Why did the West adopt Christianity, but not Islam? Every day it becomes clearer that Islam is more suited to us, but only now are we starting to realize it.
Even Nietzsche himself declared >Christianity destroyed for us the whole harvest of ancient civilization, and later it also destroyed for us the whole harvest of Mohammedan civilization. The wonderful culture of the Moors in Spain, which was fundamentally nearer to us and appealed more to our senses and tastes than that of Rome and Greece, was trampled down ( I do not say by what sort of feet ) Why? Because it had to thank noble and manly instincts for its origin because it said yes to life, even to the rare and refined luxuriousness of Moorish life! The crusaders later made war on something before which it would have been more fitting for them to have grovelled in the dust a civilization beside which even that of our nineteenth century seems very poor and very "senile." What they wanted, of course, was booty: the orient was rich. Let us put aside our prejudices! The crusades were a higher form of piracy, nothing more! The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility, was in its element there: the church knew only too well how the German nobility was to be won . The German noble, always the "Swiss guard" of the church, always in the service of every bad instinct of the church but well paid . Consider the fact that it is precisely the aid of German swords and German blood and valour that has enabled the church to carry through its war to the death upon everything noble on earth! At this point a host of painful questions suggest themselves. The German nobility stands outside the history of the higher civilization: the reason is obvious. Christianity, alcohol the two great means of corruption. Intrinsically there should be no more choice between Islam and Christianity than there is between an Arab and a Jew.
In Genealogy of Morality, Nietzsche says Arabs are one of the great, blond lions of peoples.
Can you give us an example of how its better? And how is Islam inherently feminist?
Logan Evans
Islam is better because it is more coherent. Christians have never been able to follow Christianity because it is incoherent, but Muslims have generally been able to follow Islam.
Islam is feminist because unlike Western "feminism", it isn't about trying to convince women that acting like whores and sluts is what makes them equal (when in fact it is really men behind promoting such behavior, because men try to get women to give into sex naturally, and women try naturally to resist).
Thomas Reed
Thanks for the picture OP. I don't think I can find a better article on the internet that speaks to how Huffington Post is pure dogshit.
Carson Cooper
>Islam is feminist because it doesn't do things that the west does
Asher Butler
Well, I actually come from a muslim family, and while I do have respect for the Islamic texts, Muhammad and his disciples flip flop a bit. Especially when you take into account the Hadith. As for your second point, I do honestly like the way a woman's purity is protected in Islam, but I wouldn't call it "feminist". I wouldn't call it oppressive either.
Justin Torres
>Christians have never been able to follow Christianity because it is incoherent No its because christians dont kill people who disobey anymore, imagine how many whores would wait till marriage if they knew they would die if they adulterated even once?
Liam Ramirez
>I wouldn't call it oppressive either
Grayson Hughes
The funniest thing I see is that femininity is "praised" here but historically it was kinda denigrated and not seen so positively in many societies but manifest in different ways.
Charles Evans
>Islam is better because it is more coherent. Spoken like someone who is completely unfamiliar with the Islamic world.
Brody Mitchell
>because it said yes to life Disgusting prose.
Blake Martinez
desu this confirms my pet theory that most muslims are autistic
Charles Smith
Nietzche was a deranged loser that constantly whined.
Had he lived in modern times, he would've joined PETA
Camden Sanders
kek at the picture .where did you found this gem
Jordan Turner
Do Muslim women get force married?
Jacob Perry
>Islam is better because it is more coherent
Nolan Phillips
based reddit of course
Nicholas Young
3 sects vs Christianity's 100? There's a better way to show intolerance then this boy.
Jeremiah Ortiz
Ye but they won't kill you for belonging to another sect
Christian Wilson
Thanks for the gold,if only the rich learned to do the same! :D kek ,tell me the subredits now
Jack Price
>implying it's only three
Every single one digs into some deeper interpretations and laws that muslims within their own sects can't even agree on. The fact that there's somehow a difference between a "moderate" muslim and an "extremist" muslim proves that is, at the least, totally incoherent.
Levi Green
>Why did the West adopt Christianity, but not Islam?
Because unlike Mohammad, Jesus didn't rape a 9-year-old girl, kill people who didn't believe in him, or force women to marry his apostles.
>Muslims are the true feminists
As opposed to feminists?
Gavin Reed
One's /r/ politics, the other one's most likely /r/s4p or other anti-Trump subreddits
Christian Johnson
Let me tell you why islam is better. Based on my observations of highly secular muslim nations.
t. some dead asshat.
Juan Adams
"Coherent" here is just a euphemism for more totalitarian and orthodox.
