Why did Anglo and German philosophy diverge so sharply in the late 19th/20th century?

Why did Anglo and German philosophy diverge so sharply in the late 19th/20th century?

The weather in Britain necessitates a certain way of thinking

WWI and WWII

their empire got too big so they said screw philosophy and went all business to handle it

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They got so cocky they decided they must be right about absolutely everything and stopped bothering to even entertain ideas outside their narrow positivist vision

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why are modern Anglos so depressing

Because all of their history is in the past and everyone knows it

isn't it the same for the rest of western Europe?
it all looks downhill to me, thinking I should go full Slav before it's too late

Why do you think Slavs have it any better? Our glory days were during socialism, it's been downhill ever since.

because science and math gained such prominence. So basically philosophy split between philosophers who knew science and math and those who were interested in it (analytic) and those that didn't and weren't (continental).

Don't worry boys, the white man has a bright red history in front of us

elon musk is the worst of the unwashed celebrities

I wish we were back in greekroman times when the people in power were synonymous with the people most engaged in classical education

I agree but we have to make do with what we have

O Mars, bright red Mars,
The Greeks called you the conquerer
So that we may conquer thee

Shit theories - try again, pseuds

If you think this doesn’t apply to all of Europe then think again, honey

Why not? Hubris is never something to underestimate
They became weak and soft in their comfortable position and refused to face the painful questions the Germans did

what the can i say, i'm from austria

>t. Bernhard
You mean Anglo and Teuto-french philosophy.

i think the analytic part came from the wiener kreis. It was the result of WW1, they thought that the old ideas about humans were worth nothing because if they had any merit, the war would not have happened. So they wanted to rationalize the world and humans completely to avoid such a mistake again.

Philosophy is worthless in a capitalist world because you can't really sell or monetize it.

When did Frrge, Wittgenstein, and the Vienna circle become anglos.

this is beautiful

Your optimism astounds me.
Specially because Jordan Peterson and several other self-help faggots pretending to be philosophers already exist.

They were always distinct, there were mega-autists on both sides but it was always a distinctly separate form of autism.

Tell that to Alain de Botton

It diverged well before that.

>Teuto-french
No, the French contributed nothing. Leeching off German influences and misunderstanding their ideas for a whole career doesn’t count.

Wittgenstein literally became a British citizen and willingly spent his entire philosophical career at Cambridge. He’s buried in England, he’s as good as Anglo.

It's hilarious how you guys fetishize Slav countries over Western Europe when tons of young Slavic people flee for greener pastures (i.e. West Europe)

No Wittgenstein is Irish

Would it be fair to say that Thomas Hobbes is one of the few Anglo thinkers who can be compared to the continentals?

Oh and Carlyle too.

Hobbes conducted his writing career in France

Just stop. Continentals are obscenely overrated.

So? He was in exile and was writing about the English civil war. He went back to England as soon as it was safe for him. He’s Anglo through and through, honey.

Because most of Anglo "thought" in the 20th century has been more or less a reaction to German and French intellectuals
Psychoanalysis is popular? lets push evolutionary psychology to counter it
Same with the conty and analytic divide, it's like anglos are still dickriding their era of empiricism from Locke and Hume and just wouldn't accept any other foreign approach to things

The Slav meme needs to end. The Slav lacks a soul, the Slav lacks feelings, the Slav lacks humanity. The Slav is nothing more than swine ready for butcher, no other purpose in life but to die.

Continental: ok that idea is interesting, lets explore it and create theoric models that allow us to contemplate it in manners that normal day to day reason cant so we get a better understanding :)
Analytic autism: wtf that idea goes beyond my extreamly limited and always changing-in-results-during-history method! It will not make a profit in our market! Lets just ignore it and lets keep hold on our ideology for ever haha we are so clever haha lets pretend we are doing philosophy while just playing with abstraction-puzzles haha

>He’s Anglo through and through, honey.

Are you the same person who just claimed Wittgenstein was Anglo because he worked in Cambridge?

>all of their history is in the past
holy...

No but they're completely different cases anyway

In any case there's much to be said about Hobbes and the Capetian tradition of Absolutism, he was not so untouched by France as you pretend

The British are terrible at philosophy.

t. Brit

Wittgenstein: Spends entire career in Britain developing his ideas with British philosophers, lecturing in English, applying for and attaining British citizenship, begins and ends his life's only romantic relationships with three British men, volunteers against his own country to support Britain in WW2, leaves his estate to British friends and colleagues, buried in Cambridge.

Hobbes: Was forced on fear of death to relocate to France for a few years whilst writing for and about his home country, returns as soon as its safe to.

Whats your point?

It's simpler than that. I think Nietzsche summed it up well:

>There has hitherto been no philosopher in whose hands philosophy has not become an apologia for knowledge; on this point at least each of them is an optimist, inasmuch as he believes that knowledge must be in the highest degree useful.

You seemed to be hinting that he's basically a continental philosopher though, which is just ridiculous.

Well the distinction back then was arbitrary so it makes no difference

And yet if I had said "yeah you're right Hobbes was basically French" then you wouldn't have called the distinctions arbitrary. The magic of moving goal posts strikes again.

I'm not even the guy you were originally replying to. There's no need to be upset Trevor

Because the would-be Anglo philosophers were too busy conquering the world whilst the German philosophers were busy being autistic basement dwellers, contriving up autistic nonsense.

You're thinking of the 18th century retard, by the turn of the 20th century Britain was already facing its decline in relevance while Germany was on the rise

desu i'm more referring to the 19th century as a whole.

There wasn't really any such thing. Britain was doomed from the moment parliament dissolved the East Indian Company. That was the point when it went from an Empire built on adventurers and innovators to being co-opted by effeminate aristocrats and grocers.

>That was the point when it went from an Empire built on adventurers and innovators to being co-opted by effeminate aristocrats and grocers.

>who is Rhodes
>who is Chamberlain
>who is Livingstone
>who is Parkes

>their history is in the past
Noggin = joggin

If you knew about the history of Rhodesia you would know it propsered IN SPITE of the British Empire not because of it

I would guess it has to do with the different goals of philosphy in both countries.