WHERE THE FUCK IS OUR 2017 TOP 100 LIST

The fact that IJ dropped from the 1st place in 2016 perfectly coincides with the redditor influx (culture of critique, peterson, memes gallore, ...).
What a dreck this place has become.

Because contemporary books are garbage and deserve no recognition

Its gotten better. I remember back when there were daily threads on the Gulag Archipelago. The /pol/edditors are gradually seeing the light

Someone did it some month ago, but everyone dismissed it.

the Veeky Forums(reddit)cord released a """"""""""""""""""""Veeky Forums"""""""""""""""""""" Top 100 for 2017 and it was utter shit. IJ was at like #40

That's because it was a hoax orchestrated by low IQ discord homos

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Well, maybe it's time to organize a better one.

IJ is fucking awful. People like you who haven't stopped posting about it since the noughts need to fuck off, it's simply posturing. Posturing simply, simply-put.

If I wanted to hear a redditors opinion I'd have gone to reddit

>using discord to gossip about anonymous posters
>using discord for anything other than staying in touch with friends who you don’t want to text with

>implying it’s not the defining work of the turn of the millennia
Imagine being this much of a brainlet.

Was that out earlier this year? If I recall, Bible was 1, Shakespeare was 2 and fucking Finnegans Wake was 3

in the garbage where it belongs

i-is Veeky Forums back?

You're already here.

It has some social importance - it's like watching bored yuppie sadboys wake up to the fact that it's hard to watch all that TV and porn :'(. It's vapid entertainment-bashing, rather than going for the bigger picture -- it's what milquetoast liberals do to "rock the boat".

Why would you want your board to be the same for another decade? Sorry we're not talking about that radical book you read as an undergraduate like ten years ago, when you could really impress a broad with the sheer WEIGHT of that DOORSTOPPER.

There is no fucking bigger picture that's the problem and why Infinite Jest is so important. You can have all the esoteric and high minded discourse you want in their appropriate ghettos but you're still a trapped and empty being if you have no way of connecting that consciousness with regular life without reverting to a sad ironic memer.

It's funny that you've completely made DFW into an ironic sad meme then. There is only "esoteric and high-minded discourse" to those unwilling to do anything remotely political outside of shitting on "consumerism"... the resources are there for you, you need only come out and reach for it.

>I don't care about the books, I just like seeing them arranged into different orders

Dostoevsky is timeless and is still one of our most favored authors. I'll concede on the point about french lit, but DFW's revival has been trivial since he's never lost our attention.

Incredibly important? Hardly. user it's all minutiae at this point

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>is sensitive about the word consumerism
this board and Veeky Forums have the most normalfags by far

reddit.com/r/raerth/comments/cpxkq/reddits_favourite_books/c0udvs9/
>ctrl f infite jest
>crypto redditors on Veeky Forums perennially btfo

>Camus at #2
IJ is awful and you have shit taste!

>sensitive about the word consumerism
Literally what? I just think DFW is full of platitudes and, generally, just a cowardly person. He goes for the low-hanging fruit, not for the crest of the tree.

No /pol/ does you fucking moron

>the resources are there for you, you need only come out and reach for it
I don't think DFW is bad, I just think he is average and average against several thousand years of the great writers is not a flattering comparison. I liked his articles he wrote. I enjoyed them for exactly what they were, a reasonably well written document to read on a lazy Sunday and forget about its existence afterwards. However the 1000 page novel only magnifies his mediocre talents. It's one thing to make a book that requires rereading and critical thought to align events and to sort out the timeline but I wouldn't call it a success if the book was so turgid that as soon as I finished I would never return nor think about it again. To this I would compare him to Pynchon.
Also his short stories are dogshite. The very best of them is at best average and that isn't many of them.

holy fuck i can't even imagine having this shit of taste
if i could but with one hand sink all of discord into the sea

>ctrl f infite jest
>crypto redditors on Veeky Forums perennially btfo
But half of lit has always hated DFW.

>to do anything remotely political

See you're already missing the God damn point, this has so much more to do than mere politics. """ Political action""" is part of the problem, its as bad as just going to Marvel films

what is it with dfwposters being the same kind of memeing retards like frogposters are
your saint is turning in his grave

It's the same as all the real ones minus the jokes, the memes of the moment and the books chosen by the new people which might account for only 20 of the results.

