Plato or Aristotle?

Plato or Aristotle?

Why do you think anybody has to choose?

Heraclitus

Platostotle

Their metaphysics, at least, are quite different.

Pyrrho

The idea that history is a battle between Platonist, who believe in absolute truth, and Aristotelians, who rely on empirical data, has been around forever dude.

Diogenes

Plato with some Aristotelian annotations, especially on metaphysics.

Socrates

Whichever one that didn't lead to Hegal

Hegel is an Aristotelian and a Platonist

Then what does one do if they want Hegalian Dialectics to have never existed?

all modern philosophers build on plato and aristotle

But they favor one or the other

not sure what to tell you, the internal necessity of Spirit developing externally in a series of moments into the formal-final cause that is true Science is the inevitable motion of the divine idea

My problem is not so much with its contents as much as it it with the certain fellows the followed Hegal. Bernays comes to mind

The falsest of false choices. In terms of thought and doctrine they are remarkably close to one another, the differences between the two highlighted and exaggerated by schools over the centuries. But in terms of philosophy, which is truly the only standard by which they should be judged, there is on cause to decide. This is a meaningless question. Why do you yearn to ask this? Is it so you can follow one god again?

No, they actually aren't. Both are essentialists, the only difference is where they locate essence

neither

>Pyrrho
t. brainlet

>Plato, as generally discussed in American colleges, is still identified with “the Platonic method,” which is summarized as some kind of ethereal super debating society
>It is commonly understood that because Plato in one or another dialogue argues for the transmigration of souls, , or for communal marriage, Plato believes in transmigration of the souls or communal marriage
>A review of Plato’s dialogues, seen as coherent whole, contradicts such nominalist interpretations
>The idea that Plato located knowledge within the dialogues themselves is also inadequate: if a reader comes to a conclusion, based on the arguments presented, then it is necessarily true. Plato himself stressed this.
>Knowledge, for Plato, is not the ability to have or reproduce a fixed set of true ideas—it is not even the ability to improve a set of ideas.
>Plato’s epistemological discovery consistes of a pedagogy which forces the student to, in his own words, “hypothesize the higher hypothesis,” to understand the motion which leads the human mind from one conception of the universe to a higher conception of the universe. This motion is reality, is knowledge.

>The well-known Aristotelian categories are a conscious attempt to kill creativity. If one accepts the categories, then one must accept that no new knowledge can be created. Man, under these circumstances, becomes a dumb cataloguer, wandering around trying to fit objects into categories by means of Aristotle’s Syllogisms. He becomes a donkey or a sheep, nibbling on hard little bits of reality until, if he nibbles long enough, he finally gets “the idea” of the object.
>When Aristotelianism is accepted, there can be no competent research in the physical sciences, since men ill not be able to get beyond the field-particle paradox posed by the Miletians and Plato—a paradox which lies at the heart of all major problems in high energy-physics to this day; Aristotelian researchers will be zero-growthers, overwhelmed by the desire to find more and more “fundamental particles.”

This tbhonest

Have you not read either of them or do you just like being the guy who thinks he's better because he's heard a third name?

what a false idea

Plato. Aristotle was just a contrarian

wanting helgelian dialectics to have never existed is part of the dialectic, dude

stop posting in this thread then, nigger.


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plato, no contest

Parmenides
Daily reminder that the paradoxes posed by Zeno of Elea are yet to be solved and Aristotle just handwaved them away by saying "lol just look at facts bro"

Hi Neoplatonist