Why Are Zizekians So Sensitive RE: Peterson?

the fucking retard publishes like 3-4 copy/pasted books every year, i'm not sure what kind of game he is playing, i'm guessing he gets money from it somehow

Zizek is for children. Children get upset easily.

upboated

It's funny because they agree on more points than their followers would, and both are heavily influenced by the same group of thinkers (Freud, Jung, Merleu-Ponty et al, Lacan, etc...).

Remember when Peterson got so butthurt about the article he challenged a zizek quote bot to a debate?

twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/963536145215733760
twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/963537387790909441

Peterson just smells another chance to make neetbux

>Lacan
Peterson despises Lacan as just another bloody postmodernist. They probably would agree on Stalin and SJWs though.

>Peterson despises Lacan as just another bloody postmodernist.

He only says that because all he knows about Lacan is that he was a French guy in the 60s.
The fact he name drops Heidegger doesn't put him in a good position to try be against Lacan

To be fair, very few people outside of lit (and reddit) truely understand Lacan.

No Zizekians even thought it was a good Zizek piece, like he didn’t really say anything he hasn’t said a thousand times before and he literally used a quote from one of his books without citation.

Also you didn’t link your video

Literally Zero books set up an interview with Peterson and he straight up ghosted. He doesn’t actually want to talk to any Marxists. I even helped workshop the interview questions with Douglas Lain and now he can’t even get Peterson to acknowledge they were set up to talk. Peterson reflexively challenges Marxists to “debate” and everybody always says ‘yes let’s debate’ and then Peterson continues to claim nobody will bdebate him.

It’s endless astonishing to me that Peterson argues Jung can be formed into something scientifically credible, while totally dismissing Lacan.

Nobody on lit understand Lacan.

It gets more fun if you read it with his voice sniffing here and there.

>He doesn’t actually want to talk to any Marxists. I even helped workshop the interview questions with Douglas Lain and now he can’t even get Peterson to acknowledge they were set up to talk. Peterson reflexively challenges Marxists to “debate” and everybody always says ‘yes let’s debate’ and then Peterson continues to claim nobody will bdebate him.

This is very true, the closest he came to talking with an actual Leftist was fucking Russel Brand.
I think he's simply a greedy coward and doesn't want the risk of actually engaging who he criticizes to affect his bread and butter

the zero books guy already interviewed the Minotaur of Milwaukee, what does he need puny Memerson for?

A brilliant strategy given that nobody takes Marxists seriously. Why normalize their fringe conspiracy theories?

I dream of seeing Sadler going Mountain on Peterson

that would be extremely painful

>He doesn’t actually want to talk to any Marxists.
Zizek should call his bluff desu, Peterson is setting himself up for a failure if Zizek accepts his challenge. But I don't think Zizek actually gives a shit about American/Canadian intellectuals.

>Zizek fanboys understand anything he has written
>Peterson fanboys read books instead of simply watching youtube videos
wow OP if you actually thought intellectual discussion can happen between plebs you probably fall into one of these categories.

>Zizek should call his bluff desu, Peterson is setting himself up for a failure if Zizek accepts his challenge. But I don't think Zizek actually gives a shit about American/Canadian intellectuals.
Zizek doesn't give a fuck about anything beyond his own memeing, he hasn't even cared for politics beyond his Hegel books for a while

>But I don't think Zizek actually gives a shit about American/Canadian intellectuals.

Thats part of the problem. Zizek never bothers appearing on meme channels or speakers.
Reading the article it seems like he didn't even know who Peterson was

>Reading the article it seems like he didn't even know who Peterson was
it's obvious he didn't, the newspaper probably asked him for an article about Peterson and he just stole some sentences about Peterson from random articles and copy/pasted from his previous articles the rest of the article

what i am saying is that zizek is basically a Chad

*sniff* that should do, back to eating hotdogsh before I fuck my young wife and have my 14 hour sleep and so on

>Literally Zero books set up an interview with Peterson and he straight up ghosted
he should interview Bret Weinstein instead, he is closer to the left and not as much of a meme as Peterson, even though he is basically an STEMretard

Don't worry, we are entering the post-petersonian era.