How do I know you're some yuppie who just uses DFW's boring, milquetoast lifestyle to justify their own?

t. discordfag

Veeky Forums is actually /tv/-levels of bad, so I'm not surprised that any/all hardworking OC makers have left the board.

>/tv/
>bad

Why care? What's wrong with a milquetoast lifestyle. Why does any of this fucking matter to you?

>thinks that Harry Potter and Vonnegut deserve to be on the list
Not that I am but I would rather be a discordfag than whatever the hell you are.

its pathetic, you live once and that’s it. there is no afterwards to make up for being a coward while still here

>as bad as just going to Marvel films
damn, so woke about the popular media

i don’t count reddit outposts as boards user

You keep throwing around this term coward like it actually means something in this context.

Why is it pathetic, why not be a "coward"?
You see the problem here is exactly the type of LARPer attitude that he was writing against. You're not actually living you're just looking for an easy performance to fantacize is what really matters while I bet like so many you neglect your actual family, social relations and daily exchanges because nothing on the ground can really matter to you. They don't count because they're not part of the "big picture". You can be a reactionary high minded hero in your mind while jacking off to porn and being just as much of an atomized bugman as the people you loath. Because their reality counts but yours doesn't just because you don't engage with it

Vonnegut and even Harry Potter are unironically better than the thirty or so japshit you discordfags forced onto your list

Its all popular media that's the problem. The retards posting in the Trump general on /pol/ are just as bad as any nu-male talking about star wars. Its why """street battles""" look like comic con

>Vonnegut better than anything
wanna know how i know you are also lowkey buttmad about the exclusion of murakami as well?

are you Matthew Bellamy's ghostwriter or something

Holy fuck this list
lol just lol

I don't know who that is but epic zinger buddy, you should have a sitcom

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It dropped three fucking spots.
Redditor influx doesn't change the chart because those people don't read, they just meme on about NRx and Peterson.

Discordfags are SEETHING in this thread

this isn't canon

>not that I am
>calls me one anyway
Also there are only seven entries by Japanese authors, not 30. Just so everyone can see how much of a pleb you are you are saying that Vonnegut and even Harry Potter are better than Kawabata, Mishima, Dazai, Ōe, Tanizaki, Endo, and Sōseki
As I said before I may not be a discordfag but I would rather be one than what you are.

You do know the post says so itself right?

>only seven

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nae cunt on Veeky Forums reads literature.

the generic academic literature canons have been shpeeled out for years as top 100 lists . Veeky Forums doesn't even attend academic institutions anymore.

just read 2017's list, you needy fuck.

bunch of numpties

This is the sort of list that dilettantes makes when asked to make a list of 'good' books

QUICK, BEFORE I'M FORCED TO FORM MY OWN OPINION!

Okay I missed one, it's eight. Miscounting is better than thinking that JK Rowling should be on the lit list.

map of meaning was pretty good

This is the sort of list that gets made on a board with a low user base and and even lower voting base only get a couple of votes to choose books they really like.

>Shakespeare is one entry
>Homer is one entry
>Anna Karenina at 4 and before The Brothers Karamazov
>Finnegans Wake at 5
>2666 in the fucking top 25
>all of this japanese lit
>Euripides in front of Sophocles and Aeschylus (again all three just three entries)
>Everything That Rises Must Converge instead of A Good Man is Hard to Find
>Frankenstein in the top 50
>Infinite Jest at 42 just to be contrarian
>the back 30 are just atrocious besides a few (like The Aeneid which is way out of place)
>no Lolita
>no Fitzgerald or Hemingway
the absolute STATE of the "Veeky Forums"cord
the sad thing is you know they are actually serious about this too lel

so was the second harry potter book and 50 shades of grey

>>Anna Karenina at 4 and before The Brothers Karamazov
dostofags are truly the bronies of literature

delete this

>Shakespeare is one entry
Because including everything he ever wrote isn't good enough.
>Anna Karenina at 4 and before The Brothers Karamazov
Unironically thinking that Dosto is a better writer than Tolstoy. Disgusting.
>all of this japanese lit
Better than all the meme shit they got rid of to make room for it
>Euripides in front of Sophocles and Aeschylus (again all three just three entries)
It might surprise you to know but outside of Nietzsche's echo chamber lots of people really love Euripides more than the other two. Also you are complaining about the entire Euripides and the complete Oresteia being a single entry. Perhaps you wanted an entry for every single poem that someone wrote, that way we can have Shakespeare occupy the entire list. Are you autistic?
>Infinite Jest at 42 just to be contrarian
No user, having it in there at all is contrarian. Having it at number 1 is just pleb.
>no Fitzgerald or Hemingway
Of all of the worlds great authors you cry because these two aren't in it. Who the fuck thinks that Hemingway deserves to be on here but doesn't mention someone like Racine?