Just a FYI to the thread.
Thomas Rodriguez
>more totalitarian and orthodox. >better Based bootlicker
William Stewart
I never said "better".
>Reading comprehension
Kill yourself my man.
Hudson Martin
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Jordan Gray
I'm not him you fucking moron.
The reason I said coherent is a euphemism for totalitarian and orthodox, is because it's true, and it's why majority Muslim countries are shitholes all of them.
Gabriel Allen
Umm, why are you speaking for others?
You DO know that's incredibly rude right?
Alexander Thomas
I liked the viking nobility part of the pol shit post. Charlemagne autist btfo
Lincoln Jenkins
>Goethe >Nietzsche >Hitler >Merkel
Why are Germans so obsessed with Islam? Just convert already
Daniel Brooks
All of them worship destruction.
>Martin Luther's ambivalence also appears in one of his other comments, in which he said that "A smart Turk makes a better ruler than a dumb Christian".[15]
>He urges his contemporaries to also see the good aspects in the Turks, and refers to some who were favourable to the Ottoman Empire, and "who actually want the Turk to come and rule, because they think that our German people are wild and uncivilized - indeed that they are half-devil and half-man".[17]
Brody Scott
It provides a handy solution to the Protestant/catholic divide
Asher Russell
Russia would have been Islam but its based ruler at the time realized that life without alcohol wasn't worth living.
He wasn't wrong you know.
Hudson Anderson
>wait, you don't frink what? >wait, you cut off your what? The story is probably apocryphal but definitely represents the opinions of the Rus in general.
"The Primary Chronicle reports that in the year 987, after consultation with his boyars, Vladimir the Great sent envoys to study the religions of the various neighboring nations whose representatives had been urging him to embrace their respective faiths. The result is described by the chronicler Nestor. Of the Muslim Bulgarians of the Volga the envoys reported there is no gladness among them, only sorrow and a great stench. He also reported that Islam was undesirable due to its taboo against alcoholic beverages and pork.[19] Vladimir remarked on the occasion: "Drinking is the joy of all Rus'. We cannot exist without that pleasure."[20] Ukrainian and Russian sources also describe Vladimir consulting with Jewish envoys and questioning them about their religion, but ultimately rejecting it as well, saying that their loss of Jerusalem was evidence that they had been abandoned by God. His emissaries also visited Roman Catholic and Orthodox missionaries.[citation needed] Ultimately Vladimir settled on Eastern Orthodox Christianity. In the churches of the Germans his emissaries saw no beauty; but at Constantinople, where the full festival ritual of the Byzantine Church was set in motion to impress them, they found their ideal: "We no longer knew whether we were in heaven or on earth," they reported, describing a majestic Divine Liturgy in Hagia Sophia, "nor such beauty, and we know not how to tell of it." If Vladimir was impressed by this account of his envoys, he was even more attracted by the political gains of the Byzantine alliance."
Christopher Ramirez
>drinking is the joy of the rus Some things never change
Grayson Rivera
>Every day it becomes clearer that Islam is more suited to us
Speak for yourself retard.
Islam is fucking trash.
Noah James
>God is one and necessarily not triune >God is triune
>it is forbidden to make images of God or the Prophet >FUCK YEAH ALL THE IMAGES, FILL OUR CHURCHES INCH-BY-INCH WITH IMAGES
>It is a great evil to say that Jesus is God >Jesus is God
>God is totally separate from creation and cannot be approached by man >Theosis
Yep, pretty damn close.
Ayden Foster
Culturally not theologically
Jayden Perry
Any religion that is feminist in Huffpost's sense of the word is not a religion I would respect. Stop washing down your religion to suck the dicks of SJWs
Liam Brooks
> but ultimately rejecting it as well, saying that their loss of Jerusalem was evidence that they had been abandoned by God And Christendom losing Jerusalem means ... ?
Brayden Green
Bullshit. Maybe in Russia and the caucasus they have cultural similarities, but Muslims in Uzbekistan have very few cultural similarities to Muslims in Iran, and I don't see a ton of overlap between Orthodox in Ethiopia and and OCA parish in Ohio.
Nicholas Rogers
>Christianity Love your neighbor, respect them as they would respect you, expect repentance from sinners >non-feminist
>Islam Force women to act under certain rules, because only you know what's best for them, and punish them if they don't agree >feminist
Whoever writes for the Huffington Post legitimately needs to be shot
Zachary King
Jerusalem is far more holy to Jews than to Christians.
