God is the most logical conclusion for the existence of the universe.
Time and space began at the start of the universe, if our universe was born out of another universe of time and space that universe had to have a beginning as well, make this theory redundant. This means that whatever initiated the big bang was timeless and immaterial.
The universe can be quantified as an extremely complex set of mathematical codes and laws, from the proper perspective this would not seem so different from an architects designs, this would imply that it was a conscious entity who "designed" these equations.
Therefore whatever set fourth the universe was;
A) Eternal, timeless B) Immaterial and independent of physical matter C) Capable of creating unfathomably complex mathematical equations that work in unison
These are the essential features and the only ones that we are certain that whatever set fourth the universe has. Basing our predictions on these characteristics, this entity would have to have an extremely advanced consciousness existing out of space and time, eternal and immaterial - These are the essential characteristics of Godhood. Therefore we can assume that the universe was created by a God. This does not infer though, what religion or god worship is correct if any are, this simply provides the answers to the scientific and philosophical questions of "what created the universe?" and "is there life after death?". One could argue that we should follow the laws of the universe and nature for these are the unbreakable laws that "God" has undeniably given us.
Logan Green
>God is the most logical conclusion for the existence of the universe. >Posts a picture of an atheist
Camden Ramirez
Hitler was not an atheist.
Ryder Moore
But what if it was incidental. There doesn’t need to be a pyromaniac for a fire to start, some just happen.
Matthew Sullivan
Ok fine i admit it, he was a muslim. Are you happy now?
Nolan Adams
>brainlet
Lincoln Sanders
but who created god then?
Charles Hill
A false equivalence, fire creates simple primitive charcoal in chaos, the creation of an extremely complex ordered universe is completely different.
>The universe can be quantified as an extremely complex set of mathematical codes and laws, from the proper perspective this would not seem so different from an architects designs, this would imply that it was a conscious entity who "designed" these equations.
Wyatt Gray
He admired some of the ideas of Islam, but was not a Muslims himself.
Ethan Davis
I'm not sure if you even read what I said but I covered this extensively, God is outside of time, outside of time you are eternal you always exist. It is only within time something has to be "born".
John Barnes
It follows thus that ᚨᛊᚨᛏᚱᚢ is the one, true religion. but, on which days should we hold ᛒᛚᛟᛏ?
Alexander Peterson
I read what you said, why then the universe can't be eternal and timeless? At the end it would just implode into itself causing a big bang
Zachary Phillips
Although it is simplifying the universe to an analogy, the thought of the universe just becoming isn’t far fetched. No one knows what really started the Big Bang, but assuming a deity or higher power did is to take a leap of faith.
Blake Richardson
Because we know it had a beginning, because time exists, if time exists it must have a beginning. Not to mention we know it had a start because of the big bang.
I've stated why it is more then simply a leap of faith, but factual on all the evidence we have, nothing else is more likely, then the creator of the universe being an extremely complex consciousness outside of time and space, is it possible that something could of caused it? Yes. Is it likely? No.
Oliver Hernandez
And what is to say that it didn't exist before big bang? Self contained self imploding system seems more plausible than some other being wishing something out of nothing. Information can't be created or destroyed
Adam Phillips
> time exists That’s not technically true Also a we know that there are only really 2 board forces is life; entropy and order. These could have existed for an eternity until order and entropy converged and made the large kaboom happen
Joshua Bell
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Joseph White
Keep living and thinking, you'll grow out of this.
John Rogers
underrated post.
Justin Miller
You're referring to the argument that a universe is birth out of an old universe, no? Eventually you will reach the origin universe which would of been created outside of time.
If time did not exist you would not die, you die because of time. Time is a basic fact.
Is this a fallback argument against God whenever you can't debunk a point?
Condescending is not an argument
Jacob Howard
By Ockham's razor you can cut the "eternal and timeless god" part and just make the cosmos eternal and timeless(And by cosmos I mean everything that has ever existed before, during and after the big bang). You are assigning characteristics to a god you are not sure that exists, instead of just assigning these same characteristics to the cosmos(Which you can with little to no doubt affirm it exists).
Although this is really a pointless conversation, your logic has no end. As some user pointed earlier, you are trapped in your small circular logic echo chamber.
Jackson Martin
>but was not a Muslims himself. You don't say? I think he was one man, if I remember correctly.
Cooper Scott
No user We die from mainly outside sources, but to people who die of old age, their cells stop regenerating and thus their bodies become weaker and eventually fails, leading to death. If we can have cells that regenerate themselves forever then we have immortality. It’s not time but lose of energy
Mason Miller
Circular logic works and the reason for it is that everybody naturally supports it, only to be uprooted by cuckstianity with its linear way.
Easton Wood
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Noah Brooks
The existence of God is evident. The universe itself stands as testament to the Creator. Atheists have no excuse except their ignorance of that which is before them. Those who have heard the Gospel yet reject God still, they disbelieve simply because they do not want to retain the knowledge of God, and so God has given them over to a reprobate mind. They have violated the Great and Foremost Commandment. Please pray that they do not commit the One Unforgivable Sin as well. God have mercy on them. God have mercy on us all.
Lucas Jones
Veeky Forums - literature religitards fuck off
Connor Ross
>The universe can be quantified as an extremely complex set of mathematical codes and laws, from the proper perspective this would not seem so different from an architects designs, this would imply that it was a conscious entity who "designed" these equations.