Naomi Klein

Probably will devolve into /pol/ shit, but thoughts on this book? I just read it and it’s quite shocking to say the least

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Well researched and informed, I think more people should read it to know what's really going on. Be sure to check out the follow up This Changes Everything.

/Pol/ tards will deride this thread simply by doing (((Klein)))

That's ridiculous. *klein* is a German surname, so she could be a shiksa for all we know

Would honestly feel embarrassed having something like this on my shelf

It looks like flashy, lowest-common denominator clickbait in book form

Why are so many non-fiction books like this?

> I don’t like the cover so here are my assumptions
Vapid

She’s such a boring thinker

I haven't read it, do you wanna give me the basic gestalt? What does she argue for?

Naomi Klein is a jewess with a strong jewish identity, and a jewish husband. Yet, she is against identity among europeans, and is doing all she can to impose extreme individualism and the destruction of group cohesion on them.

Why would you care about an obvious hypocrite who's strongly opposed to your people?

I haven't read it either, but I've seen the basic ideas laid out a few times, I believe. Klein basically says that the standard operating procedure of neoliberalism and globalized capitalism is now to use huge crises, either naturally occurring or manufactured, to push through radical change, usually something that enriches management at the expense of labor and takes away freedoms. Her big example of this was all the surveillance laws passed directly after 9/11, and also the aggressive gentrification of New Orleans that took place after Hurricane Katrina.

>That's ridiculous. *klein* is a German surname, so she could be a shiksa for all we know
That is 100% true, however:
>There is name for Jews like me. I am called a “self hating Jew.” You see, Jews are not allowed to dislike other Jews, to disapprove of mainstream diaspora opinions, or to criticize Israeli policy in anything other than a strictly Jewish forum, without being accused of self hatred."
I still do not trust her. They always play both sides of the fence - even anti-Semitism.

How is this opposed to /pol/? Is it just the jewishness because that sounds like it would mesh just fine with an isolationist identitarian polity, which is fairly commonplace over there.

Boring. Most of the book is Wikipedia article on shock therapy retold with some more historical flavor. Analysis is pretty basic and shallow.

klein is not an economist and clearly doesn't know what she's talking about.

nysun.com/arts/shock-jock/63867/
economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2007/10/naomi_klein_smackdown_roundup

Jews typically don't, they're middle eastern swindlers.

What a surprise.

A lot of Ashkenazi Jews have German surnames. 90% of /pol/'s (((le meme))) moments are just pointing out German or Polish people.

Except his assessment is right, Ms. Klein.

Nah not this one. Her new one, defintely so. Haven't read that but it looks like real pandering.

This one and No Logo are god tier. People who don't agree with me are pseuds. I'm serious on this one Veeky Forums, she's good. Understand I say that as a near /pol/ack level of rightism

>I say that as a near /pol/ack level of rightism
So you you're at the "not all jews are bad" stage.

That was my impression too, from skimming the thing back when it first came out. Overall pretty unimpressive.

I've grown convinced Zionist elites backed the Nazis. Supposedly Goldman Sachs helped them launder money.

Got one page into this gem before deciding to drop it. Try pic related if you want to hear an original perspective with prose that doesn't suck

>zionist
>nazis
Your theory might be more convincing if you weren't using a code word for jews and a fake jewish word for Germans.

Naomi Klein is a SJW and climate-change alarmist. In spite of this there is some excellent information on psychological warfare in the Shock Doctrine. I can't advocate for any of her other works or activism though.

Cool ad-homs dudes. So because she is Jewish, you can't pick out the valuable information from a book and discard any biases, preferences and editorializing she may be presenting in her writing? Did you think about checking the citations maybe? And I know plenty about Jewish power and nepotism so don't call me a shill, I'm not a fan of Klein but Shock Doctrine is an excellent book.

>climate-change alarmist.
opinion Descarted

What's up with the garbage Americans today

One of the best analyses of capitalism you can find from an American liberal; she's a lot like Piketty but with far less rigor.