It's like losing the vatican
Carson Adams
Not to mention that the first recorded instance of speaking up against slut shaming is by Jesus, while Mohammed just says stone away
Liam Powell
Only a matter of time.
Logan Gray
I don't know about that m8, Latinos take it so seriously there'd be a tenth crusade no doubt
Adam Powell
Not to mention
>The parts of the Bible that contradict that, and encourage fire and brimstone, are also shared with Judaism and Islam. The kindhearted, soft side of it is exclusive to Christianity.
Shame that American ministers are complete faggots for the most part and focus on the parts of it that support their own political beliefs, rather than encouraging the constructive rhetoric that makes them Christian in the first place.
The Catholic Church was a mistake.
Thomas Scott
Isn't Jerusalem more holy than the Vatican in Christianity? What significance does the Vatican even have
Nicholas Sanders
Not much. Jerusalem housed the Jewish Temple, which Christ said would be destroyed, because
A: He replaces it and B: The Jews rejected him
Jews to this day pray toward Jerusalem. It's like Mecca for Jews.
Jayden Thomas
Vatican = Seat of God's chosen envoy on Earth, a direct line from Peter, for Catholics
It holds zero relevance to Protestants besides a secular and cross-religion interest, and so Jerusalem would technically be "more holy" to them, if not more interesting.
Gabriel Reed
To Catholics, the head of their church and the voice of god. To the rest, one of the five patriarchies and the most influential.
And what significance does Jerusalem by itself have? Jesus was born in Bethlehem and crucified on Golgotha, which is outside Jerusalem. The only important things there are the Final Supper, his trial and the Stations of the Cross
Liam Foster
Why'd they crusade so hard for it then?
Jaxon Gray
>cherry picking >ignoring 90% of the Quran and it's peaceful and forgiving nature >still walking on this earth
Michael Jones
>Vatican is the seat of God's chosen envoy This statement is blasphemous and supports false prophets after Christ
John Butler
Because they were all Catholics back then, and Pope Urban felt like Islam was encroaching on his land?
Envoy doesn't mean avatar, dipshit.
Popes are regarded as direct successors to Peter, who was made the leader of the Christian Church.
Learn to read.
Eli Roberts
Islam can be only be a religion of peace if everyone is a muslim. The main point of Islam is to spread to make everyone subservient to their god. This comes in direct conflict with the majority of people for obvious reasons. But even if the muslims in a non-muslim dominant area don't carry out their duties of conversion, they still clash with the local customs and other religions of the area. Muslims can never live in an area in peace unless everyone else is muslim.
Joseph White
>Islam can be only be a religion of peace if everyone is a muslim. Not even then desu
Nolan Cook
People think Christianity inis the same for regions or x religion is the same for all regions.
>Islam can be only be a religion of peace if everyone is a muslim you must be kidding right?
Luis Lewis
Nope. You're just too deluded to actually read the quran and hear what the imams say
Gabriel Parker
They're has been violence between muslims since the 1st century after the prophets death.
Nolan Taylor
I'm agreeing with him boy.
Colton Jones
Dude it sucks living in most Muslim countries as a non Muslim. Whatever the Imams and Quran states, the common people treat kaffirs like garbage.
James Nelson
I know they treat kaffirs like shit but his claim that it is a religion of peace if everyone is muslim is bullshit they have been killing each other for centuries
There's at least as many islamic sects as there are christian sects if you're willing to distinguish between 1000 breeds of protestantism which boil down to the same shit.
Jaxson Stewart
Constantine used christianity to unite the west, and muslims were just considered bloodthirsty barbarians
Eli Sanchez
I happened to read something about how "the continued petitioning of Allah daily and especially on Fridays, a cursing that is pronounced from the pulpits of Mosques" is the following:
>O Allah may you make the apostates against each other and the polytheists against their likes and bring out the Unitarians from them safely, with their spoils, O Lord of Worlds, O Allah. May their women be widowed, may their children be orphaned, may their blood freeze in their veins, may their food be stuck in their inner testines. O Allah, destroy them make their miseries strong among them, O Allah grant us victory over them, O Allah send your punishment on them, bring division in the midst of their union, scattering them, disseminating their numbers. O Allah, grant us victory over them. O Allah may their snares be slaughtered and be scuttled within themselves. O Allah show us your power. O Mighty One and the Vanquisher, O Allah show us in them a dark day as in the day of A’ad and Thamud. O Allah, quake the earth under their feet, O Allah empower venomous creatures over them and send hail storms over them as you did over A’ad and Thamud and deliver them as captives in the hands of your believing slaves and humiliate the polytheists and, O Allah, lift up the banner of Islam …
However, no source is given and I'm unable to find one. Can anybody help?
