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Fuck this guy

woah dude chill

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I loathe Wellington and think John Churchill, the Duke of Marlborough was a far better commander, but Wellington was forced to fight a protracted campaign in Iberia for 6 years. His limited army backed by the Spanish guerrillas constantly bled invaluable French manpower and treasure in a pointless foray. He took advantage of the terrain and the haphazard lines of communication and supply to give the French occupational forces a good thrashing.

Those lessons from Spain like the use of the reverse slope to hide his true strength allowed the Prussians to arrive en masse and help turn the tide of the battle. It really bothers me that Waterloo literature makes it look like the British were able to defeat Napoleon without Germanic help...despite the fact that there were more German-speakers in Wellington's army than English, Welsh, Scots, and Irish. Not to mention the large Dutch contingent.

If anything, Waterloo was an Anglo-Dutch-German victory; ALL the allies were essential in thwarting Napoleon. I don't mind the Royal Navy being lionized in history because they WERE uncontested and contributed with the blockade that weakened Napoleon's hold on Europe. Not to mention bonafide badass captains like Thomas Cochrane doing all sorts of feats that make Hornblower and Aubrey look like rank amateurs.

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>Michel Ney
>Ney led one of the last infantry charges, shouting to his men: "Come see how a marshal of France dies!

>"Soldiers, when I give the command to fire, fire straight at my heart. Wait for the order. It will be my last to you. I protest against my condemnation. I have fought a hundred battles for France, and not one against her ... Soldiers, fire!"

God damn, what a madman

Why would he speak in English to his troops? I think you are making this up

How is Franz Ferdinand a piece of shit? He actually wanted to reform the Empire so that the Slavic populations would actually have a say in the government. He felt that the Magyars had way too much power and felt a Tripartite government would've brought some checks and balances.

If anything, the biggest piece of shit in the Austro-Hungarian Empire in 1914 was Franz Conrad von Hötzendorf who vehemently wanted to wage war on Serbia.

Poor Ney...he had the biggest pair of cojones but no brain. He wasn't fit to be a marshal.

>His limited army backed by the Spanish guerrillas constantly bled invaluable French manpower and treasure in a pointless foray.

Huehuehue
Wellington's "limited" army faced an even more limited French army on what was a secondary theater Napoleon barely cared about

And yet, despite never facing Napoleon or the real Grande Armee, it still took Wellington 6 fucking years to take back Spain

>He wasn't fit to be a marshal.
>Won the majority of his battles

how about you hang yourself my man

For the same reason Caesar and Sun Tzu did
Cretin

Philistine

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I know that. But Napoleon couldn't afford to lose face and allow Portugal (as well as Spain) to be a leak in his Continental System. If he pulled his troops out, it would be seen as weakness. Meanwhile, British goods would flood Europe via this Iberian connection.

The whole Peninsular War was a chance for Britain's small army and its naval supremacy to take advantage of ideal terrain. Iberia had large coastlines where supplies could be ferried and depots set up. Meanwhile, the Lines of Torres Vedras ensured that Wellington can always fall back to safety in case his army was at risk (which happened several times throughout the course of the campaign). The countryside was picked clean of supplies and guerrillas constantly harassed the French armies so there was never a decisive engagement like they did to John Moore.

Ney was more suited to be a cavalry commander than a Marshal of France. Napoleon's stepson Eugene deserved the baton more than Ney since he was quite talented as a commander.

He said worst, not based.

A man can be based and a piece of shit at the same time.

John Green

I love John Green

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Watch out, Veeky Forums thinks he's a revisionist liberal piece of shit and they'll be on your heals like the Mongols.

So bait?

Indirectly, so somewhat undoe, but still.

Politicians

>causing the Mexicans
He really was

inb4 /leftypol/ asspain

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I don't think he was the biggest piece of shit in history (he was kind of a piece of shit from what I've heard of his personal life, though), but the guys who took his theory and ran with it definitely were pretty up there.

