I'm essentially stupid...

IQ is a real thing

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It's not your fault, brainlet. Society pushes this fetishization of intelligence (only on a superficial, consumer friendly level) to a point where everyone feels like they have a voice and valid opinions. No. Nature intended that only a few privileged could think. Whoever is intelligent enough to be one of them knows this from the bottom of his heart. There is an innate difference between plebs and yourself. It's a fucking hard feeling to live with, especially if you're born into christianity influenced cultures and not born into aristocracy or the likes. Reading the great philosophers will open you to how many people misinterpret their messages on an absurd level. It's fucking infuriating. As much as people like to shit on IQ, I've never met anyone worth their brain with an IQ lower than 145. Sorry. Just do something else and stop hogging the way for actual thinkers.

you can at best add 5-8 iq points from rigorous training, excess sleep and good diet. that will fall away with time and as soon as you age or let up you’ll regress back to where you were. they can’t do anything about being stupid, no one can. schooling only helps you with what you are already capable of it does not grant the power to surpass one’s biological limits. dumb spics, normalfag whites, niggers will never not be dumb

Yea? You measured everybody's IQ?

>Nature intended that only a few privileged could think.
Intend is wrong
>Reading the great philosophers will open you to how many people misinterpret their messages on an absurd level. It's fucking infuriating.
This, but for literature too
>Just do something else and stop hogging the way for actual thinkers.
It's pretty hard to hog a way when you can't into it. Maybe discussion, but it's dismissed as readily as it's created
>As much as people like to shit on IQ, I've never met anyone worth their brain with an IQ lower than 145.
Feinman was 125, also, do you test everyone you meet? Worth would be based on your definition and is tantamount to "I don't like people that don't ratiocinate well." Worth on what scale? Yours? What are you worth to yourself? Surely that's wrong. Is worth intellect? Do you have a pet? Do you beat your small child because it's not smart yet? So potential is worth. So, if potential is worth, then an individual that builds a house by himself for his family is worth less than an abusive alcoholic because of IQ disparities? Nice

Your arguments are bad

Shut up brainlet. Every intelligent person I've met knew their IQ since they were tested during their childhood. Well, 'every' is a stretch since I've only met two actual geniuses. You wouldn't know since you were too dumb for adults, teachers and psychologists to take notice. We're not living the same life, nor we're seeing the same people, is all.

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Shut up, you fucking faggot. You're a nobody browsing an image board where people communicate by posting anime titties.

Don't beat yourself up, OP. What specifically are you failing to understand?

>claims high IQ
>no comma in "shut up brainlet"
>"nor we are"
kek

Yea? You must have an extraordinary wit to infer we have different lives. Yet here we are.

You have a fragile ego. That's not particular smart or intelligent. But I'm sure you can recognise patterns in number sequences really well. That's nice.

mostly math stuff but just in general a lot of stuff just sort of whizzes over my head. And in spite of this I will get some frisson every now and then about some intellectual project like writing a fugue and it quickly crashes and burns.

Sleep enough, make sure you're reading somewhere quiet, eat well, exercise, practice for a couple months, and check your progress

WUBBA-LUBBA-DUB-DUB! I TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLE MORTY! I'M PICKLE RIIIICK!

It sounds like you're frustrated that it's not coming to you all at once. Any sort of intellectual pursuit is mentally exhausting; even for geniuses that's often the case. It's all relative. Their stakes are just higher.

I think you should keep trying if you enjoy it. Forget about appearing smart or pulling it off in one day. Just do it because you enjoy it and it's stimulating for your brain.

I am indeed a nobody on this website. But outside, my experiences prove otherwise as I have been handled by top professionals and put in 'elite' schools (There are actual schools for highly gifted individuals, which are mostly kept under the radar. They consist of future sociopathic leaders and suicidal failures) I got out when I was 18, I always hated school. I'm an advocate of no rules, no laws, no institutions. Afterall civilization was built by and for the weak. Funnily enough, the only author who captured this feeling of systemic oppresion with adequate rage is Kaczynski. The other one who had good insights into the nature of institutions was Jesus but unfortunately I don't have any semblance of faith and I'm too honest to fake it.
If only we could have a discussion about intelligence on a thread dedicated to it, without you having to wipe your eyes every time I hit reply, that would be good. What I meant to share was that actual intelligent people, those capable of comprehending philosophy the way the original authors meant it are few and far in between.
? There is no argument to be had here.

