Literary fiction in crisis as sales drop dramatically

theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/15/literary-fiction-in-crisis-as-sale-drop-dramatically-arts-council-england-reports

Is literature destined to be another niche art form like opera that only elderly people and snobby bougies engage in? It seems like the only way to save literature is by stopping the advancement of electronic media.

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>[serious fiction] will be a ‘conservatoire’ form, practised by young ladies and gentlemen, and followed by a select group … like classical music or easel painting
Isn't that how it should be? Genre for the masses, litfic for a patrician few? If litfic had mass commercial appeal, it wouldn't be litfic anymore.

> Outside of the top 1,000 authors (at most), printed book sales alone simply cannot provide a decent income

1,000 is a good number for a heavily saturated market such as this.

>theguardian.com/books/2017/dec/15/literary-fiction-in-crisis-as-sale-drop-dramatically-arts-council-england-reports
>he hasn't read Brave New World
>Access to elevated form of art is restricted to a selected elite while the masses consume mindless entertainment

>It seems like the only way to save literature is by stopping the advancement of electronic media
Good thinking, OP. Publishers should just lobby governments to ban smartphones and maybe shut down the internet and all their problems would be over!

Or, y'know, they could maybe possibly think about adapting. But that would be crazy, of course.

There is no adapting, visual print culture cannot be sustained in a electronic media environment.

So put the words on a screen ya dip

Novels as a form will not be able to survive, the 'literature' of the future will be bleak micro-memoirs written by teens about their lives filled with internet-mediated filth written in lowercase and posted anonymously as grainy iPhone Notes screencaps and then lost in the slipstream forever.

Book sales have never really provided a decent income unless you were Stephen King or someone of that mold.

I’m okay with this.

lol Disney shareholders don't give a fuck, and they're the ones who matter.

Publishing companies have alienated the most prolific readers in white men and publish trash. The problem starts at the top.

i guess they should have published me then. maybe i could have saved them.

>Is literature destined to be another niche art form like opera that only elderly people and snobby bougies engage in?
Isn't that a good thing?

sounds great

>muh identity politics
pls stop you're killing Veeky Forums

There's no other type of politics in a multicultural nation. Don't like identity politics? Promote the removal of non-whites.

Please stop. Even if you are just doing this ironically, you are nevertheless shitposting and actively lowering post quality for no reason whatsoever.

>Access to elevated form of art is restricted to a selected elite while the masses consume mindless entertainment
Its literally always been like that unless you think 3rd century AD Roman plebs sat around reading the Aeneid for fun. There was a very brief historical moment where some well meaning people guilted by Charles Dickens tried to get the poor dum dums to be smart but turns out being dumb is more fun and so they all just joined in.

Excuse me? You are denying reality and then pretending that other people are lowering the standards here? Your delusion is better suited for reddit.

It helps no one to be reductive.

BKLYN

You need to stop posting here until you're better at coping with reality.

That's what happens when you push the entire "whites are bad" agendas through every fucking page of the newest novel. You're black? Perfect you're published.

Literature will not face the same fate as operas because it is still alive and well and will be for a long time. 1000 is a good number--I don't care that the Jewish Marxist Inc. can't sell his manifesto on white meanies, nor do I think the majority of serious readers do.

>le reality meme
This is literature board, go sperg out and post your off topic shit somewhere else.

Most of all I think this is what you get when technology is frying people's brains. Some can't even watch an 8 minute video, it's too long

youre a cunt mate

You're as deep as a bowl of soup, and your tongue is as sharp as a soup spoon.

Way too many books by white men. Who wants to read that?

>That's what happens when you push the entire "whites are bad" agendas

And let's not forget who the "you" is here.

Well he didn't go on a politics tangent. He simply said current politics affect literature, and there's no denying that.

There’s plenty of denying that, atleast where I live. Might be different in anglo land, though.

Will anybody miss literature?

Yet Jews depend on the true pure genius of the white man.

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Read siege by James Mason dude. NS revolution is the only thing standing between us and total feminization and mongrelisation. If you remain neutral to the problem, don't blame me if you end up your life as a slave in a society lorded over by blue haired, dildo wielding genderblobs

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this

>publish absolute garbage for decades, passing it off as "literary fiction"
>tryto pass off neoliberal groupthink as hip and "avant-garde", even though the same propaganda is pumped into western society on an hourly basis.
>shit on the demographic that purchases books the most, middle and upper class white people
>WHY ARE WE GOING UNDER?
If you're surprised you need to read a fucking book.

