INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY AND ITS FUTURE

Has anyone read it? What do you think of it?

Buy the Feral Books edition, and let us know.

Read it. A lot of it feels right, somewhat. It is a bit trivial, but nothing about this guy's life leads us to think he was in any way a trivial person. The section on left's mentality is the weakest part of the manifesto (don't let right wingers fool you into thinking otherwise).

I meant Feral House.

Interesting, but overrated.

Take the work on its own. Try to ignore the author when reading it. Consider it just another work of philosophy, lest you inflate the thing.

its like if Jacques Ellul was sexually frustrated and mildly retarded

>dude haha get laid bro
who are you kidding you're on an anime websites funnypages forum right now. People can have motivations that stem from things other than tfw no gf. Its not a straight line from not having a girlfriend and life in supermax.

gee, I wonder who is behind that post

The basic concept is correct that technology, which was originally invented as an aid to help man manipulate nature, has become our master and manipulated us. This isn't an original insight though. Ted just got it from The Technological Society.

he had a weak power process, i guess

He's actually correct. It's literally babby's first critique of leftism. Sad!

Ted hit the nail on the head.

He should have gone Varg mode and waited for the collapse instead of sending mail bombs out. Industrial society is not sustainable, and will collapse, and we'll return to a simpler way of life. The kali yuga will end and magic will return to the earth, the fairies and gnomes will come out from hiding and we shall dance in woodland groves again.

>instead of sending mail bombs out

but he had a weak power process, so he felt compelled to do some kind of leftist tier activism

Agreed desu, I'm a conservative and have no love for the left, but the section attacking leftism (without any more nuance than that) as a mental illness just seemed childish and hardly befitting for a 'genius'. Enjoyed it otherwise though, and most of what he says is valid.

>It's not a straight line from not having a girlfriend and life in supermax
Thanks for spoiling the end of my diary desu

it gets kind of boring when he dives into leftism but it's otherwise pretty interesting. at the very least it's good to read so you have an edge over people who haven't in petty discussions.

It's been a long time since I've read it but I never found it particularly enlightening. He makes a lot of crank-ish assertions without substantiating them.

I still don't get the logic behind Anarcho-Primitivism. I too thought nature seemed rad after dropping acid and watchinf Ghibli films, but you know what's radder? Modern medicine. Computers. Calculus.
Also, what makes something too "material"? Maybe we could still have puppet shows, but no TV? It's ascetic without a clear specificity.

Their arguments are pretty solid, however he assumes that the "power process" makes people happy. What he call power process just makes people too busy to even wonder what they are doing with their lifes.

>Modern medicine
I'd rather live 50 or 60 good years than 90, 100 shallow ones.
>Computers
Cancer
>Calculus
Is not dependent on an industrial society

I gave it a read a few years ago, so my memory of it is a bit fuzzy. Most of what I remember is about the same as everyone else has said: environmentalist stuff is accurate but not novel, and I don't remember the leftist remarks. Kinda meh overall.

Calling something a mental disorder is the hallmark of the Jewish Left.

>tfw listening to brainlet /pol/cucks trot out the usual line of "IT SUCKS BUT THE PART ON LEFTISM IS GOOD"

It's a 50 page manifesto that you can pick up for free, you fucking clown.

he kept going on about this 'system' that uses the technology to ruin everything, but goes after the technology instead of them.

some valid criticisms i think, but hasn't found the right source of the problems.

another thing that struck me was how easy it was to read and how compelling it was

... If only people read books instead of posting such inane bullshit.
Your view is a bit dated, not to say it's wrong, but Kaczynski operates through the lens of historical materialism, therefore negating any 'roots' or 'becoming' of technological systems and highlighting technological progress as both form and substance.

you're right, he should have done the more accurate and correct thing and called them "heretics"

>The kali yuga will end
Yeah... in 400,000 years

yeah i agree his part about the left isn't very good, i think they're a lot more bloodthirsty than he gives them credit for.

I like this post

Boiled down edgelord version of Jacques Ellul, but at least it saves you the trouble of actually having to read Ellul.

His newer book (got a free review copy from the publisher) is decent too, some good stuff on the nature of self-propagating systems.

Honestly given the MKULTRA stuff they did to him, I'm surprised Ted didn't turn out even weirder than than he did.

What the fuck is a "weak power process"

The person your responding to said the opposite and /pol/ generally agrees with most of what Teddy K said.

Targeted political assassinations isn't activism and is not a hallmark of the left.

spoken like a true STEM

It's explained in the text. Try reading the necessary material before commenting next time, brainlet.

I think he's onto something. I doubt the future will be THAT severe but in the end we can't deny how much the system is trying to force us to live unnatural lives for its sake. Interesting read overall.

I've heard he has other books. Are they worth it?

Ellul wasn't the first to point that out either. He probably learned it from Lewis Mumford.

watered down freud