If it can make all you brainlets feel better, I'm a drug addict neet.

ty for this new copypasta
you will go down in real life as a failure
but you will go down in Veeky Forums history as a meme

Lmao at the complete dummies with feelings of inadequacy. Your very presence on this board prove you have interest in intellectual matters. Your bitter replies prove you don't have what you're looking for.

>mfw im part of the population people lie about

Lmao guy talking about how people with 145 iq or higher are the only unique thinkers is actually correct all you other faggots think because smart people have iq we have to be nice, or we must have a weak personality.

Truth is every person with their damn in intelligence also have the largest personalities, which comes of to the dumber few as ego.

I might be a dumbass but I can recognize blatant samefagging when I see it.

>samefag
you have to go back

you said mfw but there's no macro

Your a dumb ass because you didnt notice the post times.
Grow up, get your ego checked

>unique thinkers
>being this ontologically lazy
>145 iq+
whew lad, apparently threshold theory applies

My b

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Lmao thanks. They can't live with themselves as even their preconceived notion of how intelligent people behave are wrong. It's all feel better bullshit. I fucked two known actresses (western europe), do drugs, play 3 instruments, sociable, great at dancing. Sorry losers. Our lives are so over the top they seem like copy pastas.
seems like you're simply a dumbass. no other discernable talent as we're two posters.
>samefagging with 30seconds in between replies. mmh

Im not lazy at all, there is a difference between free thinking and unique pathways of thought.

>comprehending philosophy the way the original authors meant it are few and far in between.

>he is a bona fide Schleiermachian hermeneutician while at the same time claiming intellectual superiority

L.M.A.O.

Free thinking doesn't really hold water, you're looking for fully flushed-out systematic analyses that can hold the world in alternative matrices of organization. It's a function of IQ, I'll concede, but the extent to which it becomes a salient predictor diminshes rapidly after 120.

>says to check post times
>fails to do so himself

I was only referring to the post 10+ posts ago and this one while you're acting as though two posts in quick succession were the same guy saying the exact same thing.

>Our lives are so over the top they seem like copy pastas.

This kind of boasting is just not capable of working on Veeky Forums, it is a performative contradiction.

It was my first post in this thread quite obviously.

I was using free thinking as people who don't buy into pre-conceived thought systems.

Tbqh my life is drastically different from yours, ive been leached off my entire life even by my family.
But yeah, if I want something I pretty much get it.

No, not obvious at all. But granted maybe you're both idiots. If only 0.25 of the population had intellect with utility then absolutely nothing would get done. Its entirely obvious that anyone who can think ought to do so because there are already far too many p-zombies as it is.

It's fucking amazing, whenever people like you use the term "obviously" my mind reads it out in the whiny autist voice of Sherlock as played by Cumberbatch.

What the fuck is wrong with you? You can’t read Wikipedia articles?

I don’t believe in IQ, it’s complete bullshit. There will NEVER be a way to accurately measure intelligence. That’s all subjective.

But there is such a thing as intelligence.

>I don’t believe in IQ, it’s complete bullshit.

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that's what brainlets say

Let’s take a hypothetical situation with six individuals and two subjects.

Individual X is a neuroscientist and individual Y is a psychologist. They derive two tests for intelligence, X’ and Y’.

The other individuals are all subjective evaluations of others intelligence, and they come from varied backgrounds. Individual A has graduated high school. Individual B has graduated college. Individual C has graduated graduate college and individual D is a high school drop out.

All individuals take tests X’ and Y’. Individual A, say, scored the best on these tests.

Now the subjects are subject alpha and subject beta. Subject alpha says something interesting about knowledge that only people who have gone to college would know about, and subject beta then says something that only people who have gone to graduate school for neuroscience would understand.

First all the individuals decide who they think is the smartest.

For subject alpha, individuals A, B, D, and Y think he is the smartest.

For subject alpha, obviously individuals C and X consider him the most intelligent.

Then they take the IQ tests administered.

X’ AND Y’ end up scoring alpha far higher than beta.

Now we have a few observations here to note: that excluding knowledge, the general behavior and facets of linguistic understanding and reason (more commonly attributed to culture and income class) seep their way into intelligence tests of this kind. Hence why subject alpha scored the highest on the exams and A, who scored the highest out of the other four individuals, said he was the most intelligent.

Second, it should be noted that it demonstrably has NOTHING to do with subject knowledge. So if that was your criticism of my logic, that point has been thrown out the window. Hence why X though subject beta said the smartest thing but his test scored subject alpha better.

