Who had the most powerful human mind in history?

>Probably Tesla
he was undoubtedly a genius, but lets be honest

nigga is really fucking overrated

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I just noticed how much of an odd portrait this is. Why was this taken from the profile?

nah pham the only reason you can sit here today and shitpost on your computer is because of Tesla

Edison on the other hand was a total hack

The true answer. If his autism didn't was so much time on bible codes who knows where we would be now

>implying he had anything to do with the invention of transistors
>implying AC wasn't conceptualised by Faraday and put into practice by over 20 people which Tesla was only one of

you're such a fucking meme-kin

>Da Vinci
>Alexander
>Napoleon
Absolute memes.

Real GOAT list would contain:

Euler
Liebniz
Aristotle

>no Einstein
Literally the poster boy for genius and he earned it.

Feynman would probably be up there.

Hawking as well, since the man has had little to do but exercise his mind for decades.

shakespeare

Oppenhiemer

yeah, nah
he's a kant

either Socrates or Confucius

>Da Vinci
>Alexander
>Napoleon
>Absolute memes.

stop being such a retard
da vinci was a inventor who came up with the most ingenuous shits and he's work can't fall under the "meme" category just because anyone can understand his projects

napoleon on the other hand was not a genius in the common sense and that was why he was so successful - genius peak in some things and are absolute shit in others and that's why they're only good in very specific areas; napoleon on the other hand combined versatility with a very inteligent mind

alexander seems mostly like it was just smart for its era and had a strong and charismatic presence but nothing else...

but the thing is powerful mind =/= scientist genius

>Socrates
>real

jokes on you

Confucius isn't real either

>Alexander the Great was a genius
You're falling for a huge meme here senpai. Nothing about Alexander the Great should be associated with genius. He was handed a united Greece that was forged by his father and a Persia that was waning for reasons completely unrelated to him. The man had some huge balls on the battlefield, as far as being a lead-from-the-front kind of guy, but nothing he did should earn him consideration anywhere close to the 'most powerful human mind in history'. He's the epitome of a privileged kid born in the right place at the right time.

>>no Einstein
>Literally the poster boy for genius and he earned it.

I think they're busy trying hard not to be "memeboiz"

Anyway, yeah, him. Or Newton.

Aristotle

that was pretty much what i just wrote
probably not clearly enough since i haven't had the sleep i needed but my point was da vinci was a genius, napoleon was almost a genius and alexander was just a smart guy

I think the only answer is von neumann, even if he wasn't very "powerful" socially or politically the RAM on that thing must have been fucking insane

Somewhere I read it was that man called Goethe with the highest IQ ever. But I dunno, he barely contributed to science.

Aristotle of course
youtube.com/watch?v=RF6044hZ0i8
not an argument

It's a great picture though

Hegel

Me. Once. In highschool. Go figure.

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kek
I'd say Aquinas and Newton.
Also Boutang, but it's quite a phenomenon.

>t. fourteen year old white kid

Archimedes and Gauss are better

Nah, Edison was good at what he did, being a businessman.

How about a scale of power of the mind multiplied by what the personality was able to achieve with it?

Two categories:

1.Best scientific/mathematical mind+personality

2.Best arts/humanities mind+personality

Example: 1. - Einstein because he literally just thought up all by himself so much of what we understand about physics and the literal makeup of our entire universe just by using numbers. Plus, he was un-autistic enough to join societies of other scientists and communicate his discoveries effectively for the benefit of mankind. A famous eccentric character too.

2.- Beethoven, the fact he is one of the greatest composers of all time, creating beauty and making it fucking excellent to listen to even 200 years later, he trumps Mozart and others in my opinion due to the fact he went FUCKING DEAF but still managed to create more masterpieces without even being able to hear them, that takes some serious brainpower considering that it is the hearing of music which releases endorphins in your brain making it enjoyable. His legacy proves his ability to benefit humanity effectively and was apparently a great character.

other suggestions go

>powerful human mind

I don't think minds work like Dragonball Z power levels.

I don't think we should argue 'who was better' but rather as a collective.

Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were the greatest minds of the time and I don't think one was better than the other.

Each in their own way contributed to the world.

does that mean Scipio and Hannibal are even further below him since they saw themselves as inferior to Alexander or was the misconception that Alexander was a genius present then too?

They saw themselves as inferior commanders to Alexander. OP was asking for the most powerful human mind in history, and honestly I don't think Alexander, Hannibal, or Scipio should be considered at all. Pyrrhus was a better commander or statesman than any of them.

