Gravity's Rainbow Reading Group: #04

What is your favourite novel now? Also checked

It makes me uncomfortable that he sexualises the rocket so frequently.

do you self identify as a rocket and don't want your kind to be sexualized?

>tfw I'm 250 pages behind
I'm never gonna make it, am I?

hi dogs what is the easiest pynchon i can start with if i havent read any of his novels and barely even looking at a paragraph of GR confuses me terribly
im a newfig and im not a native ingrish spikkar either so pls dont hit me 2hard
nice full house

You could most likely read the whole thing in a day but you'd probably worsen your autism in the process.

either crying of lot 49 or inherent vice

It's Sunday, spend the day reading.

Any favorite scenes, lads? It's more vulgar than I expected before diving in t b h

no, i think he gets it. based on these threads, literature is exclusively for asserting your own superiority.

>this is one of them books that you just love to put up your asshole because the prose feels so good against the sides of your rectum that you just never want it to stop

A lot of great scenes but funnily the that stucked me the most was slothrop trying British candies. The tickle metaphor also gave me the creeps.

This is one of them lonely female neets that are just dying for (yous) from the male specimen, stay strong lads, she is a -7/11

Not strange at all, the disgusting British candies scene is the funniest scene in the book. Probably one of the funniest things I've ever read, in fact.

What's an obelisk? What's a pyramid?
Phallic symbolism shows up in occult practices all the time. Think Kubrick.

stay strong! unite, men! arm-in-arm! together we can achieve the monumental task of finishing a book!

>If you people didnt care about prose so much I would be the genre fiction voice of our generation! drats!

to be clear, some proof-of-their-ability-to-poorly-interpret-language-context-and-meaning-person poorly interpreted my 'stay strong lads' to mean anything to do with this:
finish the book: when 9.7/10 of any half competent person who read the exchange would be able to plainly comprehensively see it was intended to refer to not responding to the -7/11 (you) hungry mental, artful, spiritually deficient female neet in question. I think your work here is done, and the jury may rest, it has been taken from before here.

but you are a 19 year old recent college grad creating bait for shekels

>genre fiction is held back by a small group of circle-jerking cock-worshippers who think pretending to read gravity's rainbow qualifies them to comment on not only the entire western canon, but also all aesthetics

>knew it
>t.genre fiction writer
>genre fiction is held back by being genre fiction

>gr isnt genre fiction
good one

>the inspiration for my prose comes from electronics manuals and shoppingmarket circulars and the dryness of my grandmothers pussy and the boredom of groundhogs and prairie dogs

>dryness of my grandmothers pussy
jokes on you! the inspiration for my prose actually comes from my often sopping wet licking of my grandmas pussy, so its actually not dry at all, ha!

>I forgot the dullness of the buttend (and I do mean, and wish to stress.. the Buttness) of rubber knives

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Hey faggots let's talk about the book actually. Here's a slow pitch- what's the book saying about reality imitating fiction?

holy fuck. If this is your first time then gl.

yeah, M&D is better...

Seems like an extension of Modernism that takes it to logical extremes; basically that if reality is inherently unknowable, then stories of them moreso.

*stories of it

So far in this thread
>childish nonsense

There was quality in the last thread anons, it's time for quality anons to start posting again.
Don't make me ask questions you all about postmodernism just to keep the thread alive again anons.

>tfw to intelligent

Guys if you think
>What the fuck was that part about
Then post it as a question here so we can get something discussion going.

What this guy said, come on: i'm sure there are parts that weren't clear and other anons might be able to help.

>don't ask me what the Kirghiz light was though. I DONT KNOW EITHER OK. NO-ONE DOES

we all gave up ages ago. shitposting = more fun than reading.

Ok I'll bite. What the fuck are the schwarzkommando? I know it means "Black commander" but I don't understand their role in everything. I know vaguely of Germany's occupation of Southwest Africa but beyond that, what is Africa's connection to the V2?

Where we are, do we know what the schwarzgerat is? It's somehow related to 00000, right? Is that known too? Reading the wikipedia page and other writings makes me forget what I'm 'supposed' to know at this point.

Are some of these things supposed to be unanswered at this point in the book?

Why does Franz vd Groov commit genocide on the dodo's and more importantly, why does he focus on the egg?

Does anyone understand Walter Rathenaus speech?

[Spoiler]Whats the deal with Lyle Bland 'transcending' through Masonic magic? [/spoiler]

How long did you guys who finished it take to finish it?

>Schwarzkommando
Means Black Commando's, not commander. That should already help. They are a group of black special forces running amok in Germany, the radio program about them was intended as propaganda to scare the germans before they knew it was real thing
>Schwarzgerat
Idk where you guys are, so i don't know. I figured it out pretty quick. Yes it's related to the 00000, but chasing it is gonna take a while.
There was decent discussion on Van Der Groov's Genocidal tendencies in GR reading group thread #2 if i'm not mistaken. Check the archive.
Anons thought it was a Calvinistic response to 'an abomination' before god. The western obsession with Death is a theme throughout the book, hence the part with the egg as well (I have to be honest, that part and the kirghiz light remained mysteries to me).
If i'm not mistaken Rathenaus speech ties in with the Death obsession. I don't remember the exact details, but reading up on Rathenaus actual history helped me back then.
About Bland one of the only things I can remember for certain is that he's not the only one trying to transcend, turning to mystery to escape the world.
Help my memory with the name here, is he the guy lying on his sofa a charlatans/ specialists in the occult visit him untill he decides to become a spirit? Or was he the guy that's related to Slothrop (like a friend of his family?) Is that known by now?

Any other anons wanna pitch in here?

He's the guy on the sofa and the family friend ('uncle Lyle')

>Kirghiz light
what are all possible etymologys of Kirghiz? And what are all context lines of when the term comes up?

I, too, enjoyed the British candy scene a lot. That, and the shit eating, loli-fucking and negro-toilet-fingering

oh ok, i thought i was confusing two characters. I'd have to reread the part to give you a decent answer, but my copy is currently in Brazil (and i'm not).
Are you asking me or telling me to pay attention to the etymology? I just assumed it meant Kirghiz, like.. the place and the people in Kirghizstan. Were the scene actually takes place. As far as i can remember, it's only described as something Tchitcherine and his witness in the wilderness that was apparently mind-boggeling and then it's mentioned a few more times throughout the book.

If have any insight at all, please, do tell me.
No-one does loli-fucking quite like Pynchon does.

gravity's rainbow is just one long shitpost though

this is a great exposition of how even a strong and powerful man could be completely overcome and conquered by his care or desires in relation to the female

how a man could gladly, willfully put up with so much of womans shit

>strong
>powerful

uhh... read the book bro.

Is a Brigadier General not generally a pretty powerful position in the world? A strong, brave leader of manly men?