The Prince

Honest opinions on The Prince.

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He's a pretty good guy, I don't think we should poison him

Essential political philosophy, get to it as soon as you are done with Hobbes.

Breddy gud. Only NEETs don't think it's principles are widely applicable.

Is Discourses on Livy any good?

As an analysis of the reasons that various kingdoms and countries have fallen over time, it's a valuable historic resource. The technology cited in the book may be outdated, but Machiavelli's opinions on loyalty, love and fear and a ruler being cruel remain true even today. The part where he discusses how a common person becoming a ruler will be tougher than a royal person taking over because they will have nothing in common with the upper class was eye-opening for me. His descriptions of the working class remains true even today.

One of the most fun and agreeable philosophical reads.
He says several times that you should be like how he describes for the greater good, to keep true evil and tyrants at bay. Nobody like a nice guy.

Less stereotypically machiavellian, I'd say it's equally necessary to read before saying anything about him.

It's not a book Veeky Forums deserves, but it is a book Veeky Forums needs right now

I would say it's more important. The Prince is a work he wrote to ingratiate himself with someone. The Discourses on Livy more accurately reflect what he actually believed.