Hey brainlet theists:

Now this is gnosticism.

>theological ***proofs***

Why would you assume that the one who created everything had to be created?

Cleanse yourself of “””Logic””” (baseless secular myth) and try reading some Aquinas, brainlet

Why would you assume that the universe had to be created?

>The universe couldn't exist without a cause. That would be absurd!
>What caused God? H-he caused himself. Uh, I mean nothing. He doesn't need a cause. Obviously, you foolish atheists.

The Universe is subject to observable laws, including cause and effect. Any original existence would need to either break those laws, or simply be unaffected by them. And outside force of some kind is not an insane assertion

God exists because we witness life, and we can deduce life to 2 points, beginning and end, the inbetween the being, that subjecte to experience.

easy answer:
material things need a cause
god is not a material thing

also the cosmological argument+a revision of the ontological argument is a deadly combo to atheists

>the cosmological argument+a revision of the ontological argument is a deadly combo to atheists
Hume and Kant would like a word with you