What are some good books to do this?
You are faced with the modern world. For career reasons etc. there is a need to blend in to at least some extent. Yet you also want to nourish your traditional side with some literature. Ideally while remaining undetected or maintaining plausible deniability.
Obviously classics in general should be mostly fine, le Greeks, most western philosophers. But are there any specifics that come to your mind?
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There is this book called Ride the tiger.
Heidegger
No kidding. But here's the problem with it and others of its kind:
Suppose you are currently reading Ride the Tiger. You like to read on the train to work, during breaks or whatever. So the books is either on your ereader or you have it somewhere in your bag, etc.
One day, a coworker notices the book. She googles the title and proceeds to tell your HR apartment that you're reading "a nazi book".
I realize that the possibility of this happening is rather slim, but there are other scenarios, especially if you read a lot and people notice.
"Hey user, what are you reading?"
Then what? Better not tell them you're reading fascist philosophers. So you need to read at least some other stuff, to uphold appearances.
I am thinking about the other stuff.
but Evola is a superfascist
Your ditzy coworker will not know this. She wouldn't care either.
hide it inside something like this
>I got the book as a christmas present and just started reading it.
>seems a bit kooky to me
>I'm reading X thing to understand and combat Ys better.
>it's about wild animals
If you wanna live a fascist life (which i would discourage) try The Prince by Machiavelli - else try Stirner and despook yourself from that shit.
On the other hand Evola seems like he has some nice personal life advice about how to live authentically.
>I have an interest in magic, with a k, of course
>especially sex magic, with a k, and the author is known for it
>wanna give it a transcendental go sometime m'differentiated lady?
2 ez
autism: the post
does Severian ride the Tiger or does he immanentise the eschaton?
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>even caring what some HR roasties do
if you are in a field within which you can get cucked that hard by a HR bitch you should probably not be in it anyway
Just put a book sleeve thing on it so it looks like your reading a different book.
Der Waldgänger by Ernst Jünger
Gurdjieff is all about this
Blending into society, using its negative energies for your own development
t. Stirnerian
what a fucking pussy
The Power of Now
Is there any ideology more reactionary than Traditionalism?
Where to start?
The Greeks, of course.
Primitivism
Say you are reading it for reasons other than political, say for example to understand the old right-wing interpretations of Nietzsche as a topic of academic study.
Eumeswil and The Forest Passage by Junger. The former is was written partially as a response to Evola.
>I wanna live my life as double-faced deceitful faggot
Is this the power of traditionalism?
read it on a kobo or something cuckfaggot
Read it at home. There are quite a few books on my bookshelf that aren't fit for public consumption, thats fine. If you're concerned about that sort of thing you probably don't have to constitution for it anyway.
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yeah nobody gives a shit, they just think you're a Nazi in disguise at that point, I've had such a conversation before about my reading "Storm of Steel".
>I've had such a conversation before about my reading "Storm of Steel".
Really?
Yes, the idea of reading something out of curiosity or historical interest would never occur to anyone who would be inclined to harass someone over their book choices. Even after explaining this, I still got looked at weird. This person even passive-aggressively suggested I check out a book on the Holocaust next.
How strange. It must be the German name. Obviously he fought in the second war but he's not notorious for being a nazi. I guess its probably all the same to them.
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I often read in public, at lunch and such.
Starting The Bell Curve soon. Should I read it around my campus?
From en.wikipedia.org
>Evola also advocated rape (among other forms of male domination of women) because he saw it "as a natural expression of male desire".
Is this true? The source cited isn't Evola but some obscure book.
Eumeswil and Heliopolis by Ernst Jünger
simple, you show them this video and accuse them of racism: youtube.com
My point exactly. Its all the same to them, and any attempt on your part to correct or contextualize will only be seen as Nazi apologetics. Not even worth engaging with.
He said in an interview that a lot of rumors about him go around of which very few are true, so I doubt it. Some triggered fag probably misunderstood Evola talking about Zeus raping a greek waifu
Bear in mind I haven't read any of Evola's metaphysics on sex so someone else is more capable at this than me, I found this.