It's a great book though and Klein's association with mainstream politics and media gives her a platform not allowed to Marxists who make similar arguments.

>opinion Descarted
Cool fallacy dude. This is Veeky Forums, people are too smart for your bs sophistry.

>Ezra Levant
Opinion immediatly discarded

Klein's arguments are not that contradictory to basic /pol/ shit (excluding the Pinochet guys who worship capitalism) but she arrives at them from a leftist anti-establishment perspective, rather than Alex Jones/The Jews conspiracy shit

>woman author
>discussing pleb materialist matters like capitalism
>shit cover
Reading that book would be the intellectual equivalent of fucking a ladyboy hooker with trackmarks raw, you'd have to just blow past all the warning signs.

also in non-liberalized nations, like iraq, allende's chile, [prolly venezuala to some degree imo], exasperating and encouraging an existing crisis to establish 'american interests' which is a buzzword for enriching management and de-nationalizing major industries for western investor's to benefit

Many Zionists literally did support the Nazis, because they pushed most wealthy German Jews out of Europe and info Palestine

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group)

>Did you think about checking the citations maybe?
This, it should be something you do with any nonfiction anyway. Not just because it's important to know who supplied the information or reading or if it was used properly, but also because it could be a great work by itself. Heck, interesting stuff can even be found in the citations of propaganda pictures people post on Veeky Forums.

the rate of transmission if you're only pitching is still only about 1%, and also reading your post already gave me aids so i have nothing to lose

>implying aids is the only STD
>implying reading this midwit wouldn't rape your dignity just as much as blackout homosex with a trap

Well that's been quite obvious for a while now, hasn't it.

>obvious for a while now
Calm your farm bro, not everybody is 'woke' as you

What these leftist idiots including her call "capitalism" is actually globalist crony-corporatism. Another user posted a link to the Economist which echoed my own sentiments that each of these "shocks" produced MORE government overreach, not less. So not capitalism at all.

She also lives a pretty comfy upper middle class life on her books. Socialism pays great for those who promote it.

True.

One of the least studied eras is that of Germany prior to the 1940s. The original plan was to deport Jewish people to Israel. Until the Grand Mufti of Palestine came along. The meeting where they proposed the Final Solution came after his visit to Hitler.

As if Hitler needed some Arab to make him want to exterminate every jew.

>muh not true capitalism
> Ad hominem
>whataboutism
Really going for the whole hog huh?

>I've grown convinced Zionist elites backed the Nazis. Supposedly Goldman Sachs helped them launder money.
hmmm
jew bankers have a long tradition of being jew bankers
but then, nazis also have a long tradition of being nazis

nice hate, dude
because my people despise your kind?
t. european

pop politics worse than Chomksy

fear mongering is at least as old as Machiavelli
"Better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

Lao Tzu:
>The first-class ruler who teaches the people, and governs them with benevolence. Then the people are close to him and will praise him.
>The second-class ruler who uses politics to govern the people, so the people fear him.
>The worst ruler who uses tricks to fool and cheat people, making his citizens despise him.

>And the best ruler of the country, who has pursued the understanding of the word and has made the people all their own, so the people are not aware of its existence.

Sure you can do that as long as you remember the bias.

>No Logo
is it still worth reading in 2018?
or the 'basic gestalt' is enough?

>Be sure to check out the follow up This Changes Everything.
>10 pages of actual climate science
>600 pages of muh natives, minorities, and evil capitalists
I don't dislike Klein and her views but that book really wasn't any good.

>climate-change alarmist

Why are Americans so clueless?

They always play on both teams.
There is always an agenda.
They always win in the end.

> We've got air conditioners, so why worry about global warming?

it wasn't true communism either

There is never 'true communism'.
She is still wrong and vapid and shallow and would be one of the first to the wall in a real revolution. Pic related

>Implying I wouldn't be considered "redneck white trash" by mainstream neolibs
Shoo shoo

No offense, but how exactly does surveillance laws benefit "management" ?