>he thinks the upper middle class doesn’t buy lit because it “shits on them”
you pathetic insipid child

>medium does not matter

The absolute state of Veeky Forums.

The jews hate identity politics?

This is a faulty analysis. The problem is cultural, not political. Mass entertainment is more accesible and cheaper than books due to the proliferation of consumer electronics. Literature was always too complex for the average man and nowadays he is free to express his disdain for things he does not understand, as the modern consumerist society has no culture, no aesthetical authority outside of the individual.

American Literary fiction went to shit in the 90s and 00s, and it was upper class white liberals who were to blame. The twee scribblers of the bush era, i.e. Franzen DFW, Safran Foer, that insufferable Eggers faggot were the clearest predecessors to today's cultural Marxist sj zeitgeist. Nobody has the attention span for their whiny phonebooks anymore, so the same scum who used to read the has easily gone over to the instant satisfaction afforded by virtue signaling and identity politics.

Nice ad hom, Kill yourself.

Nobody with half a brain or the money to buy books wants to read anything published in the last twenty years. Literary fiction used to be either genuine explorations of human life or sincere diagnoses of contemporary times. Nobody getting published today has anything interesting to say.

Yours is more faulty and the post is explaining something cultural.

>Identity politics
>Feeling the need of writing trilogies instead of stand alones
>Readers themselves are pompous assholes who can't think beyond NOT MUH

Sounds like you should read Knausgård and houellebecq maybe.

Fucking nailed it.

Nailed what?

Fiction readers were always massively WOMEN. Novel was looked down upon, since it was a trivial form of entertainment, far removed from the height of philosophy or history. Male readership appeared briefly for two fucking century and even today most fiction readers are female.

Fucking uneducated pleb blaming the Jews while not realising that, if anything, they are already retarded to the point if their delusion was real it would already be too late anyway since their collective intelligence and culture have hit rock bottom.

You must a woman :)

He's actually right though, women were usually the one reading literature. High brow stuff like what Veeky Forums wanks over (rightfully) was always the hobby of a snobbish academic elite, so the headline "people buy less books" actually boils down to "thots stopped reading treshy softporn novels because they found another distraction"

This is the stupidest thing I read all day. If everyone in the US was white, then people would just look for other things to separate them (region, ancestral country, occupation, religious sect, and maybe even biology). People like creating in and out groups in their immediate environment, it's an evolutionary strategy.

Brown people are nice, talk to one.

It's impossible to communicate with them, just like those gay trannies, they can only communicate through evil screeching and tell you to check your privilege. These "people" hate you whiteman, and they want to enslave your family.

Statistically speaking someone who's darker than me is way more likely to rob or attack me. Do you also play the lottery?

Listen, I know this sounded real funny in your head, but stop it, it's just lowering post quality.

>Brown people are nice

AYYO MUH MAYNE, THAS RITE! WE AINT DO NUFFIN BAD NIGGA!
>robs you
>kills you for your watch
>doesn't work
>leeches your tax money

HAHA MAH MAYNE!

Why is this board so nigger-loving? When did Reddit get this intense?

If a white guy has a chance of 0,1 promille to rob me and a black guy has a chance of 0,5 promille to rob me then your statement is both true and irrelevant. Dunno what lottery has to do with this, but people are usually invidiuals anyway and you should try to interact with them on a case by case basis.

Individualism is an European innovation, non european people's like blacks, Indians, transgenders and homosexuals are tribal and resentful by nature. To the, the interests of the tribe come first, hence they are unable to produce true literature, which to them is only just another means to extort whitey through guilt trips and emotional blackmail

maudlin

Creative writing programs have birthed a class of artists who are aggressively dull. None of them have anything interesting or meaningful to say.

>non european people's like blacks, Indians, transgenders and homosexuals
I, uh, what?

>individualism is an european innovation
It trickles down.

Is this an automated response by a bot? What does any of that have to do with how likely people are to rob you? Being individuals does not mean rampant individualism, it means that a person is not defined by statistics.

imbecile

Except white males they are all evil and tainted by original sin

Good thing Big J died for that then.

Nice argument dude, we all know we have hit rock bottom: cultural and social decline, so don't be a negative Nancy and don't go around bashing the people who dare to offer creative solutions. I myself am just a white pursuing his rational self interest, and that means I will refuse to debase myself before the screeching victim classes

Actually, in most places in the world, stuff like living standards, education, general wealth, safety, peace, technological advancements, health are on the highest level in human history.

