/SFfG/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

Taboo Edition.
>list the most controversial sff books you read
>what sff book shocked you the most?
>can modern writers get away with things olden writers got away with?


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

first for having a wank to Storm of Swords boat sex scene

best fantasy books to speedrun?

3rd for anyone who rolls trips in this thread must never touch another book again until they've read every warhammer fantasy novel ever written.

>The Hollows Series by Kim Harrison is great
Yea. Great until she listened to her shipping fan base, and rewrote her novels to have that level. Now no one reads her (at least I don't) anymore because of that cluster fuck brainwashed ending.

That time book she wrote after the hollows flopped. I said it before. Women create great imaginative pieces, it just that they usually ruin it when they let their cunny have it's way and go crazy with the romance.

webnovels are novels too

correct. usually bad, but quality of books should not factor into the validity of discussing them

Inspired by that user who was working on an Animorphs audio drama...

Anybody able to recommend some good pulpy sci-fi or fantasy book series (preferably public domain but if it's over and hasn't been touched in over a decade that's fine too) that I can give the "The Shadow" treatment and try to make into an audio drama series?

Has anyone actually read pic related and liked it? My ex’s mom said it was her favorite sci-fi book but I’m 22 pages in and dry heaving every other paragraph.

>Has anyone actually read pic related and liked it?
Your ex's mom, for one.

On the board, smartass. I’m not particularly interested in a crazy pseudo-anarchist’s take on it - I already have that.

>pseudo-anarchist
Can you be more specific? Every stripe of anarchist thinks at least one other type of anarchist is a statist.

She just doesn’t vote and spends all her money on video games. As far as I can tell that’s it. She listened to a lot of the Dead Kennedys as well, so there’s that I guess.

I liked it.
but I'm a filthy degenerate, so it's no surprise
>old married father fucking young cunny
>old married used up cunny getting used, then turning your son into a sissy

I swear to god though, so far this book is only about a) the card game Bridge, b) how hot the old man with the paunch and thinning hair is since he’s so stern and in control, and c) how lame his handsome son is.

It’s not even good porn though, so far as I can tell, since it’s so obvious that Farnham is just a stand in for Heinlein to use to do what he wouldn’t be able to in real life

worm is the Ulysses of webnovles

and by "her take" you mean "you and her lived by the book's principles," right?

PSS had a sexual relationship between a human guy and an insect-woman and it was cute

No way, man, and I’m glad of it. Also, I’m a few more pages in and he’s introduced another concept - women needn’t wear shirts. I can fucking hear him jacking off as he writes.

Tough luck bro.

Postan

E-book: gutenberg.org/ebooks/1059
Audio: gutenberg.org/ebooks/8968

Probably not what you were going for OP, but I found the VALIS trilogy very shocking and unsettling - that level of genuine mental instability and anguish, portrayed without a trace of romanticism, is much rarer in SF than the more usual type of "edgy" material

Haha I may be a masochist for forcing myself through Heinline but I’d never take it that far

Bakker is the most taboo fantasy shit ive read probably. Really wish rape goblins were more common.

Do we have a list of candidates for the next book club pick?

>list the most controversial sff books you read
Time Enough for Love, I guess. I've not really read anything that controversial.
>what sff book shocked you the most?
Dystopias, say 1984 or I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream, might be depressive but I would not call them shocking. So non, really.
>can modern writers get away with things olden writers got away with?
I doubt anyone would name a cat Nigger-man nowadays. But I don't think writers CAN'T get away with stuff.

>can modern authors get away with

As someome trying to write an implied rapacious noblemans son I can honestly say no, they cannot.
There's no way I can have a 12 year old rape another twelve year old while her sister watches and feel comfortable with myself.
Wouldn't have been a problem in the 60' and 70's

>what sff book shocked you the most?
Prince/King of Thorns, with how awful it was.

just write it retard, that sounds hot.

Not feeling comfortable with juvenile rape is probably a positive change desu

Christ Cyteen is boring. I'm 36 pages in and it's been nothing but meetings and motions and adjournments. Please tell me that it gets going at some point.