If anything it makes it easier for the state to crack down on financial crime by capitalists, even though I don't think mass-surveillance should exist.

>Naomi Klein is a Canadian author, social activist, and filmmaker
>Klein spent much of her teenage years in shopping malls, obsessed with designer labels
>Alma mater: University of Toronto (no degree)
>Her parents were self-described "hippies"[10] who moved to Montreal from the U.S. in 1967 as war resisters to the Vietnam War
>Before World War II, her paternal grandparents were communists
>In 2004, Klein endorsed Hugo Chavez in the Venezuelan presidential election.
Oh boy! Another know-nothing journalist writing about economics. New and exciting, like Michael Moore or Robert Reich but with female genitalia. Three generations of human trash who deserve bullets, not literary consideration.

Jews took names from the countries the moved to and a lot of these have become so common that innocent German names have become Jewish for all intents and purposes.

>endorsed Hugo chavez

That worked out fantastically

That's Fascism for children.

>innocent German names

No idea what "innocent" means here, but the jewish practice of taking on the names of their host is a form of crypsis, so the jew stands out less as he jews. And since the jew determined the most lucrative host to jew off of was Germany many have German sounding names. That said, a lot of these names are ones they made up and are not actually German names.

>Well researched and informed
She had ~500 pages to prove her claim, and did not do it once even. She's a disgusting person who deliberately perverts what Milton Friedman said, and writes an entire book around her lie.

I haven't read her work but it is highly recommended. Would you kindly be able to explain what her point is and why you feel that she doesn't meet it? What is it about Friedman that you believe in so much? Thanks

In short: she misquotes Friedman when he talks about crisis' and attributes untrue motives to him. Her thesis is that free markets are impopular and always face opposition, and so to implement free markets, free marketeers must use "shock therapy" like natural disasters, military coups and other, external forces to stun the people into submission.

What Friedman says in the beginning of 'Capitalism and Freedom' (where the quote she refers to is from) when talking about the collapse of Soviet Russia is that during times of crisis people have a change of heart. He was talking about internal "shocks" and how people changed their mind when they saw the economic and social disaster that communism was.

To answer your second question, I believe in the basic, classically liberal and- or libertarian values that Friedman promotes, how free markets and free trade have produced the best results out of any other system; how capitalism promotes freedom; and the importance of not letting the government gain too much power.

Having lived under both a socialist system (briefly, in my childhood) and currently a capitalist one, I know which one I prefer. And remember that most books are highly recommended by someone, usually the person(s) whose views it supports. The same goes for every book that I would recommend, since they would have an obvious right-wing (American) bias.

>Nah not this one. Her new one, defintely so. Haven't read that but it looks like real pandering.

You're right. It's fairly pointless compared to The Shock Doctrine. But in fairness, the latter is magnificently broad in scope and I'm led to believe her other work is too. I really can't blame her for putting a shorter work out after all that.

>This is Veeky Forums, people are too smart
>This is Veeky Forums
>People are too smart
>Veeky Forums
>smart

>Klein spent much of her teenage years in shopping malls, obsessed with designer labels.[16] As a child and teenager, she found it "very oppressive to have a very public feminist mother" and she rejected politics, instead embracing "full-on consumerism".

Imagine putting this in your bio

There's no meaningful difference between "real capitalism" and crony capitalism, it's completely subjective

All capitalism is crony capitalism you goof.

It's just a classic teenage rebellion

Klein is one of those modern anti-capitalist/consumerist leftists that the alt-right (meme term but best I've got) ended up agreeing with from a different angle, kinda like how Moldbug is bizarro-Chomsky with American interventionism. A lot of white nationalist rhetoric about multicultural capitalism reducing cultures to shopping malls is Adbusters leftism, in which she played a sizable role (No Logo).