Can someone post me that guide to which translation of Homer to read. Don’t want this penguin shit

This is accurate. Coming from OP

>mfw I get to the Catalogue of Ships

Honestly, just compare passages and pick up the translation that you prefer.

Good intuition OP
This, or Fitz
Nope

Bullshit chart, I've read the first half of Fagles Iliad before switching and that section is hand picked to sound good

It's nothing compared to Melville's cetology

Fuck off
Cetology parts are god-tier comfiness

It is about half the time, I'm not complaining, the prose alone is worth it and he always drops a great paragraph at the end. It's just about 100 pages instead of Iliad's 12

>catering to morons who can't do a simple google search
it's only homer, read multiple translations and fuck off with the bullshit. what a fucking waste.

You're not gonna find a better translation.

>it's only homer

ouchies

Lattimore

Butler. Lattimore sucks ass. Fitzgerald for poetry. Forget the pseuds—they would recommend Sayers or Longfellow for Dante as well, over the far superior mandelbaum.

But Fagles sounds like trash compared to Fitz

Fitzgerald is the superior translator

Singleton, you illiterate shithole.

I reiterate my appeal to Veeky Forums to tell me where this particular book's cover image actually comes from (what pot, what urn, etc). It's unclear when you actually drill into it.

have you even read it?

Avoid the litfags, if you want to understand read Peter Green. The guy literally has 50+ years of experience in all things classic and has translated the Iliad and is working on the Odyssey to be published this year. The translation is clear, footnotes are abundant and the style is pretty good as well. Just avoid Emily Wilson like the plague when you move on to the Odyssey.

Going by that passage alone, Fitzgerald ~ Lattimore > Fagles; Pope is too different to compare directly to the rest, but would sound awesome in a rock opera. I am leaning towards Fitzgerald. Lattimore seems to use compound words to match the original Greek more closely, which I understand is useful, but I'd probably find distracting on my first reading.

kys
lattimore or bust

WHD Rouse or bust

The back of my copy of the Penguin Deluxe Iliad only gives the name of the cover designer, without indicating what the cover is based on, while the back of the Odyssey gives the name of the designer, as well as what it is based on. Makes me assume the Iliad cover in OP was probably something designed just for the cover.

checked

also, i laughed out loud at a bar while reading this. some illiterate qt3.14 looked at me while I was making an autistic fool of myself. thanks user.

>tfw no Lattimore Odyssey audiobook

kek

>nobody talking about Chapman

Feels good man.

(It's shit)

Is there a Pope audiobook?

Is it time for "Homer was meant to be listened to"?
As if this discussion wasn't autistic enough

>tfw Ennis Rees

If you haven't lived in 5th century BC Athens and heard an oral recital in ancient Greek you haven't experienced Homer.

Watching Troy (2004)
>RIP Menelaus, Agamemnon, Achilles, Hector
>Paris and Helen survivie
>Everything is better
>Patroclus is Achilles' cousin

Reading Iliad and Odyssey:
>RIP Paris
>Achilles is a fag
>Menelaus and Agamemnon are A-OK
>Menelaus and Helen are back together and have children

The fuck?

I was gonna make a separate thread but while I have you guys here, what's a good children's picture book version of the Illiad and the Odyssey? I told her Alexander the Great kept it under his pillow and now she asks me about it everytime I see her.

You're raising a good kid.
I can't help you.