Fuck that shit, 50 of them is more than enough

Spoiler alert:
The old man tries to convince his daughter to fuck his nigger manservant; later they emerge into a future where literal fucking Yakub niggers from space are all genius Kangz and all whites are ignorant rapeslaves

That was when I dropped it and, after the shitshow that was the unabridged Stranger in a Strange Land, decided Heinlein was simply not for me

I think I’ll end up disliking similar parts as you for very different reasons, friendo.

Aww. Poor pol. Don't like things that challenge your worldview /doctrine?

user I...
It picks up a little when young Ariane makes an appearance, but the book is literally about political infighting.

Is there a reason Robert Jordan wrote 90% of the women in WoT as massive cunts? I'm a few books in and this shit has me baffled.

Do the user who posted the list of radio dramas, I'm listening to the Black Tapes right now and really liking it. Thanks for the suggestion. On the other hand I dropped Welcome to Nightvale like one minute in. That really did seem like some tumblr shit, to paraphrase that other user.

You're shitting me, for real? Well, at least it was a christmas gift and not something I paid for.

To contrast them with best girl Tuon

Matriarchy. Not even memeing

His only experience of women came from his harpy of a wife.

It does explore some themes like personhood and cloning, but definitely isn't one of Cherryh's space operas. I sometimes recc it to anons looking for sexually precocious lolis because I'm a bad person (technically true).

There are any books with degeneracy but not smut?
I want a good book, with some good stories, but i dont want everything to revolve about sex and how the protag is amazing and his dick is like honey.

Great. Is there any hope of character growth or should I just bail? If I have to read another 9 books of Egwene maligning Rand for absolutely no reason I might as well do something better with my time.

There is, really, the most hateable woman in the series becomes one of my favorite characters, behind only of rand, even egwene gets redemption.

Egwene is forever a bitch, honestly. Although, minor spoiler, she doesn't spend much time around Rand later on so you won't have to bear that particular interaction. Some other women... change if not exactly develop. I love WoT and in my opinion the female characters don't overshadow the other parts of the story enough that it's not worth to read. But that's my opinion

I am not sure if i should post this here, but well...
There are any other good cosmic terror aside lovecraft and night land(this shit is unreadable)?

Who? Moirane?

Funnily, the evil women in WoT are the most bearable.

challenge accepted

I dont know where you are, but nynaeve becomes more annoying than moiraine.
But you have to understand their reasons.
>nynaeve
>wisdom with confidence problems, always have to be tough to show the others that she is a wisdom no matter her age
Also, she cares for rand, and she sees herself as wisdom, he is her resposability.
Also she has a thing for saving people.
Moiraine gave up everything for the DR, she wants to guide him, this is why she's so fuckin annoying, later she will redeem herself also.

Oh, of course. Nynaeve. Yea, she gets better.
I've read the whole thing already, I'm another user.

yeah, it's called "i fucked up and rolled a triple in this thread"

Do people actually read modern fantasy novella/novelettes?
I would have thought they'd be more popular considering people read less nowadays but that seems not the be the case

oh shit
where should i begin?

that's the horrific part
you must read them in a random order

do you have any chart for me to roll user?

nah, m8, i've never read any aside from part of "trollslayer" but maybe the guy who posted that satanic curse can help you

You've got your work cut out for you
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warhammer_Fantasy_novels

holy shit
i am gonna die before i read all this shit

My personal opinion is that it's not worth it. Not because the women or any other characters are insufferable or because the story is bad but because it's 10 000 pages of partly unfinished fantasy that's at best slightly better than average.

For some reason people chose one long as series (most often something by Sanderson) and then spend the rest of the year reading it.

I am thinking of readding warhammer
should i begin with fantasy or with 40k?

Do you want books where the girl's pussy is like honey (tight and wet) then?

heartstone saga

What about cuckold porn and science-denial challenges my world view?

I think youre dense

> Do you want books where the girl's pussy is like honey (tight and wet) then?

Yes, I think I do but only if it's well written and with a decent story.