Not again, there was I guess two threads about it and every user was discussing if the list of "some year" was fake or if wasn't. It was a mess, it's nonsense try to do another one, because some user's can adulterat the votes.

Discordfags should be gassed. Your list is rigged, fuck off, don't call it Veeky Forums's top 100 when a tiny fraction of board voted on it.

Hey, here's an idea for a meaningful list. How about we make a top 100, but forbid voting for the books from the older lists? That way we'd create a fairly original selection that might draw people to lesser known but still important and valuable books and writers.

Also we might make top 50 lists specifically for lyric poets, dramas and comics, stuff that is usually ignored in favour of big meme novels and epics

at least use a trip so I can filter (You)

>Discordfags should be gassed
I'm not a discordfag.
>Your list is rigged
It's not my list.
>don't call it Veeky Forums's top 100 when a tiny fraction of board voted on it
I didn't call it anything.
>inb4 you're lying and you are a discordfag

>someone called me out on being a pleb, somebody do something about it
You are responding to two people by the way, not one. Also encouraging trip fags, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Absolutely Haram

tripfagging is an excellent way to allow me to never see they're shit posts ever again.
Call it selfish but works on my machine. Veeky Forums is dead anyway.

Because old Veeky Forums had a level of discourse that was above the entry-level humanities course that this board has become.

>entry-level humanities course
I wish lit were like that. Pol is fundamentally anti-academic, the r9k crowd is also mostly. It's hard to have a serious discussion when a citation or a link is to an academic and the response is some Jewish conspiracy against white people.

I really don't understand those people. Is it that they've consumed everything available in their echo chamber, and now they need to strike out in the wider world for validation? I imagine that they gravitate to lit because they see it as being full of intelligent people and they'll be in good company, but when they're presented with evidence that their bat-shit ideas won't gain traction, rather than slink away in shame they double down harder. What possesses people to do this?

It's sad that the parasites have started to overtake the host. The discourse on lit is driving away posters that actually care about literature, and every day the catalogue's literature threads are diluted with more and more bullshit. Combine that with mods that just don't give a shit, and you're witnessing the demise of a board culture.

Sincerely fuck off to reddit both of you. There's a reason this board is anti-Academic and its because academics are worthless and themselves anti-intellectual. You may not believe in the Jewish control of the academy but if you deny the intense politicized component of the humanities then you're utterly deluded

See? They lack even basic self-awareness! The Literature board is anti-academic? The fucking literature board? You really need to stop parroting and have a long look at yourself, because this is just sad. The unexamined life is not worth living.

>but if you deny the intense politicized component of the humanities
>I can believe anything I want without evidence because of political elements in a part of academia
Truly said by someone who knows nothing about academia or the peer review system. Instead of whining that some girl said something you didn't like maybe you should spend your time on the academics who do good work which you would know if you read them. Or perhaps you could read the objections people have to the papers you don't like which is an easy thing to do because everything is peer reviewed.

The discord is a friend simulator full of highschoolers who play quiz bowl. Imagine an echo chamber of fifty butterflies and feministers and you’ll have an idea of what it’s like

>intense politicized component of the humanities
Except pol hate all forms of academia which disagrees with them including the fields that are not subject to increase in liberalism. They have to hate science because otherwise they can't justify their racism and sexism.

Well that would require curiosity and intellectual effort. It's so much easier to accept the simple idea that nothing can be known due to vague conspiracies, and that way their ignorance and close-mindedness can seem to them a virtue. They're standing in a tide pool while shouting into the ocean about their personal depth.

>not liking Camus or DFW
control your brainlet level

Yeah because you can't possibly open up a book without the great academys approval.
You're a duped fool

>They have to hate science because otherwise they can't justify their racism and sexism.

lol imagine actually believing this

Let's head over to /pol/ and attempt to renew interest in phrenology. I think they'll bite.

Phrenology is legit