Damn that cape is badass as fuck.

Well Hitler was a badass guy I guess. Taking whatever he wants, rearranging the world map just because why not? Letting others do his will etc...

Someone explain this photo to me; did he actually wear a cape or is it just a famous photoshop?

>haha once I let Strongbow marry my daughter and give him a claim on my throne he'll be sure to obey me :^)

If I had a time machine I would kill him myself.
Of course the most russian way possible with an AK-47 drinking vodka while a t-shirt that say bring back soviet union.

>Not all heroes wear ca.....

Did he really fuck up that much?

He is as close to the Antichrist as you can get. He was just a lowly peasant but he used his charisma, sexual prowess (He told women fucking him would relieve them of their sins) and religious authority to control people and he even "controlled" the Czars wive which means during WW1 he basically controlled Russia. He was also an alleged healer.

It still collapsed (Maybe because of Rasputin) and the Bolsheviks took over, which means Rasputin assissted the communists.

Seriously if the antichrist existed this is exactly how he would get to power. By hypnotizing people and using his dick to get close to powerful women.

>attributing all that to Rasputin

this meme needs to stop

Sort of missing the fact that Wellingtons mixed army at Waterloo made it far harder to effectively command because of all the different fucking nationalities in it. People like to play up the role of the Dutch and Germanic regiments (not talking about the Prussians here) but sort of forget that many of these units were recently raised and very untrained too; this in comparison to the British units which were veterans and who, as a result, saw some of the fiercest fighting.

Facing this army was one which was unified under 1 national identity, was stuffed full of veterans and had incredibly high morale, which is not something that could be said for Wellington's force (those Dutch and German regiments especially were kind of shaky)

Yeah but to be fair Didius Julianus wasn't fit to be emperor of Rome, if he didn't overthrow him someone else would have. Septimius Severus' greatest crime was bringing pic related into the world, an even bigger prick. Its ironic that Mr. 'Disdain for plebs' is also Mr. 'Citizenship for fucking everyone'.

I was teached at school that Rasputin was just a 'strange person' and he really was. As I know he helped tsar's family to get over with the wickness of their child that's why emperor and his family believed him. I don't think that he had so much influence over the emperor to be able to rule army.

This cunt. Fuck her.

it's said that after falling off his horse and having his head mashed on the ground, the concussion changed his personality: made him more rash and impetuous hence the final charge in waterloo, where even a less seasoned marshal would think twice before charging infantry retreating to a hill
needless to say they reformed into a square and destroyed the charging cuirassiers who had no choice of spotting the defensive formation until it was too late

also, wellington just needed to win a single engagement against napoleon - that was enough to end the whole campaign once and for all

He's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now.

are you russian? because only russians could be stupid enough to eat all that propaganda...

>inb4 stalin wasn't bad at all!!! he was just poorly advised!

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Fuck off Romanov-apologist faggot. Rasputin wasn't a big deal in bringing down Imperial Russia.

Not ironic at all. He wanted more people to disdain.

Hernan Cortés... yes he was a son of a bith but Pedro de Alvarado and Francisco Pizarro were filthy motherfuckers, cruel, intolerant, greed- driven, heaten dogs.

Mouse soldier scene in nutcracker ballet

You're not wrong. Diogenes was a magnificent bastard.

Literally did nothing wrong

Rosa fucking Luxemburg

so, ney was high on the revolution?
damn

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Rasputin was member of a neocarpocratian sect.

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Get the fuck out faggot

it's not a cape as in superhero cape, it's probably a long vest which was possibly worn as a cape as well

fucking scum tier history pleb thread

ivan the terrible was a mistake
then lenin

before them it was genghis khan
and before khan it was a mystery

man you idiots dont know shit about roman history

get the fuck out

Fucking Cadorna deserves at least an honorable mention.

