Marx, Adorno, Horkheimer, Marcuse

Bullshit, he was the father of marco-economics, all economic theory since marx has been either a finesse on his theories or a reaction against them.

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Smith and Ricardo come to mind.

do you really think the person you're responding to is informed by facts and reason?

they probably cant find germany on a map

>he was the father of marco-economics

What does have to do with anything I've said?

If Marx is important and one of the most popular philosophers is because marxism was backed up by an estate. Without the Soviet Union Marx would be as unknown for pedestrians as any other philosopher. And for the academia the same. He would be like Fichte, Schelling, etc. He wouldn't be so influential on other thinkers (critics or followers).

Just like Christianism and the Roman Empire. Without the Roman Empire Jesus would be something like Apollonius of Tyana.

Marxism created a lot of momentum in Europe as well. Each and every Western European country had an influential Marxist party.

Because each and every European country was infested with jews who were trying to use the proles to overthrow the European elite. It was a jewish revolutionary ideology, and the place where it was most successful, Russia, led to the jewish slaughter of millions of Russians. If you're praising Marxism or communism and are not a jew, you are the epitome of the useful idiot.

Fuck off, /pol/.

Reporting.

Very undialectical post

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Lol ... oy vey don't't talk about the jewish genocide of millions of Russians, goyim!

The Kulaks chose to hoard the grain and to slaughter animals during a year of bad weather, they reaped what they sowed.

Get out of our countries and move to Israel, sick fuck Shlomo.

in the modern canonity of economic thought marx is regarded as utterly irrelevant.
also
>marco economics

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>some Nazis called themselves "We Bolsheviks of the Right" and so on.
>For example, I forgot who - in Italy, they claimed something along the lines of
this was written by Zizek

Is that satire? cereal question.

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This is an example of jewish psycopathy on steroids. Jews always pathologize anyone who criticizes them instead of entertaining the possibility that their actions are the reason everyone hates them and has always hated them. This myopia of the jewish mind is why they keep getting kicked out of other people's countries. But what can you expect from a cult that tells its members they have been chosen by god to rule the world? It's through this realization, that they will never stop doing this or take responsibility, that extermination starts to seem like a reasonable response to the jewish question. Jews suffer from a deep psychological and cultural sickness.

>We are completely against them. The complete opposite.
>look! They're the same!
>they borrowed our aesthetic
Welcome to Postmodernism 101

Yes, obviously. He would be a Chinese national.

A dog born in a stable is not a horse.

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Leftist movements were relatively large in industrialized countries by the start of WW1. In Germany, SPD was the largest party. In France, the marxist parties got around 20% of the vote. In UK, labour won 20% of the vote. In Italy, the socialists won 32% of the vote at the end of the war. In Finland, social democrats got 48% of the vote. In Netherlands, 18%. In Belgium, 30.8%. In Sweden, 36% and the position as the largest party.

By no means was leftism or marxism obscure at the time. Das Kapital was translated to all major European languages within a decade from its release: in comparison, the wealth of Nations was translated to German only in 1840s.

A man born, raised, educated in Germany, speaking German as his first language, spending his time with German peers and being engrossed by German culture can largely be considered Germans.

Marx and Adorno were raised in Christian households, and Marcuse in an atheist one. Horkheimer is the only major member to come from a practicing Jewish households.

Nope. Are you retarded or do you have no understanding of how genes work? They were jews and jews period. And all of those jews worked actively against Germans and German interests as well, so there's no gray area here either.

You nincompoop, Jew is an ethnic group now and forever. The group *has* a religion

lol

you don't actually believe this, do you?

How did Marx go against "German Interests"? He wanted the average German worker to be protected, for this to happen, all workers must be protected and markets must be destroyed

>Socialists put post-modernists in charge
>Their parties collapse and those that survive become neo-liberals
Really makes you think.

Nationalities, especially the 19th century variants, cannot be legimately considered genetic expressions. Germans were a mixed people at the time, most unified by a language than anything else.

> Worked against Germans and German interests
Since improving, or trying to, the conditions of life for majority of Germans is working against them? 40% of Germans voted for Marxist parties in 1920 - perhaps the Prussiaboo view of German interests as that of the interests of landed gentry and military is not all that accurate?

>for this to happen, all workers must be protected and markets must be destroyed

What could go wrong?

>N-N-N-N-NO TRUE SCOTSMAN!

A lot goes wrong with socialist projects yes, but capitalism won't be around forever, even soylent drinkers like Musk and Zuckerberg acknowledge that capitalism is reaching its limits.