Elijah Cox
I work in a school full of muslim parents. Trust me, it's absolutly NOT feminist. Most mother can't even come to talk about their kids because it would mean meeting male teachers, which is impossible for them.
They are housewives but behave like slaves, they are incredibly repressed on most subjects and can only talk about themselves in secrecy and amongst women only.
If that's being "feminists", I sure like western patriarchy better.
Ryan Gutierrez
Has Nietsczhe ever been wrong about anything ever?
Grayson Hill
What this essentially says is "peace can only come from vanquishing your enemies", which is true in all cases.
Ian Rivera
kill yourself ahmed
Carter Bennett
>Jews to this day pray toward Jerusalem. It's like Mecca for Jews.
Muslims also prayed towards Jerusalem. It was the original Mecca.
John Sullivan
Nietzsche was a cuck filled with AIDS
As for the muslims they are a bunch of Low IQ inbreds
If the West one day change his religion, it will be buddhism or nothing, but certainly not a religion who worship a pedo.
Colton Gomez
You're thinking like a woman, always bending over to the perceived stronger side, willing to bail out and betray your former allegiances if someone else comes along.
But you're making a gross miscalculation. The European man is slowly awaking, and when he does, we'll see who's master.
Treason will not be taken lightly.
Christian Gutierrez
>Implying Europe didn't inbreed for centuries
Easton Myers
That was the nobles. In Muslim countries, especially the Middle East, inbreeding is national sport. They've been marrying their cousins since they converted to Islam.
Noah Parker
>If the West one day change his religion, it will be [...] nothing Isn't "nothing" the official religion of Europe anyway?
Robert Martin
Inbreeding is not marrying someone of your own race you dumb retard. It's marrying someone from your family. That is extremely rare and shunned upon in Europe and only happened occasionally among royals and members of the nobility.
On the other hand Arab and Islamic cultures practice and encourage marriage within one's own family.
Logan Stewart
(pic related)
>Isn't "nothing" the official religion of Europe anyway?
It's true there is a lot of atheist in Europe, but Europe is not China tier.
>The German nobility, which is fundamentally a Viking nobility
What the fuck am I reading
William Williams
18th, 19th and early 20th century medieval history reads like a Robert E. Howard comic book. Adam Smith and Karl Marx had a Monthy Python tier understanding of the middle ages.
I kid you not when I tell you that even as recent as the 50s academic literature ascribed warlike fervor innate to those of Germanic blood. Of course they were writing only a few years after WWII but still.
Jaxon White
I wasn't clear enough, what I meant by nothing was more akin to nihilism. I know very few people who have any meaningful interest in religious or spiritual matters, most just tip their fedoras to everything, make jokes about gingers, proudly proclaim that they'll be going to Hell, and those among them that aren't atheists generally just take the laziest possible agnostic or deist position.
Zachary Adams
>Adam Smith and Karl Marx had a Monthy Python tier understanding of the middle ages.
Kek. Yeah history comes from a long way but holy shit ignorant people have the tendancy to talk about shit they have no idea about just to fit in their agenda
And don't getme started on the feminism part, jesus christ. Just let those retard experience true feminism in those backwards muslim countries and we'll see if they spout the same shit after that
Jacob Flores
>I wasn't clear enough, what I meant by nothing was more akin to nihilism. Europe is more materialistic than nihilistic, to be successful here mean to be rich, educated, beautiful, and have a good job, but i don't think there is a lot of europeans who think there is no meaning to life.
Landon Martin
the most cucked post itt
Easton Turner
>I kid you not when I tell you that even as recent as the 50s academic literature ascribed warlike fervor innate to those of Germanic blood
Mostly the prussians but thankfully the communists repressed them for enough time that they can hide it now.
Never turn your back on a german though.
Christopher Butler
>us
Ayden Wilson
>drinking is the joy of the rus and squatting
Zachary Brown
Nietzsche lived in the time when Arabia was heavily romanticized though. He lived only a few decades after Lawrence of Arabia.
It's also not clear from the quote whether Nietzsche meant Ottoman Islam or Wahabist Islam. The former is obviously a little more in line with his philosophy
Kevin Gomez
*a few decades before
Matthew Flores
the only thing op prives is German Philosophers were trash, Heidegger should have been hanged in the Nuremberg trials.
Christian Nguyen
Here's the killer of Islamic coherence: God wrote the script for the future, and yet he punishes 'infidels' and asks them to convert. If he decided their fates, how can they change them? Bam.