>righties in favor of deplatforming
disgraceful

>literally Zero books set up an interview with Peterson and he straight up ghosted.
can you source that?

i noticed there are many semi-mainstream publication that are starting to catch up into the anti-pc and memerson train. Which means that soon anti-pc and memerson won't be contrarian positions anymore, which means edgy kids will move on to the next big thing

i'm kind of curious what's next

youtube.com/watch?v=RwadKXYm7v4
in the description from this video
>The program featured professor Jordan Peterson, who is scheduled to be a guest on this podcast next month
that was december so i guess he should have appeared in January, which i was kind of looking forward to hearing. I'm not that guy so no idea about the ghosting sorry.

Thanks. A quick google search also gave me this: reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/7p6u1k/jordan_peterson_bailing_on_zero_books_podcast/
It's stated in the first paragraph that the podcast was postponed with a promise for it to be rescheduled. Now, I still think it's possible that Peterson might end up finally cracking under the pressure and refusing to talk to Zero Books because it might expose his terminological conflations when it comes to the way in which he describes his designated enemy, but that's really just speculation at this point.

Ah reddit, home of Jordan Peterson fans

You don't seem to know what neetbux are.

it's what fuels patreon, you think well adjusted working people would have the need to throw money at their screens to feel a sensation of being part of something?

Its money the government and well meaning parents unwisely give to a sorry class of lost children

Post your video, faggot.

there's no video, it's just a meme

I think it has something to do with frozen peaches

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Zizek is the Memerdan Memerson for Brocialists.

I suppose because Peterson repeatedly says “Marxists won’t debate me” as evidence of their intellectual poverty, yet Marxists are clambering to debate him, so I guess it’s just a matter of whether or not you care about Peterson’s intellectual honesty.

The Zero books podcast interview all sorts of people who that could happen. Zizek has been on it before.

What that commenter said, and then Zero’s twitter has been at tweeting Peterson in an attempt at public shamming. I’m not going to give screens of the question brainstorming. The whole line of questioning we had going basically revolved around trying to get him to talk specifically about how he talks about ‘postmodernism’ and ‘neomarxism’, and to bring up to him the significant anti-postmodern critiques that Marxists have written. Also to interrogate his views on Nietzsche and how they relate to postmodernism.

>Also you didn’t link your video

OK I relent. Here's da video: youtu.be/yUuysOMcyFc

Have you tried not being lowlife scum?

i liked ur video

Angry Zizekians? What about the angry Jordonites I see popping up here and there! Hope they have a meeting soon, Hype hype ZizekPeterson bowl!

Fucking kek
Zizek got destroyed by will self of all people

Peterson’s views on Nietzsche are already crystal clear. What purpose would this serve other than a gotcha?

Neitzsche fits JP's definition of PoMo quite nicely. It's an inherent tension I don't think he's ever addressed. I remember when he was mentioning the postmodernists, he characterized them as "a group with a dislike for grand narratives" and that they produced the toxic idea (which he ironically agrees with) that "facts have an infinite amount of interpretations". Seems like you could fit Nietzschean Perspectivism into that box with very little effort.

Right winger Stefan Molyneux also made a vid about it

youtu.be/UDGlSkJb_FM

Literally "my dad could beat up your dad" the thread. But I guess Zizek is more like a crazy uncle.

Is he an uncle because what he does is on par with molestation?

>ZIZEKIANS
>PETERSONIANS

AHAHAHAHAH STACYYYYYYYY WE'RE OLD AND CHAD DOESN'T WANT US ANYMOREEEE! WHAT SHOULD WE DO EXCEPT TAKE XANAX WITH WINE WHILE HAVING A MENTAL BREAKDOWN??!?!?

>terrible lighting
>oily hair
>"it's happening"

I lasted 5 seconds. You make a solid case for the internet being a mistake.

>Neitzsche fits JP's definition of PoMo quite nicely.
Not even remotely. Peterson concurs with Nietzsche on the proposition that there are shades and levels of truth and meaning rather than
>a group with a dislike for grand narratives"
Nietzche loved grand narratives. He invented some of the grandest and least plausible of them all.

>reddit spacing
"Opinion" discarded entirely

>Nietzche loved grand narratives
I'll just pretend this is bait and move on.

What else would you call his theory of racial survival?

I hope you realize that waving a pan around in a video that you can stage any way you want is unnecessary.
More globally speaking, try not to hurry as much as you speak through your nose. It could give more weight to your words.

But yeah, you're right, ZIzeks piece was completely disappointing - I'm sure he could have said something insightful about Peterson.

>deep grass
Question: what exactly is deep grass?
Also shit composition. Do you have a pdf tho, I wanna laugh some more.