Watch Troy (2004) director's cut
amazon.com/Iliad-Odyssey-Boxed-Set/dp/076369813X/
amazon.com/DAulaires-Greek-Myths-Ingri-dAulaire/dp/0440406943/
amazon.com/Odyssey-Puffin-Classics-Geraldine-McCaughrean/dp/0140383093/
amazon.com/Odyssey-Gray-Eyed-Goddess-Return-Osborne/dp/1423126106/
amazon.com/Trojan-Horse-Greeks-Step-Reading/dp/0394896742/
amazon.com/Odyssey-Classics-Rosemary-Sutcliff/dp/1847805299/
amazon.com/Greek-Myths-Young-Children-Stories/dp/0746037252/
amazon.com/Odyssey-Graphic-Classics-Fiona-Macdonald/dp/0764142763/
amazon.com/Wanderings-Odysseus-Story-Odyssey/dp/0553494821/
amazon.com/Iliad-Odyssey-Marcia-Williams/dp/1406303488/

CUTE

Right?
What the fuck Keats

>tfw to inteligent to read Fagles

As if anyone itt actually studies the text to the extent in which precise translation is relevant to their work, as opposed to just doing a single readthrough accompanied by online study guides as they do.

How's Butlers' translation?

servicable

Panel 8 is right

Thanks user, I'll have to skim through these for some good illustrations

who still listening in 2018?

Nope

I think Fagles is by far the worst one of the chart. I still have nothing against his translation, but I prefer Lattimore.

>Peter Green

I've never heard of Peter Green, but this whole exchange made me burst out laughing

>Not choosing Lombardo

I have three translations of Dante that I go through. I only read Illiad and Odyssey once, and didn't really read Aenied but I should do that.

Its easy to read.

They both suck ass. Fitzgerald is the best.

>tfw no daughter to read ancient literature to as bedtime stories
Can someone come to my house and kill me please?

where do you live?

In a constant state of agony.

I appreciate your helpful and generally correct reply. Because I have already looked into the matter, I know that what you said was accurate.

However, based on my inquiry into the thing, I reject your notion that the Iliad cover was something "made-up". The context of the overall book design makes it very clear the the Iliad's cover derives from /some historically real archaeological object/, whatever that object may be. Regrettably, the book design notes don't give insight into this, whereas the Odyssey and Aeneid book design notes do.

So Ohio?

Can you post excerpts of his translation for comparison?

>kys
you haven't read it.

>Aenied
Roman fanfiction

I agree with this

lmfao. how are these "translations" of the same text?

I doubt anyone on Veeky Forums can read Homeric Greek to the level where they can seriously critique a professional translation.

Fagles is great. Why should you care about the publisher?

No, but you can look at different translations and find which one you, personally, like the best.

Alexander Pope is the only way. All else feels like a cheap imitation. Pope turns it into the epic it deserves to be

Wrapt in the cold embraces of the tomb;
Adorn'd with honours in their native shore,
Silent they slept, and heard of wars no more.

Yeah

Pope's is an adaptation. An incredible achievement, but still

Any one read Reck's translation? How is it?

Swift led a campaign for subscriptions to it and Dr. Johnson loved it, calling it “a performance which no age or nation can pretend to equal” and “the greatest version of poetry which the world has ever seen.” Richard Bentley famously sneered; Blake hated it. In our day, Harold Bloom has called Johnson’s verdict “scandalous overpraise of a version now dead for nearly all of us”.

Is there merit in what Bloom says?

I read Fagles as a boy, then the Verity translation in university, and now I'd like to try another. Does Pope stray very far from the original?

none. read a summery of the iliad on sparknote and move on to the odyssey. the iliad is boring as fuck

>Does Pope stray very far from the original?
Yes, he changes a lot to fit his own meter. It's a fairly strict retelling instead of a translation.

pls come to Brazil

Eternal September

It's the odyssey that's boring though.

Here's a well-formatted epub version:
a.uguu.se/yexLfXKfbgld_The-Iliad-A-New-Translation-by-Peter-Green.epub

Fair.

This

Lombardo isn't as popular as Lattimore, Fitzgerald, or Fagles. Sell me on his translation.

Have a brief listen to the man himself reading his translation:

youtube.com/watch?v=QFAjkf6tk60&t=21m28s

It flows very very well.

Thanks, user.

of course he has, how would he know about the rap battles if he didn't?

The only translation anybody needs is the Caroline Alexander translation.

Personally, I enjoyed the parts where Achilles was masturbating using a Lyra plushie