Emmanuelle

Suggest some? I thought every contemporary author is just jacking off into an ASOIAF style endless series these days

Doesn't belong in /SFfG/

I might actually make a roll chart when I get to my PC and assign dubs/trips/etc. to particularly shitty ones. Just finishing the Horus heresy will be a nightmare in itself since only about 1/4 of them are tolerable

So I started reading The Library at Mount Char and I'm only two chapters in but boy oh boy I hope David dies a horrible death.

Can we discuss sci-fi that involves manipulation/violation of mathematics? I know this occurs in the Xeelee Sequence by Baxter, and Reynolds has used it before in Revelation Space (cryo-arithmetic engines violating 2nd law of thermodynamics). I'd love to read more hard sci-fi that incorporates this kind of shit if anyone can provide me with further reading material. I have nothing important planned after my current book.

I must admit i like the warhammer setting.
Are they really that bad? also why?

>Methuselah's Children
>some autist build a small add on to a ordinary rocket engine making it capable of FTL travel
How I hate Libby...

it's been sitting on my shelf for a month, should i do it guys?
is today the day?
i'm not reading any other scifi currently and the mood has struck

The setting has lots of potential, the authors choose what to do with the setting. I personally like the William King Gotrek and Felix books (declined in quality with each new author), Malus Darkblade (read before I knew about Elric of Melnibone), Brunner and the Matthias Thulmann books are ok, the Wine of Dreams is also a cool standalone that hardly has anything to do with the game setting. The problem is over time they hired cheaper and worse authors, and started asking them to make it more of a commercial for the tabletop products, where originally they just let authors play around in a setting sandbox and even help fill in blank spots as they found them.

Horus Heresy started off strong with the first three books but was a victim of its own success as worse and worse writers were brought in to crank out a new Spess Muhreen book every three months, and black library went downhill from there. Much of that wiki list is fanfic-tier trash.

>After the fall of the American Ayatollahs as foretold in Stranger in a Strange Land and chronicled in Revolt in 2100
Do I need to read this shit beforehand?

May as well. I read it over the past ~2 weeks and last thread was rife with discussion. Jump on the wagon.

Are there any decent sci-fi books about time travel but set in the modern day?

Sort of like Quantum Break?
goodreads.com/book/show/28696617-quantum-break?from_search=true

>Cam Rogers

Where do I know that we from...

Nah. You can jump on and of the Heinlein train at any point. Revolt is also quite boring.

I was hoping someone would surprise me and tell me one or two that everyone's reading/read recently.
I partly asked because I wanted to play with the idea of a novella series

one or two what?

this meant for I fucked up

So you admit you're a filthy facts changing /pol/e

I'm glad you're enjoying library at mount char. I hope you will consider house of blades for the Sandersonesque anime.
>training montage
>summoning techniques
>anime weapons
>animal / cute item companion
>multiple worlds and ways to travel to them
>anime power ups

>hard sci-fi that violates physics

>you're a filthy facts changing /pol/e

This is an American website and in America we speak English

John C. Wright, Golden Age trilogy. Mathematics discovered inside the event horizon of a black hole where infinity = 0.

>"hard" sf
>someone transmutes elements

Asking again about this.
tl:dr - any books that use historical magic systems instead of making up their own?

>fi

I wouldn't say I'm enjoying it but can't say I dislike it either. I am neutral so far. The premise seems a bit bland hunting a missing person but I guess it will be interesting to see what happens given the characters' various disciplines.
If I wanted to read anime I'd just read battle shonen

Orson Scott Card's Seventh Son series uses a lot of American folk magic. Same with Manly Wade Wellman's Silver John stories.

Anything that's termed "the ulysses of web-----s" is bound to be good

There is any good book with a Veeky Forums protag who fucks pussy?

>reading a novel
>author aggressively starts shilling his aborignal stand in
When will this meme end?

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_transmutation
are you retarded?

gee user I wonder why the Lavoisier picture was attached, maybe he was a great scientist of his age that didn't believe transmutation was real science or something

I'll take that as a yes