Papists say works are required for salvation

>Papists say works are required for salvation
>Orthocucks say works are required for salvation

Daily reminder that faith alone is required for salvation

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Ephesians 2:8-9

>here's my opinion
>daily reminder that my opinion is correct
*insert bull horns here*

Just passing by to remind you all that consciousness and all forms of thoughts end when your brain dies.

thoughts =/= consciousness

It's a silly distinction to make. Belief in the teachings of Christ obligate you to serve your fellow man. Being selfish and being Christian are mutually exclusive.

If you're selfish then it is clear that you do not actually believe in Christ's teachings.

Reminder that Luther had to censor his bibles to remove proof that works and faith are both required.

>I can be a total fucking asshat douchebag asshole that only ever sins and never helps the needy
>as long as I tell Jesus that he better take me to Heaven or else

I don't get these kinds of Protestants.

Are you a farmer? That might explain all the straw men you've encountered. . .

We're all sinners, everyone, you are no better. But we don't all have faith.

Faith without works is dead.

That's about justification, not about salvation.

The bible literally says both. It contradicts itself.

>implying having faith isn't a work

No, it doesn't. In one context, "works" is referring to stuff under the old law, like circumcision and eating kosher. In another, it's referring to stuff like helping the poor.

Consciousness is just thought that examine itself.
It is not all thoughts, but it can't exist without a brain that produces thoughts.

>Consciousness is just though
how the fuck did you came up with that BS
consciousness is pure awareness of what's happening in present moment it's the act of experiencing
a thought can't be aware of itself, you are not your thoughts you are observing your thoughts by consciousness, thoughts can't observe they're just these messages "randomly" generated by the machine that is your brain

this

>thoughts =/= consciousness
he didnt imply that

>christianity

>Implying non-sola fidae means pelagianism, despite those being condemned early on by the Church;
>implying fidae means sola fidae;
>No true christian;

If the Catholics and the Orthodox say something is so, it is most certainly so.

t. Byzantine Rite Catholic

when It comes to salvation GOD looks at the heart .

t. christian

he literally said
>Consciousness is just thought that examine itself

Isn't it a funny coincidence how this belief started to get really popular after the discovery of the new world and the rise of the middle class?

Actions speak louder than thoughts
T. Christian in doubt

Christians should get their own board, these threads are insufferable.

Arguably untrue.

Not even christian but that's retarded. How can you have strong enough faith yet not have it reflected on works?

Protestants say they are not works based. But most of the time they're fooling themselves.

They still expect you to lead a pious life of moderate to strict self control and try to make things they don't like illegal in a never ending quest to "save the world from sin and decadence".

then do the arguing, you can start by addresing the points I presented here

And that why America is the fattest country in the world

Eating isn't even a sin, that's a lie concocted by the Whore of Babylon

>godcucks do all this in vain but nothing stops the eventual void

proof?

I have neither.

daily reminder the bible says exactly the opposite, and because of that Luther wanted to eliminate the book of James from the Bible

James 2:24
"So you see, we are shown to be right with God by what we do, not by faith alone."

Protestantism in an innovation of the last 500 years, and all the splinter groups made of people who interpret the bible their own way are enough proof of its heretical nature.

Daily Reminder that James was talking about earthly approval and Paul was talking about Godly approval.

If you want to be approved by men, follow James the Judaizer.

If you want to be approved by God, follow Jesus.

Gluttony is and it includes food.

Fuck off, Constantishill, you big liar.

Of course a thought can examine itself.
And when you're aware of what is happening you're thinking about it.

Seems like we have different meanings for thought. I use it to mean intellectual processes that are more than feelings, sensations and emotions.
A thought is not a sentence voiced in your head, it's the process resulting in that sentence.

Regardless of the word you prefer to use, my very simple point was that such things stop when the brain dies. And there is nothing left to save or justify.

What do you mean by justification?

He said that in another post, though, so your criticism isn't valid.

>Being a nihilist

you know, meditation is all about being conscious of the present moment, if you are experienced, after a while of meditation toughs stop to arise and the area of your brain that generates them turns off
your brain is just a machine, consciousness is experience itself, you can't reduce it to brain processes and neurotransmitters