Pedo-core lit

What's your favorite book that features pedophilia Veeky Forums? Are there any good contemporary ones? It seems like this civilization is incapable of addressing child-adult relationships. I mean, nobody denies the existence of child sexuality anymore, and mutual seduction between child and adult is possible. In the year 2017, Socrates would be witchhunted as a child molester, and Oxford University would sack Lewis Carroll as a child pornographer.

The Catcher in the Rye can be added as a book with potential pedophilic undertones.

Death in Venice and Protagoras

Reminder that jews are and have always been the main promoters of pedophilia in the west. Regarding the publication of Lolita:

>Via his translator Doussia Ergaz, it reached Maurice Girodias of Olympia Press, "three-quarters of [whose] list was pornographic trash".
>Girodias was born Maurice Kahane in Paris, France ... His father was Jewish

Pedophilia/hephebophilia is traditional, retard. Childhood as we know it is a creation of modern times. Most traditional societies, for better or worse, thought of kids as young adults, and it wasn't until industrialization that a real differentiation was made. I'm Anglo-saxon and my great-grandmother was married at 14 and had her first child by 16.

lolita is anti-paedo

>all that nabokov
And the fag said that he don't diddled kids, ha!

yeah but people didn't live as long then so having a child at 16 a hundred years ago is not the equivalent of doing the same today

Are you mentally retarded? Look up life expectancies in the early 20th century. Also, the issue is one of what defines childhood. Industrialization separated work from non-work, productive time from other social acts, and created a much more rigid division between the non-worker and the worker, leading to a growing differentiation between child and adult.

I'd throw Gravity's Rainbow in there

What parts exactly, I don't remember any?

120 Days of Sodom is homosexual too. They bring in lots of little 'cupids', alongside girls.
Gide, obviously. Another thing worth noting is his collection of Socratic dialogues on homosexuality and pederasty, 'Corydon'. One could also add La Symphonie Pastoral to the heterosexual category? Apart from Gide, lots of continental European authors of the late 19th and early 20th century. Thomas Mann, obviously.
Less renowned authors like Roger Peyrefitte, exclusive pederast, who began a relationship with a 12 year old aristocrat and extra in an adaptation of his movie about homosexual relationship between two boys at a Catholic boarding school.
Others of cursory interest in this area: Burroughs, Whitman, Vidal, Wilde, the Uranians.

Writing about this makes me feel a little ill, sexually and morally. It's an interesting topic, but I don't like reciting off a list of names like this to make the sexual aspect of their work the most pronounced, like a uniting thread weaving them all together. Thomas Mann and Andre Gide, for instance, are much finer and richer material than Vidal or Ginsberg or Peyrefitte - the hebephilia is important for understanding them and their work, but...? It's not so morbid and dominating. Less trivial? I don't really like charts by topic. It feels like an unnatural, stilted way of discovering authors and the things they write about. Sorry if I sound pretentious.

Also, it's dumb as fuck I was banned for the OP post when I'm not even a pedo. I know Global Rule 1 is that we won't discuss anything that violates US law but I see people discussing stealing, murder, and other illegal things all the time, we can't even have a discussion about pedophilia throughout history and it's relation to literature and art without having the standard contemporary hysteria.

They banned you but kept the thread up? Odd.

Yeah, probably a salty mod, the ban message was for "pedo bullshit". All the women I've dated have been older than me lol. Once you start reading about the history of sexuality the modern witchhunt mindset around pedophilia becomes more and more ridiculous. Whether you like it or not, adult child romantic/sexual relationships have been a thing for thousands of years, I think we should be able to discuss them from an objective standpoint, of course I don't want anyone to post anything explicitly illegal or their gross fetishes in this thread.

Well I think you deserved to be banned and wish the mod who banned you had deleted the thread as well. The issue isn't necessarily that it wasn't unacceptable for older men to marry 16 year old girls or that it shouldn't perhaps become acceptable again, but that the jews promoting pedophilia acceptance and general perversion are not doing so for principled purposes. I agree that women should be married and having kids by the time they're 20 or so, but whites have to get our societies sorted out first and perform thorough jew-removal before we will be able to reform our culture in such a manner.

You are a complete fucking idiot, as a Fascist you make me ashamed to be right-wing and anti-semitic please pick up a book rather than basing your political philosophy off of internet comments and posts you've read. If you're going to be a "traditionalist" then at least try to be consistent.

Listen man, that's a reform that can be made from within when the time comes, and I will be lobbying for it alongside you, but pushing it now, in the current unhealthy cultural climate we're in, is unproductive and plays into the jews' hands who push such things not for socially beneficial reasons, but to cause further division and enable them to exploit more children themselves. Focus on the jew, the other stuff can be saved for later.

Shut the FUCK up retard and go back to plebbit, I bet you could not even explain to me the various theological and judicial conflicts that cause Jewish and European enmity in the first place. Fags like you who have learned "politics" and "history" through internet comments they've read online are the absolute worst, and the reason why "White Nationalists" will always be nothing but complete losers and misfits and genetic waste that deserve nothing less than to be conpletely purged by any real Right-wing movement.

You think white nationalists are standing in the way of real right wing movements? You're jewish, aren't you?

>Romeo and Juliet
>pedophilia
Stop spreading this meme.

>University would sack Lewis Carroll as a child pornographer
He was a child pornographer.