Clearly there must be some discrepancy here though, since subject beta was the one who went to graduate school for neuroscience, which was the same thing the designer of test X’ did!!!! Hahaha

The only mistake I made in the whole post is that when considering the second subject I said ‘alpha’ instead of ‘beta’

God forgive me

IQ tests are reliable because they have high predictive validity. it's the best thing you can get in social science and psychology.

And I just disproved that, enjoy succumbing to the fallacy of believing that there are certain indicators of intelligence. Those sorts of things are relative and subjective. Please do read next time

You seem to assume that these tests are contaminated by the biases of the test-makers but actually absolutely everything is done to eliminate these biases and render something based on pure modal logic and spatial relationships. Of course people can appear smart while being dumb, that's why we have pseuds.

>that excluding knowledge, the general behavior and facets of linguistic understanding and reason (more commonly attributed to culture and income class) seep their way into intelligence tests of this kind

Learn stats my man. Do some more reading. Ravens Matrices Test. ect. The tests are designed to remove these flaws. Nice dubs tho.

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you're trying
thats what makes the human race better off
more people should be behaving like you

That wasn’t what I was saying at all.
Wrong. It’s ineffective. Besides, you really didn’t address the other points I made there.

Listen plebs, in order to be enlightened you must shed the carapace of evolutionary psychology, and this, Darwinism and then you will be truly intelligent

Wake up. Academia is flawed

>That wasn’t what I was saying at all

I tried, sorry

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Ive even scored high on IQ, which is nice, but it just doesn’t mean anything

Given that you came up with all that and nobody can derive the essential meaning here, I don't doubt it. But I guess my question is why can't we just assume what everyone thinks of others intelligence is irrelevant and defer to the tests?

Also

>implying it doesn’t take a high IQ to disprove IQ

actually that was exactly the antithetical of my post hahahahahahahahah

Because that loses something in the essence. Why not derive this persons intelligence from WHAT he is saying rather than HOW he is thinking?

People think I'm intelligent but I'm actually an idiot. I have them all fooled. Give me an IQ test and the truth is revealed

If everyone thinks you’re intelligent but actually an idiot, that means you’re a virgin on Veeky Forums who has scored high on an IQ test.

Unironically take adderall. A long life as a brainlet isn’t worth it. I’d rather die at 40

This assumes that we rank intelligence by understanding rather than recognition of something beyond our understanding. I'd argue your key thesis is that IQ tests are only as valid as your maker is intelligent, but the addition of knowledge base to this logic, and only the addition, is what invalidates the IQ test. Also, I couldn't follow your variable Alpha and Beta introduction for the life of me

This thread

youtube.com/watch?v=v5knhWYvmL8

>go goes right around the table across George's and Elaine's legs rather than left around

Adderall won't do anything. He should take nootropics, get good sleep, and hit the gym. Plus do math problems and read.

Do you believe you don't have the ability to understand or just haven't put the proper effort in?

Learn and stop being a brainlet

>philosophy course.

LMAO!!! What a waste of money and time.

>What is neuroplasticity?

>I am indeed a nobody on this website. But outside, my experiences prove otherwise as I have been handled by top professionals and put in 'elite' schools (There are actual schools for highly gifted individuals, which are mostly kept under the radar. They consist of future sociopathic leaders and suicidal failures) I got out when I was 18, I always hated school. I'm an advocate of no rules, no laws, no institutions. Afterall civilization was built by and for the weak. Funnily enough, the only author who captured this feeling of systemic oppresion with adequate rage is Kaczynski. The other one who had good insights into the nature of institutions was Jesus but unfortunately I don't have any semblance of faith and I'm too honest to fake it.
If only we could have a discussion about intelligence on a thread dedicated to it, without you having to wipe your eyes every time I hit reply, that would be good. What I meant to share was that actual intelligent people, those capable of comprehending philosophy the way the original authors meant it are few and far in between.

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Mathematical propositions and/or intense analytical philosophy literally change your perception of life and help you think clearer.

I know I can logically reason better after reading and analyzing a Diophantine equation

12 hrs of hard labor job over 6 day workweek. cures your sleeping problem too.

>those capable of comprehending philosophy the way the original authors meant it are few and far in between.

Is this true? I dont have much trouble handling these topics, just my limited vocabulary can sometimes be a hurdle.

...something that has nothing to do with intelligence?

Exercise, eat healthy, and socialize.

You're not too dumb to grasp the stuff. It's that your mental integrity is suffering from your lack of physical training.

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