever admire Carlyle.

I listened to his Mishima talk, not only was it entirely shallow on the work and the figure but there is one moment where he mentions the play "my friend Hitler" that elicits boorish jeers and clapping, sums up his entire audience

yeah, he is a nazi, we already discussed that, why is the talk shallow otherwise?

a Victorian reactionary, but also a modernist in some sense.

It offers no insight into Mishima other than he was a nationalist who killed himself

He wanted to encapsulate the French Revolution from Bastille to the beheading of the 'sea green' Robespierre within the parameters of a vaudeville show in which he himself 'played' that fellow with the long shepherd's crook (God), yanking performers off the stage rather violently for the most part, if sometimes gently. He wanted to say that Mirabeau was THE MAN (if not his prophet).

The only shallowness found here is your interpretation of the talk.

>He was something of a Tory, something of a Sans-culotte, something of an Imperialist, something of a Socialist; but he was never, even for a single moment, a Liberal.

That about sums him up.

He wrote essays yes, but his biggest works were his histories, French Revolution Fredrick the Great and Oliver Cromwells speeches and then theres his lasting work Sartor Resartus on German Idealism and alot of other works the mostwell known maybe Heros and Hero Worship. While his prose is very good it takes a bit to get used to the Carlylese style.
I would advice anyone, interested in Carlyle or not, to read his French Revolution an important view. Carlyle is also a good counter to reading Whig history, especially in his Chartism and Past and Present.

tl;dr Good but crude style, important literary thinker, start with histories (on past and Victorian Era) and/or Heros then Essays then Sartor Resartus.

He is the British Nietzsche.