It's anachronistic and ignorant to compare Greek paiderastia with contemporary pedophilia. It's an interesting topic to explore, but this thread is NAMBLA tier cringe and you should feel ashamed.

>as a Fascist you make me ashamed to be right-wing and anti-semitic
The degeneracy of this board never ceases to amaze me. Listen to yourself.

White Nationalism is essentially just a binary kind of perfunctory opposition that nonetheless scrupulously avoids addressing problems like belief structures, religious commitment, and the violence that capitalism does to cultures. It just calls for open-ended and ambiguous solidarity among White peoples because the alternative is worse. White people have a cultural problem, a theological problem, and a political problem and only addressing one of these things to the exclusion of the others isn't really constructive. Tere's no reason why a pointless, cosmopolitan, atheistic society of White people is better than the same kind of equally pointless but multiracial society that is promoted by the ruling class.

READ SOME ACTUAL THEORY, POLITICAL PHILOSOPHY AND HISTORY AND STOP BASING YOUR ENTIRE WORLDVIEW OFF OF THINGS YOUVE SEEN ON THE COMPUTER.

child pornography is a spook

Faggot, when kids ceased to be exploitable (partly under workers’ pressure), society “discovered” childhood as a totally distinct moment in life, one that has to be socialized and systematically taught (whereas before only a minority got some schooling). Over a century later, consumer society “discovered” teenagehood as a specific phase requiring special attention, and of course mobilizing its own experts. This society holds as a principle that sexual consent on the part of a child is not valid, because he can’t know what he really wants and needs. But his needs and wants are considered valid when they concern his right to buy and enjoy. In the very same way as the customer is said to be always right, so the child is supposed to be. The child exists as a separate category which is a sad caricature of the adult. A boy or girl of 5 is increasingly treated like the rest of us capitalized human beings: he or she is a consumer, and is given rights, which are of course imposed as much as guaranteed. A child’s rights are absolute as he is held irresponsible of anything.

When society, i.e. the State grants him its complete protection, it deprives him of any autonomy. He’s given every right, except the right to know what he wants, in other words the right that would give some content to all the other rights.

One of the worst things that can be done to a human being is to treat him as if he existed only in order to be protected. Worse still, if his acts are banned in the name of his own freedom

Slothrop had a thing for that one little girl breh. It kept popping up during the last like quarter of the book. And that nazi scientist shit.

>as a Fascist you make me ashamed to be right-wing and anti-semitic
I'm not drunk enough for this shit.

The point is that there are actually very good reasons to be anti-semitic (then being the enemies of Christ for one) but when you have /pol/ tards that don't even know WHY people are opposed to Jewish power in the first place and just sperg out about da JOOS constantly it makes their movement look pathetic

That's a creative speech, but it doesn't change the basic fact that children are weak, and that children are dumb, and that they are always at the mercy of adults' whims and desires. If an adult decides to fuck a child, it's a completely one-sided decision; there isn't such a thing as a child rejecting an adult. And no matter how hard you flex your rhetoric, you can't turn the base instinct of a parent to protect their child into an anti-natural contemporary construct. In fact, you seem to be under the delusion that children were these emancipated citizens in antiquity, when the truly modern notion at play here is consent itself. The will of girls and women, adult or children, was never accounted for in all of Western history, so the decision of when or who to marry was never theirs. Of course in Christianity heterosexual sex in wedlock was the only option, but even in Greece pederasty was not at all a mutual or even relationship. It was clearly a mentor-pupil kind of relationship, in which it's implicit that the child can't think or decide for themselves and therefore needs to be instructed.

>(whereas before only a minority got some schooling)
This is exclusively because of material reasons. The elites always schooled their children and education was highly valued.

>implying
You people have no taste

It kinda was, life expectency was lower but not that much lower. The thing that kills the curve is infant mortality, which is why families had more kids for so long.

>slavery is traditional, retard. Freedom as we know it is a creation of modern times. Most traditional societies, for better or worse, thought of slaves as property, and it wasn't until industrialization that a real differentiation was made. I'm Anglo-saxon and my great-great-grandfather had slaves his whole life.

The same logic would justify a strict regulation of adult sex relationships, which can involve violence. Let’s see for a moment adult sex as child-adult sex is usually perceived, i.e. only in its villainous and bloody aspects. Then any male should regard himself as a potential Jack The Ripper, and any wife should fear to be penetrated against her will by her husband every night.

Slavery IS traditional. Whether it's moral or not is not the question. I'm just pointing out obvious hypocrisy of modern traditionalists who picks and choose what they like.

Also, any present solution to the problem is wrong, because it is based on “child” and “adult” as they are currently defined. All we know is that a child is not a miniature adult. An insurmountable difference separates and binds them. The problem arises precisely because this distance gradually disappears as the child grows up, as it does not, for instance, between humans and animals.

What is to be done? Kids don’t live on another planet. There is a child sexuality, and even mutual seduction between child and adult, but everything is not possible at every age.

>anti-semitic

Why are you using this fake jewish word if you understand the jewish problem?

Reddit.com/r/the_donald might be more your speed

What? Seriously, why are you repeating fake jewish words and using your supposed enemy's language?

what nabokov actually said in defense of all his "tendencies" on focus in pedo stuff?

The word "anti-semite" was first coined in English in The Athenaeum in 1881. Judeo phobic, anti-Jewish, whatever you want to call it. Anti-Semite is apt, I am opposed culturally/theologically/politically to Jews.