You're referring to innovation created by white people that has lifted brown people up and created new industries. The other poster is I assume referring to whites and white nations specifically being in decline due to internal attacks jews.

>The other poster is I assume referring to whites and white nations specifically being in decline due to internal attacks jews.
But that is contradictory to the fact that white nations are flourishing.

The culture in white nations has become a jewish porn culture, we owe more debt to jewish banks than can ever be paid back, we're being invaded by the millions, and every other metric as well indicates the opposite of 'flourishing.' You're being lied to to keep the scam going.

>USA
Oh, uh, good luck bro.

We're gonna need it. Helter Skelter, death to the pigs, Animal to Animal. It's the only way, man.
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You coud first try getting money out of politics, that might help you out a bit faster than chasing jews around. Oh, you just elected a business man president, whoopsy doodle.

We all know Trump is a Shabbos goy and a Lubavitcher plant. The revolution won't happen through the Ballot, James Mason was well aware of this. We. Need a skinhead army to destroy the US government, to snuff out the capitalist system and smash ZOG once and for all. the night of helter smelter followed by the year of the rope, and then, Year Zero. Pol Pot was a real natsoc revolutionary and right about those city people btw.

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This. March on Rome 2.0.

>We. Need a skinhead army to destroy the US government
Gee, who could be behind this post?

I think is becoming harder to concentrate/focus on just reading too much external stimuli like all the social media likes, notifications and messages. Audiobooks are probably more adapted to this generation so yes, it will be like a little niche for those old nostalgic fags that like to read on paper.

>Implying uneducated masses are a good thing in a democratic country

>coulda had an interesting discussion
>/pol/ showed up again
This board's pretty much over and that saddens me tbph

This but unironically

I don't get it. So you're upset people are talking about the actual reasons for the problem, which is jewish ownership of the publishing industry and use of it to promote shit?

I don't believe literary fiction sales were ever that high but I suspect the UK has an issue making literary fiction appealing to consumers. We have one major bookstore chain (two if you're being generous and counting WHSmith) and thus exposure to new and exciting forms of literary fiction is low. Waterstones just put any old shit on their front desks and act with the equivalence of up-selling popcorn when it comes to promoting books. I've worked there and you're actively told not to recommend titles outside of a select few because they have to hit their targets. It's a crying shame.

Plus, new books are usually overly political. I get why but when people's daily lives are infiltrated by constant forms of political discussion (as is usually promoted through social media) the one thing literature need not do is engage with similar topics. It could be an effective counterpoint to questionable rhetoric but it's not. It's merely an extension of exhaustion. People turn away. If you're going to do it then at least be sneaky about it.

should /pol/tards be castrated?

Jokes on you, I'm male and I'm on my way to go and see my future publisher, who happens to be a woman and whom I'm going to fuck silly.
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Dunno, genre fiction doesn't really educate people, does it?

Definitely. I used to be /pol:, but /pol/tards inability to engage in discussion outside their ideoogical framework is disgusting. The fact we're in a literature board and some unironiclaly used the term cultural marxism is disgusting. You have to be incredibly patjetic of a person to be completely uninterested in literature but still decide to shit up the literature board on christmas.

Are you by any chance making a mockery of the talented Snowqueens Icedragon?

Liar or non-white detected.

No need to. Nobody is going to touch them anyway.

Stop trolling, it's pathetic.

>56% face

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I like to imagine his tiny little penis buried in pubic hair

What's wrong with the term 'cultural Marxism'? The use of deliberately inflammatory terminology has worked wonders for you leftoids. Even the most inoffensive things are now fascist and white supremacist. So why can't we get in the fun? To be fair, I have read and appreciate much of the work of the Frankfurt school, Marx and the situationist international, which is more what you can say of most 'leftists'. Now it is those 'leftists' who are destroying art and literature, as a lover of art and literature I have found myself driven to the radical right.

>the radical right.
Still using their terminology there though. The "far right" is really the natural center across space and time. Jews merely corrupted our language and ideals and pushed an actual radical agenda through their ownership of our cultural institutions over the last 50 years that they were able to dupe a generation and half their children into believing the center was something different than what it has historically been, is, and is returning to as the pendulum swings back.

It's because of [insert obvious /pol9k/ boogeyman]