Oh I agree, but if you think that socialism is going to replace capitalism you're going to be very disappointed.

perhaps the view that a person is permanently attached to one ethnic group solely based on his heritage is not very reprensative of the more cosmopolitan and mixed nature of europe in the 19th century, as Marx was by far more connected to Germany and its culture than he was to the jewish diaspora, especially since Germans at the time were a much more varied and dispersed grouping of people who largely identified themselves through their local cities and regions rather than through a German lens, especially when large portions of population in the Prussian rhineland felt that their culture was being repressed by the foreign Prussians who largely tried to reign in the feeling of German nation for their political ends while still acting against the catholic religion of (large portions of) German people and that they were a bit phony

Don't be a naive goy. Marx was working in the interests of his tribe, jews, who create and promote internal conflicts within their host nations, pitting classes against each other, women vs men, minorities, gays, etc. The whole point of Marxism and communism was to use the proles to overthrow the European aristocracy so jews could take power. That's what ultimately happened as well, since the European elite didn't understand what these jews were actually doing.

Nothing is more pathetic than German nationalism, it's like Ed Wood thinking he's a genius filmmaker.

Yes.

None of those were jewish. They were descendants of jews.

>Socialists put post-modernists in charge
What? Do you honestly believe that postmodernists ever gained large political power in the Western world?

>even soylent drinkers like Musk and Zuckerberg acknowledge that capitalism is reaching its limits.
Apart from what they want to replace capitalism with is literally "hyper-capitalism with a stipend".

Perhaps, but I would argue that fighting for socialism, even if impossible, must be done, just as Guts must try to kill Griffith.

>None of those were jewish. They were descendants of jews.

I should have clarified that it is capitalism in its current form which cannot be sustained, rather than the whole of capital itself.

>Germans were a mixed people at the time
Germans, along with the French, Scandinavians and others, are Germanic peoples. You have no clue what you're talking about.

>Since improving, or trying to, the conditions of life for majority of Germans is working against them?

I just answered just but will repeat how sad it is that people are still this naive. When jews took over Russia using this supposed goodwill of the people, they turned around and slaughtered them. Wake up, buddy.

You can't escape your heritage. Citizenship is only so much paperwork.

So what you're saying is there is no inherent antagonism between worker and boss?

> Marx was working in the interests of his tribe, jews
"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew.

Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew.

What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.

The Jew has emancipated himself in a Jewish manner, not only because he has acquired financial power, but also because, through him and also apart from him, money has become a world power and the practical Jewish spirit has become the practical spirit of the Christian nations. The Jews have emancipated themselves insofar as the Christians have become Jews.

In the final analysis, the emancipation of the Jews is the emancipation of mankind from Judaism."

- Karl Marx, on the Jewish question

There is tension in everything, but the issue is jews exacerbating those tensions and creating ideologies around them to use disaffected people, be they proles, women, non-whites, etc., as their army. This is what jews do.

But they did not have the heritage? They grew up in the German communities, speaking German, interacting with the Germans, going to Christian masses, studying in German universities under German professors and writing their theses on the matters of German philosophy, aside from Horkheimer. What is the legacy of Judaism here again, other than the absurd notion that their genetics formed their national identity.

So, are you saying that the exploitation of working classes is not an issue in a society?

More importantly, wrote most of their important works in the German language, in dialogue with other German language philosophers...

Uh, yes? the French !post-modernists drove their socialist parties off a cliff edge, spent a couple of years crying over how they missteered then embarrassed themselves so hard several key actors killed themselves over the next decade.

Jews are deeply tribal and have a dual morality. What they tell the goyim is only one part of the equation.

No, I'm saying there is a third party of middle easterners that exploits tensions, makes them worse, and uses them for their own benefit.

How on earth is that true? Marx was closer to being an English philosopher than a Russian one. At least he could write and speak in English.

Marx was explicitly writing in the German Tradition

Who’s is exactly why the CIA pushed Foucault in America so hard

Chinese can definitely be viewed as a multiethnic identity, as defined by their government for a while. The Qing used multiethnicity to justify their conquest and attempted assimilation of Turks, Mongols, Tibetans, Burmese, etcetera.

"Chinese" is the citizenship/nationality. "Han" or "Tang" is the proper ethnonym for the "Chinese" race, just like the difference between being a Bavarian ethnically and a German legally.

Weird then that the French, English, and American revolutions had already happened before Marx was born....

Depends on if that child were raised in China or Ireland, or anywhere else for that matter.

Nations are homelands for distinct peoples. They do not mean anything different than they ever have because jews have spent the last 50 years telling whites our homelands are proposition nations.

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China has always been a multinational empire.

China has always been a Han dominated state for ethnic Chinese people. Put the glass jewish ideological kool-aid down. Jews promote multiculturalism because it's good for jews.

Aside from France, which I had in mind but skipped over, no other left wing party that had strong academic post-modern wing gained power in the cold war. In UK, labour was killed by its overt trade unionism and hardline positioning. In Italy, CCP was killed by its links to terrorism and failure to effectively challenge the base of Christian-democrats. Brandt and Schmidt were pretty traditional social democrats, and in Sweden, the vision of classic social democracy was challenged by the right, not the left, largely.

