A thread to share the lesser known crimes and historical atrocities/odd events that lack publicity on a national/international scale like the Rape of Nanjing or maybe even the Donner Party.
I'll start.
>Peter Keller was a pants-on-the-head-prepper who made videos of his plans for 'the end' before murdering his wife and daughter and fleeing to his makeshift bunker in Kings County Washington >He is still listed as only a suspect in the murder in most publications since he committed suicide after SWAT officers had reached his bunker.
That time the British sailed into the harbor of Denmark, a neutral nation, and slaughtered several hundred defenseless civilians (including a whole lot of women and children) through artillery bombardment.
I'm going to add the Abkhazia-Georgia civil war, because pretty much the same shit happened: brutal massacres and mutilations.
Asher Hughes
>Social cleansing in Bogota
Luis Stewart
>pregnant women cut open >babies dashed against walls I will never understand how people are driven to do such things even during the most brutal of conflicts.
Exactly how fucked up do you need to be to literally cut babies out of their pregnant mothers' wombs and throw children against stones until they die? How many times do you need to be raped and beaten as a child for that to seem like rational behaviour?
Rape and slavery I can honestly understand, it's fucked up but I get it, but I do not understand shit like infant mutilation at all.
James Smith
Babies they don't even comprehend what's happening and haven't had any time to form any real attachments on earth so there's not losing anything when they die.
It's not as bad as killing older children and adults tbqh.
Jason Cruz
>To avoid painful punishments, she said she tried to be a good slave[15] and that due to this she was allowed out to jog, work in the yard, and care for the Hooker children alone in the mobile home. Even with an open door, neighbors, and a telephone, Stan made no attempt to escape; she said that her fear of "The Company" kept her from seeking help.[16]
Holy shit
Noah Foster
>British """people"""
Julian Cox
It's the thin line between man and animal. I mean, just look at the whole 'House No 5' bit during Nanjing. Not only that, but Japan followed and reported on a killing race between two soldiers like a sporting event.
Isaiah Green
that's not really "historical," just old
You guys should really watch this movie. It's intense and horrifying.
Levi Nguyen
>Mehmed II got poisoned by his jewish doctor, Maestro Lacopo
Carter Clark
>Lesser known historical atrocities and events
Once I've heard that six million Jews were gassed and shot a long time ago, not sure if it's true tho
>Since the war he has converted to Christianity and become a preacher. Reverend Butt Naked?
Lucas Morris
>peter keller >killed family in 2012 >Veeky Forums
Honey, no.
Carter Watson
Pretty much all of the thirty years' war was horrible and breathtakingly cruel to the peasants of central Europe, but nobody seems to even know it happened. At least in the US, that is.
Evan Rogers
This. The 1965-66 butchery in Indonesia is one of the lesser known atrocities, along with the East Timor and Papua genocides, the Guatemalan and Salvadoran Civil Wars, modern Uzbekistan and Equatorial Guinea, the Duvalier regime in Haiti, the Great African War, and Mobutu Sese Seko's reign.
Brandon Sanchez
It killed something like 2/3 of Central Europe IIRC.
>child rape >serial murder >torture >"allegedly" sold kids/teens to high ranking officals, satanists and child pornography rings >hade a dungeon complete with torture chamber in his basment >many kids went missing in the general area >hundreds if not thousands of kids/teens/women probably passed through his hands >was unemployed and lived of welfare, yet hade six seperate residences all quite luxurious
i put allegedly in quotations marks because thats what happend its just been fairly covered up
here take a trip down the rabbit hole if you got the stomach for it
People turn off their brains when I tell about a real, pedophile conspiracy. There's epstein in america, Saville in britain, dutroux in europe. They are all well connected in politics and media.
People just laugh and say I'm crazy it makes my blood boil
Ian Nelson
simply because ignorance is bliss
Robert Smith
whenever this or something similar is brougth up the thread instantaneously dies
Joseph Cox
fuck, I watched this as a doco during a weekend a crime channel and drug bender.. left me.. jaded
That one time Pedro Cabral captured some Arab ships, slaughtered the sailors, and shelled the living crap out of Calicut all because he was but mad that some of his men got killed.
The enemy groups are perceived as non humans. People tend to bend to the rules of their own group, which overwrits one's own morals. So while you would not kill a baby, the sheer pressure, wanting to please the group and other factors make you do things which you wouldnt even consider.
Dont cut yourself on that edge user.
Jack Perry
Shit man, this is basically True Detective but in real life.
Justin Evans
>atrocity They deserved it.