I'm norwegian, so I'm probably biased here. Infact, scratch that, I know I'm biased, but I'd still give it to Grieg.

This

Intelligence is a meme that gone too far

Wow thats pretty raw
OSHO would agree

also vote for most wise osho

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but seriously
marcel vogel
made the microchip and the closest thing to the philosophers stone we can get

also
the artist Giotto but you niggas don;t know shit bout dat pre renaissance

>no mention of based Maxwell
Just meme about religion instead boys

jordan maxwell?

Gauss was literally a mutant mastermind.

>he literally just thought up all by himself
>People actually believe this
Einstein wouldn't be shit if it wasn't for Poincaré who basically etablished the basis of his theory and wasn't even credited for it.

me
I'm just lazy though

>people actually think the most intelligent man was someone we know of

more than likely he was a hunter-gatherer or farmer who did nothing of historical note

jared diamond pls

>more than likely he was a hunter-gatherer or farmer

More humans are alive today than in the past couple thousand years, so probably not.

But most humans who have been alive were/are hunter-gatherers or farmers who did nothing of historical note, so chances are the most intelligent man is one of them.

Actually intelligence is largely shaped by society and upbringing. Raw mind power is one thing, but dealing with the hypothetical is something that was basically impossible for laypeople until the modern era with public education. Hypothetical reasoning has to be programmed, thats why IQ scores have steadily risen since they were invented, by a staggering 20-30 points. So, in all likelihood is was someone who was educated and well-brought up (of it isn't someone who exists now, which chances are, it is) however that doesn't necessarily mean we know about them so in that way you are correct.

see

You're forgetting that intelligence is increased by nutrition and learning. IQ's been steadily rising.

How do you guys deal with the eroding feeling of mediocraty? When you look at the men named in this thread it's easy to despair that you will never match them. It's a constant struggle I have with myself. That I want to be a freethinking intelligent being but I know in my heart I'm just another common person slogging through academia.

Maybe Genghis Khan, he did about as good a job with the steppe horse archers as anybody could have, really shook the fuck out the world, I mean if powerful mind includes imposing their minds will, he went from nothing to practical god emporer

That's because Goethe did all kind of shit, he was a jack of all trades.

sacred-texts.com/tao/ycgp/ycgp01.htm
youtube.com/watch?v=2BODdXkLs8Y

Herr Doktor Karl Marx.

The way I see it, "intelligence" is strictly binary, subjective, and relative.

A subject is either intelligent or not, since "intelligence" cannot be quantified. Just what level of knowledge-skill makes one "intelligent" must be determined by an individual, but in general, intelligence refers to the aforementioned "knowledge-skill", or, how easily you can acquire and use knowledge.

You learn quickly and are good at using what you've learned throughout your life to solve problems? Most would consider you intelligent. You don't exhibit those features? Most would not consider you intelligent.

Euler

Most likely he was actually

>22 years of age
>had multiple languages and trades
>did nothing notewortht and died anonymously

There is no "innate intelligence" aka IQ, it's a bullshit metric

Your average middle schooler is smarter than a hunter gatherer, depending on how you judge. IQ tests would heavily favor today's people

The best minds are who produced the greatest results, any other measure is bullshit circlejerking for insecure NEETS

that would imply Newton or Euler are the greatest minds

Bolzano

top fucking laugh. did you just blow in from reddit pham?

you're a fucking dunce. Alexander had the finest military mind in history. Strategically brilliant, never betrayed by his nerves, decisive, cunning, perspective as all fuck. He studied directly under Aristotle and was the greatest philosopher king in history. A sublime mind to go along with demigod courage.

Also nice reading comphrension fuckwit, the guy you quoted had Alexander down for mental fortitude, rather than sheer brilliance

go the fuck back to where you came from and stay there faggot

>I'm going to disagree with you, but then not offer any evidence

Talk about Reddit. Like I said, most of his success was due to being the right person at the right time, or just plain luck. He was handed the most powerful military in the Mediterranean with a waning Persia on his borders. And as soon as the Persians began to gain an advantage after Granicus and were on the verge of inciting a revolt in Athens and Sparta, Memnon of Rhodes just happened to die. The only thing that saved him at Guagamela were the companion cavalry that his father created. Was he ballsy and quick-thinking, sure but that doesn't make him a genius.

pre agriculture man.

they had to master a wide variety of skill sets. pass and receive vast amounts of information purely by oral tradition. maintain a exacting map of their area.

agriculture, civilization, and writing, made man stupid.