So do you have empirical facts to back those assertions about Marx? Something to proove the statement that he worked in favor of the Jews?

You mean besides the fact that he was a jewish high priest whose ideology sparked revolutionary fervor in jews across Europe, led to jewish-led bolshevik coup attempts in Germany and elsewhere, and propelled the jews to power in Russia, where they immediately slaughtered the royal family and the aristocratic class? Use your noggin here, buddy.

You ever been to China? There's a ton of White expatriots living and raising their families there. The children consider themselves Chinese, not American, Australian, Canadian or wherever their parents came from .

Not him, but I have lived in China and known many expat families, and you couldn't be more wrong. No white family living in China considers themselves Chinese and would laugh at you if you asked them if they did.

There's plenty of examples of liberals injecting post modern politics into socialist campaigns, do you not remember the occupy movement? it literally became a hive of villainy when they implemented identity politics stacks.

> where they immediately slaughtered the royal family and the aristocratic class
1. The royal family was executed 9 months after the revolution, under the threat of the prisoners being rescued by the white forces approaching the city where they were being held
2. The aristocratic class largely evacuated Russia during the war, with 3 million Russians making it into Western Europe

? Jews murdered many members of the royal family and the Russian upper class, which was not comprised of 3 million people.

how is occupy movement linked to postmodernism

how is postmodernism linked to identity politics

be precise here: post-modernism was a relatively short lived academic movement in Western Europe in the late 60s and early 70s, not a general boogeyman

92% of the population of China is Han Chinese. China, like several other Asian countries, also has very strict immigration policies, so they're evidently not as enthusiastic about "multi ethnicity" as you are.

>how is the politics that denies basic sciences linked to the ideology that objectivity and absolutes

>tfw you attempt to merge a entire paragraph into a meme arrow and still manage to fuck it up
Kill me.

What?

Can you perhaps demonstrate empirical links between postmodernism/post-structuralism and Occupy? Occupy protest leaders speaking with postmodernist terminology or quoting Foucalt or something.

German-Jews are ethnically German they have more German blood than a lot of Irish-Germanics do. You fucking anti-semite

So China is less Han Chinese than France is French, and yet the latter gets a rep for a multicultural country?

Its not like that the Chinese consitution states that China is a multicultural country. Or that the Chinese nation is composed of 56 ethnic groups. Or that those groups' rights are protected and some of them are granted autonomy through their local provinces. Or that the minorities have affirmative action to benefit them, are except from one child policy and have tax benefits.

This is the actual end of this thread.

"The Jew evaluates German questions from the Jewish standpoint".

>heritage
Empty, meaningless notion.

German jews, Moroccan jews, Chinese jews, or any other kind of jew is a jew first and foremost. Part of being a jew is engaging in crypsis and mimicking the host. Educate yourself on the JQ, retard.

That's right, goyim, gather around the deracinated globalist consumer identity your jewish allies are creating for you and you'll be able to live happily ever after as a mixed race brown person with no identity or heritage in our borderless utopia.

>If you have jewish ancestors then you automatically become part of a borg-like collective that acts upon hardwired borg instintics which behave in a parasitic manner towards a certain host group
>basically every thought, opinion and action of a person is predestined by your genes which you absolutely share with every member of your ethnic/linguistic/religious/cultural group
I still can't decide if the pathalogical mindset of a stormfag is hilarious or terryfiying

What you don't understand are the in-group pressures jews have undergone in their past to become as tribal as they are today. Look up some accounts of jews slaughtering their own children to keep them from being baptized -- that's dedication. Jews aren't individualistic like Europeans, it's tribe first always -- "Is it good for the jews?"

German-Jews specifically, please pay attention you fucking subhuman NIGGER, have more Germanic blood from Germans that their ancestors intermarried with than a large number of """"""""""""""""German-Irish""""""""""""""" in America. In fact its so obvious that German-Jews are basically Judaized lower class Germans that if you look at older Germans faces and compare them to very gentile looking German-Jews you often cannot tell the difference at all. 3 examples of this are: David Rockefeller, James Woolesy, Hugh Hefner all Germanic no Jewish blood, but they look Jewish. Rupert Murdoch is another who looks Jewish but is actually Anglo-Saxon, and his Germanic heritage makes him look like an Ashkenazi. But he's really just a WASP. YOu're a fucking schizophrenic parasite, a retard, the lowest kind of intellectual. You add NOTHING you contribute NOTHING you and your ilk have RUINED this website and many others, you're all shills and you're going to all regret being so stupid in 20 years when we have no ways out of this fucking prison because your stupid fake nazism was a cover for CORPORATE FASCISM. you stupid fucking nigger subhuman ingrate

Pic related.

The type of mental illness exhibited by this poster is very common among "the tribe."

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