>"if man in general finds pleasure in defloration and rape, everything that in that pleasure can be related to the instinct of pride of first possession is only a surface element; the deepest factor is the feeling, even if only illusory, that the physical act gives him of violating the inviolable and of possessing her whom, in her ultimate root, in her nakedness, will never be possessed by the lust of the flesh; it is the desire to possess this virgin that acts obscurely in the desire to possess the physically intact woman or the woman who resist."
So what he's saying as I understand it is that there's no difference in wanting to take the virginity from a woman, the physically intact one and raping a non-consensual one because in essence your using her as property and are taking something from her.
>"as a rule, nothing stirs a man more than feeling the woman utterly exhausted beneath his own hostile rapture.”
This works with the first citation and is important. So if I'm interpreting his writing correctly he's not advocating for rape which is important to distinguish from the word justify. Where the man is emasculated and the woman doesn't cherish her innocence nor femininity 'rape' from a metaphysical standpoint is proven to be reasonable from a man's desires but it's not right. He is technically half-justifying rape in an already broken world which isn't too unreasonable.
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What do you think?
Intro to Metaphysics -> Being and Time -> Poetry, Language, Thought
What country do you live in?
What do ebolafags really mean when they say ride the tiger? Aside from being bitter all the time and not letting anyone touch their peen.
AHAHAHAHAHA no.
Evola was literally being a warlord philosopher walking under bombs, while Heidegger was a fat filthy coward who first said Jews were responsible for the metaphysical decay of the west and than came back on his positions when he saw the nazi lost.
Please. Ride the Tiger is a book about how to live in the modern world. Heidegger is good for many things: telling you how to live is not one of them.
OP, go with some Stoics (Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus) and some Plato. Ancient philosophy is the best to get in Evolian mood.
The classics in general are good if you want to keep in touch with tradition.
Porco dio he's not justifying rape you fucking moron. Rape is not even the main topic of the passages you quoted.
He's referring to the need of possessing the truth, which is expressed in the self-annihilation coming with the experience of sex, as reflected in all levels of human experience - included the basest acts.
He later says in metaphysics of sex that rape is utterly dishonorable for the one who rapes, because he's incapable of actually 'conquering' what the woman represents if not by means of brute violence.
So no, Evola is not technically half-justifying rape. He openly condemns it.
Stop reading Evola in this fucking millennial mindset where everything concerns rape, white supremacy, PC culture and all this bullshit we'll all be over in the next five years.
Evola was not pro or against this shit, he simply did not care. This stuff is irrelevant and does not belong in any cultural debate whatsoever.
Now get out.
>Evola was not pro or against this shit, he simply did not care
right, the things I quoted are explaining why a man would rape. I understood the word justify as an explanation why someone would do something from their point of view. And like I said I haven't even read him.
So a better word for me to have used would be explanation instead of justify.
>Stoics
Somebody doesn't understand traditionalism. Stoicism is rationalism, it has nothing to do with traditionalism. For René Guénon, Stoicism was the lowest point of the greco-roman civilisation before it was destroyed and Christianity allowed the West to come back to a point closer to the Tradition.
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Any of his works that you'd recommend in particular?
>Says he wants to RTT.
>Is a pussy.
Just give up.
That explains it then. I honestly wish Britain had been hit by communism when the USSR was around, at least then people would be harder and more resistant to the menace of the EU.
I don't really understand this critique. Courage is fine, desirable even, but the whole point of riding the tiger is subterfuge. The tiger is objectively stronger than the rider at the point of the ride. The rider conceals himself, does that make him a coward?
The point in riding the tiger is not to be reactionary. Like using psychedelics because the counterculture encourages itdespite it being banned at large and traditionally an initiatic ritual. Seize the means of initiation!
Autoban when
>I want to learn about things that are anti-society but I don't want to read any books by people who oppose society
really makes you fucking think
How else do you avoid being memed into a nazi
Just do what Evola did and correct them by identifying yourself as a "superfascist"
>Jews were responsible for the metaphysical decay of the west
Heidegger was so based
You don't, you become a nazi.
Kekworthy quote
>terminus est being that small
this is true only if you understand stoics as moderns, which they are not. Guénon's understanding of the greeks was quite lacking