I can't help but to think that his mustache makes him look like a pug

this is wiki tier knowledge pham, do you even read books?

He didn't benefit from luck. If anything, he was unlucky in many instances, such as any of the countless times he suffered serious injury in battle. Yes, he was heir to the throne of Macedon, but that didn't mean a damn thing if he wasn't capable of leading the army and running the kingdom. Which he did, with marvelous efficiency. First order of business was to crush the revolts that broke out as soon as Philip was dead. That powerful military had already been refined and drilled by Alexander prior to his father's death, and was much improved by time it crossed into Asia. All his major battles were lopsided: he was almost always outnumbered, and had to rely on superior tactics and clear battlefield vision. Sparta did revolt, and they got blown out by the Macedonian reagant without Alexander having to lift a finger. And Athens? A military threat? After Chaeronea? Not a chance.

He was a genius in every way. In battle, in running his empire (you'll notice how it all fell apart without him, proof positive of his masterful statesmanship), in moving, clothing, feeding and paying his army. He had the supreme functional intelligence, but also a great deal of theoretical understanding from his days with Aristotle. Exceptional originality and an unparalleled ability to think and problem solve on the fly. He was not a philosopher, but something even greater: a philosopher-king, one of only a handful in history.

>genius

you can have the best teachers, the best education and still not be a genius; like in my opinion, it's the case.
his legacy is pretty shallow and revolves around killing many people on the battlefield, unlike napoleon, for example, who was mentioned before who revolutionized the whole country in every single area - creating a timeline just like christ: there's a before and after napoleon.
in alexander's case, there isn't because all he ever did was to conquer by force or diplomacy and die young without planting any real seeds to be reaped by the generations that preceeded him

and it might sound stupid and even offensive but he can be compared with genghis khan without risking going too far

it must be hell to have a prodigious mind and live a pointless life in some backwater farm in the middle of nowhere

>inb4 millions of genius are dying in africa, china and india because humanity can't get his shit together

>tfw ""scientists"" - "recent studies" tier say that we're not getting better at IQ tests but we're getting literally more intelligent than our ancestors just because we can ape our way in some pointless test invented so you can brag your friends how superior you are

t. medieval peasant

>Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were the greatest minds of the time

Oh, and they all just happened to be from the same city, in the same social circle? What a coincidence!

Probably Isaac Newton, and in more modern times, Richard Feynman.

Wow maybe the surroundings can influence the growth of a person i better call the scientific community to tip them off that if you lift heavy weights you become stronger

This.

I don't care. It's surprising how little you are happy with when you actually start living in the real world.

Probably Voltaire to be honest

>Einstein wouldn't be shit if it wasn't for Poincaré who basically etablished the basis of his theory and wasn't even credited for it.

So what? Both Poincare and Einstein wouldn't be shit without Newton anyway.

All scientists are standing on the shoulders of giants before them anyway. In the end it doesn't matter who figures shit out, because it's bound to happen.

>come to this board first time to discuss history
>oh this thread about greatest minds might be interesting
>90% of suggested people are some philosophy shitters
>one guy says Tesla
>"Tesla is overrated"
is this the board where all the retards with useless diplomas come?

Maybe read the whole thread before you shitpost fagtron.

Dont be faglord contrarians. Newton

>someone finally mentions Newton

faith restored

I like generalist tho. We need more polymaths these days.

>nah pham the only reason you can sit here today and shitpost on your computer is because of Tesla
Electronics are DC. Tesla invented simple AC and even then he was retarded because he thought 2-phase>3-phase, not because he had any proof of it, mind you, it was just "wew lad I think it is like this".

While DC is shit for energetics for several reasons outside of limited instances, in the theoretical world without Tesla, the only difference in "computer" stuff would be that PSU's would be 10 times cheaper because they would only have some step-down converters, control and safety circuity as they would be able to get DC voltage straight form the wall.

Wow. All these posts in here, and NOT A SINGLE FUCKING WOMAN?

-Marie Curie
-Joan of Arc
-Catherine the Great
-Cleopatra
-Boudicca

Pythagoras,

The 3 great saw him as a great teacher. And they in return gave birth to western society as we know it today.

>-Marie Curie
>-Joan of Arc
>-Catherine the Great
>-Cleopatra
>-Boudicca

A bunch of aristocrats, nutters, losers and barbarians.

I might have agreed with your point if you had stopped at Marie Curie or included Ada Lovelace.

How would anyone rate Bouddica or Joan D'Arc among the greatest minds that ever lived? What the fuck is wrong with you?