You're a big guy,

You dull faggot, don't post your video if you can't handle a response. Here's the spoonfeeder version: if you don't care about how you present your opinion, no one will care about it. Youtube is a visual medium. People will discard your opinion if you don't try to make it look good. Even using your Zizek toilet photo as a static background image would have been better.

I'm not that guy and I'm not reading your post

ok so it's not just me who finds the new balenciaga shit ridiculous af

Peterson can always ignore the questions and confrontation and simply start talking about the dragon with the gold, or tell another anecdote. His dad rhetoric is indestructible.

gen.lib.rus.ec/search.php?req=Zizek antigone&lg_topic=libgen&open=0&view=simple&res=25&phrase=0&column=def
I think its the only piece of fiction Zizek has published. Its really bad, the characters often just speak like he copy and pasted from his non-fiction

Internet Marxist are some of the most easily upsettable people on the internet

Because you are, and Peterson is a fraud.

What, don't you think dualistic categories are neat? Archetypal theory is basically Hegel for psychologyfags.

not him but ur fukkin dumb like all pedersen fags that you sound like bait

fuck. this is a man boy

you're an idiot

thephilosophicalsalon.com/a-reply-to-my-critics-concerning-an-engagement-with-jordan-peterson/

>This is no place to develop extensively my views. To anyone interested in them, I propose to take a look at my book The Courage of Hopelessness, which has just appeared in the US. And a final note. I neither participate in Facebook nor do I tweet, but I was informed there are anonymous persons who are active in both media pretending to be me. All such cases are fakes. So I was surprised to learn that Peterson is challenging me to a debate, in response to a tweet operating under my name. If he really wants to, I am ready to do it during my next visit to New York next October.

wtf why have none of Peterson's fans or even Peterson himself READ Jung? why hasn't he read Nietzsche? fuck this fraud needs to be in a dialogue already

Peterson is the dumbest professor I've seen since day one he's such a low-level "intellectual"

Peterson in a debate against Zizek would be like a community college teach against a sophist

It would be fun.

That’s a lot of puling with no argument. Go ahead and prove me wrong if you can manage to solve two captchas on the same day.

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Nietzsche has no racial theory of survival. May I ask how many of his books have you read? Also it's obvious that you're unfamiliar with linguist David Crystal from the way you frame your response but what do I expect from an internet man boy who gets his learning from chans and youtube videos

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> Go ahead and prove me wrong if you can manage to solve two captchas on the same day
le please text correctly

go listen to englishist David Crystal and get some real intellectual sources in your life please soy boy

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>Nietzsche has no racial theory of survival
You should probably read him before discussing him online.
Nice dodge

I literally have to laugh at petersonfags

I haven't witnessed the uprising of such a cultural philistine during my life before

I asked you what books you have read?

Did you read them in order like he recommends you to?

How many years have you spent studying Nietzsche (assuming you hadn't only heard about him last year)

Do you have knowledge of German?

>Go ahead and prove me wrong
You are middle class redditor skin and bones man

they are the fedora-tier atheists of today

>muh superior logic and science
>woohoo we into books too like you
>waah we need daddy
Fucking postindustrial unwashed masses

>Nietzsche racial theory of survival

Jesus christ what's he gonna say next, the earth is flat

>Peterson utilizes Nietzsche
>"And this is why i think religion is so important!"

Peterson is literally the "philosopher" of the last man.

hmm i smart hmm pederson

>your prose
My sides hurt

This man is changing my life day by day. I've recently been gravitated toward his youtube videos in a time when my life was conquered by chaos and extreme gradual entropy. His way of thinking and interpreting the world and its attributes are so profound thats its changing my whole point of view of the world. As a black young man (21 years old to be exact) going to college, I've been surrounded by a huge glob of extreme left ideologies thats been interfering with my field of vision for the past few years. My ignorance of identity politics destroying the university at heart has eventually led me to this sort of blindness that is seen across most disciplines and with many of my peers. It is the work and ideas of Dr. Peterson that has led me to see this work of identity politics and post modernism, and has made me act against it. His work as also changed my life in other obvious (although not as obvious at times) ways, such as sorting out whats in front of you (the meme of cleaning your room, for example), which has a compounding effect on my sortation of life. Thank you for using the new media of the world (youtube for instance) to reach out to people of all ethnicities and ages with your words of encouragement, realness, and compassion. May your life and the rest of ours become the best version of itself.

Ive watched hours of his talks and nothing is says is remotely nietzschean, unless you count the movie Prometheus quote or if a singer like Rihanna quotes "what does not kill you makes you stronger" lol