>and had incredibly high morale

One may wonder why given the odds they faced in that campaign...

>you idiots don't know shit about roman history

How so? At least say why. is just an opinion and is correct, although Caracalla didn't give citizenship to everyone but rather free men in the empire. So why don't you actually contribute to the thread or fuck off

You know where too go, back to /pol/

To be fair, if it wasn't him it'd just be some other guy. Nothing much was going to get inbetween Spain and all those potential precious metal resources

Kek.

The Grande Armée died during the campaign of Russia, the soldiers of Waterloo were not full of vets

Napoleon himself said his true mistake was made in Spain

What did he do wrong?

>Implying that would kill him

Yeah, but that's another thing.

His advisors convinced him it would be good, well fuck.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequences_of_Nazism

Nazism, not even once

It's true that Eugene was pretty good, but you're severely underestimating Ney. He was a monster on the battlefield and won many battles, which aren't all due to his reckless charging.
Besides, the whole Waterloo blunder wasn't really a stupidity; if the charge didn't break the scots then the battle was lost anyway.

Why? One night him and Engles went pub touring in Soho, Marx grabbed Engles's revolver and started shooting out all the street lamps. Both of them fell over laughing in a drunken stupor.

How was he an asshole? He believed he was doing the right thing with his political agitating, he never intended for Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao, etc to use his works in the way that they did through the oppression of liberty and mass murder.

>sent kids to concentration camps to die of starvation disease, execution, etc just for being born.
>nothing wrong

>Massacred two towns full of civilians in revenge for the assassination of heydrich when they were the wrong towns
>nothing wrong

>these are justtwo examples off the top of my head.

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Kinda sad that the only funny story abot Marx involves him vandalising public property

>yes, well done Napoleon, well done

>HOWEVER

>I am going to win this referendum and then the next elections and be Prime Minister 5 more years my dear like Edward Heath in 1973
pighead fucker

That would be Tsar Alexander I after the Battle of Borodino

Honestly, probably this guy right here, if we go by the standard of Moderns claiming Hitler is the worst person who ever lived.

This guy probably has more blood on his hand, in a time before mechanized slaughter became a thing, in addition to being the most prolific serial rapist in human history.

How people can try to rewrite Alexander as a piece of shit and apologize for Genghis in the same breath is disgusting

>spend your entire career in one fucking spot
>fail every attack in said spot
>manage to lose half of Italy's army
>become Romeaboo faggot who kills countless numbers of own men

Jesus Christ, Italy really could not do war after unifying

>"What the bloody hell do you mean the Somme is getting bogged down? THROW MORE MEN AT THEM!"

Leopold II was a pretty huge piece of shit, without a doubt. I think only Otto von Bismarck or Kaiser Wilhelm II might have been more colossal pieces of shit than Leopold in the pre-WW2 era.

>Uses all his focus on capturing Rome, a publicly declared open city
>Lets the entire 7th Army escape unscathed behind the Gustav Line

oh boy it's another part of the lions led by donkeys meme

>mfw I'm not alone in realizing Wellington would've been crushed if he didn't have a billion slav fucks supporting him

beady

this

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He is the most respected man on earth! HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT!?!?!

More like

>I'm gonna fuck my entire country because my party is divided!

Heh, maybe not having Rasputin's voodoo was why the Russian war effort was so dysmal.

But no, he didn't have control over the army. Nicky was Autocrat, so it all ultimately came down to him. He was bas at war, and many of his generals were just as bad, if not worse.

Rasputin had the most influence when Nicky wasn't around. At those times, the Queen served more or less as Regent, and she definitely had Rasputin in her ear.

He might not have been a huge factor in the fall of the Romanovs, but he did have his fair share of fuck ups. Everyone in the court reviled him. Hell, even Nicky himself couldn't stand the man and had him sent away, but he ultimately called him back when Alexei got sick again. So the assassination if Rasputin was a huge act of defiance agains the royal family.