Morality

this would imply that animals have ethics, since you assign a "paradigmatic ought" to every action that doesnt result in self-harm.

You're an idiot. Stop sharing your opinions.

>Yes, plenty of them, in fact, the majority of philosophers who do work in ethics and philosophers in general think moral realism is correct.
doubt that is true and even if it was true, it's not an argument.

>doubt that is true
philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl
>even if it was true, it's not an argument.
I didn't make an argument, I answered his question. If I wanted to make an argument, I'd have made some probabilistic argument that showed how you should probably go with the opinion of actual academics rather than anons on Veeky Forums.

>philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl
>Accept or lean toward: moral realism 525 / 931 (56.4%)
>56%
thats not a significant majority at all

> I'd have made some probabilistic argument that showed how you should probably go with the opinion of actual academics rather than anons on Veeky Forums.
thanks for not doing that because it would open a whole other can of worms

Was it supposed to be an argument? Maybe he was just answering OP's question.

But yeah, morals don't real, not in a basal, ontological sense anyway. I think it's impossible for us to "think" and conceptualize the world (and our functioning in it) *without* (pre)supposing "oughts" (much like we cannot escape the presuppositions of causality and free agency in our thinking), but that doesn't mean we can actually demonstrate any kind of moral realness.

>philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl
Fuck me, those stats are depressing.

OP is just a flase-flagging Christcuck

the veil of ignorance is bullshit. you can't take the decision maker out of the equation and then ask him to make a decision. every thought requires a conscious mind to answer it, and that conscious mind is the sum of all their experiences, it's not going to be able to give a purely objective "opinion" since it not able to put itself in the shoes of every other being in existence.

nice thought experiment but ultimately flawed in practice.

>morality doesn't exist
>stop this!
>It's immoral to talk about your morality!
>it is wrong to think of Right and Wrong!
>I am hungry, I have food, I SHOULDNT EAT IT, No Ought From An Is!
>There are clouds in the sky, they are ready to become water, THEY OUGHT NOT HOWEVER