So I just watched this fat fucks movie about Capitalism, and I thought it was overall fairly accurate, albeit hyperbolic.
But one scene that struck me was when he talked to some Catholic priests about capitalism, who all considered capitalism to be evil, and I found that interesting.
How do Christian Americans actually square the teachings of the Bible with Capitalism? Doesn't seem to me to be possible at all given what Jesus said about wealth.
I'm not a Christian, let alone a theist, but it's fascinating how one of the most Christian countries in the world, is also the most capitalistic, or at least espouses Capitalism to such a great extent.
Lucas Lee
Nice concern trolling, communist
Juan Peterson
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Robert Collins
Isn't the answer obvious? 'Christians' in the US believe in capitalism.
Nathaniel Edwards
nice way to derail discussion lmfao
Jackson King
Yeah, but how do they square it? Sounds like a bad case of cognitive dissonance if they do.
Or perhaps they haven't even read the Bible themselves, and just call themselves Christians because that's what everyone else does within a 500 mile radius.
Angel Kelly
>ITT: one communist who has never read God's word or seven felt the Holy Spirit shitposts at himself
Dominic Allen
"no"
Adrian Jones
Humans excel at fooling themselves. It's how you can be against something in one context but for it in another.
Christopher Myers
The usual answer is get is:
1) The Bible says it's I moral to be lazy, and moral to be productive 2)Socialism, welfare systems, etc are lazy, while capitalism is productive 3) Therefore, capitalism is good and socialism/welfare is bad.
Joseph Cruz
*immoral to be lazy
Hudson Jones
"Socialism" means Jewish beurocratic control of the economy
Christopher Myers
Yeah, but that seems like a bad rationalization though, because Jesus also says that being rich is a bad thing several times.
Liam Adams
You are correct. I never said it was a good rationalization, only that it's the one I'm familiar with.
That said, my very conservative Christian brother has passed up very many opportunities to get rich in favor of sticking with his family and church community, so at least some American conservatives the whole camel-through-eye-of-needle bit is actually important to them. For the others, welll...
Jonathan Thomas
Reading the bible, if people even do that, doesn't have the same effect as being surrounded by capitalism and capitalist propaganda everywhere and at all times.
Ian Ortiz
Christianity is for communist cucks
Jackson Harris
> Sounds like a bad case of cognitive dissonance if they do.
All of Christianity rests on cognitive dissonance. That's how they get to the notion of following Paul's teachings over Jesus's, and how the NT fulfills the OT despite Jesus bearing only the most casual resemblances to the OT messiah, who by the way, isn't God.
What's one more bit of it?
Joshua Ortiz
Jesus did not say that the state should coerce subjects into paying taxes to help the poor. Rather, He said it's the individual's duty to be charitable. And the US hardly has capitalism.
Jack Watson
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Aiden Morgan
That was Hitler before 1939 Hitler began resenting Christianity when the war began
Angel Smith
Yo. Reality check: usury was a sin.
Marxism could be boiled down to eliminating usury in an industrial society. In a Capitalism vs Communism debate there is no wiggle room for real Christians.
- another commie
Jaxon Perry
> paying taxes to help the poor. Strictly speaking thats neither Socialism, nor Marxism, nor Communism.
Brayden Martin
It's interesting to read what Thomas Aquinas and other Christian thinkers had to say about the concept of a "just price"
For example: >If someone would be greatly helped by something belonging to someone else, and the seller not similarly harmed by losing it, the seller must not sell for a higher price: because the usefulness that goes to the buyer comes not from the seller, but from the buyer's needy condition: no one ought to sell something that doesn't belong to him. Seems like he doesn't agree with setting prices according to supply and demand curves in order to maximize profit