Sebastian Butler
Tbqh what perplexes me is that it just seems like a lot of trouble
You would genuinely need to get some pretty intense pleasure out of it or why else even bother doing all this shit that's basically just extra work instead of leaving them behind to most likely just die of starvation and cold and shit anyway
As a bonus point to this, as often as not, there would be government troops nearby that would simply sit back and let it happen.
Parker Thomas
>Children can be really fucked up to user. Yeah, but these kids were just scousers.
Samuel Wood
The nerve of some people to put blame on the people that saw the two fucking psychos aged fucking ten walking with a two year old crying and not doing anything. Who the fuck assumes those kids abducted this other kid to murder him and put his body on a railway. Literally the last thing I'd think about the whole scene.
Brody Gonzalez
For what, not letting the pompous ass douche bags treat them the same as some backwater African tribe?
Asher Roberts
On 13 November 1002, King Aethelred the Unready "ordered slain all the Danish men who were in England"
>Danes who dwelt in the afore-mentioned town, striving to escape death, entered this sanctuary of Christ... and resolved to make refuge and defence for themselves therein against the people of the town >But when all the people in pursuit strove, forced by necessity, to drive them out, and could not, they set fire to the planks and burnt, as it seems, this church.
It is 'King County" not 'Kings'. Also, I thought he was killed when the State Troopers blew the roof in on his 'bunker'. Washington signing in.
Ethan Cox
Average population decline in German states was between 30 and 50%, but some places like Wuttemberg (area around Stuttgart) were more like 75%. Sweden alone destroyed "2,000 castles, 18,000 villages, and 1,500 towns, one third of all German towns." Typhus and other plagues swept the regions, bubonic plague broke out in northern Italy and city populations were reduced by about half.
Grayson Johnson
Isoviha (translated to greater wrath)
>Sweden suffers a disastrous defeat at Poltava >Official Swedish armed forces essentially do a "nope.jpg" and retreat to Sweden >Finland is left completely undefended after the small remnants of the Swedish army are destroyed at the Battle of Iskyrö (Isokyrö is then burned to the ground) >Russian officers often took young girls and women from the streets of captured cities and sent them to Russia as sex slaves >Russians hit Ostrobothnia especially hard, killing ~25% of the population and taking 20 000 captives as slaves to Russia. Mainly as sex slaves and forced labor. Torture of civilians was also regular. >Cossacks burned and pillaged Tornio 13 times, and reportedly "beat, burned and fried" civilians to get them reveal where they had hid their treasures.
Russia in essence established a temporary military government in Finland and raped and looted the area for a couple of years as they pleased. Numbers are small but relatively very high. Finland's population at the time of Isoviha was around 400 000. During these times the plague also hit.
They came in the night When the men were asleep This band o' Argyles Through snow soft and deep Like murdering foxes Among helpless sheep They slaughtered the house of MacDonald
O cruel is the snow That sweeps Glencoe And covers the grave o' Donald And cruel was the foe That raped Glencoe And murdered the house of MacDonald
Some died in their beds At the hand of the foe Some fled in the night And were lost in the snow Some lived to accuse him That struck the first blow But gone was the house of MacDonald
Gabriel Watson
Considered China's greatest emperor, the Taizong Emperor, got into power via a scheme that is literally worse than Game of Thrones antics. >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xuanwu_Gate_Incident He took out the heir to the throne and the second in line, in one go. His father, Gaozu Emperor of T'ang, was fuck scared of him he abdicated and became one of the few Emperors who became "Grand Imperial Sire" (Taishang Huang), the title reserved for retired emperors who stepped down.
Ryan Peterson
How can one man be so based?
Imagine the world today with all those germans and their exponentially growing offpsring
Makes me shudder
Carson Powell
As is known, the Romans, "who have become the enemy of the race which founded it", literally destroyed this nation during its gestation. The holocust of the Celts in Gallia was perpetrated by Julius Caesar and his legions, in the first century B.C., between 59 and 51. They systematically massacred all the political leaders of that nation, their soldiers and priests, killing altogether three millions and setting fire to eight hundred towns and villages. After that, the people were economically ruined, terrorized, assimilated and Romanized. The history of Europe does not know of any other similar killings. Yet, Caesar had been whitewashed by historians of all his crimes and stands before us as a "Great European". Only the Kelti in Hungary were capable to outlive the century of hell in Europe.
Blake Rodriguez
>please refrain from discussing topics younger than 25 years (paraphrase) do you even read?
Wyatt Baker
It werent really the swedes doing all that shit, you overestimate them. It was mostly germans killing germans.
>Reminder that the Mexican government killed a shit ton of leftist students in 1968 because they saw all the shit going down in the world and didn't want the olympics to be ruined
Benjamin Reed
State Troopers heard a pop before entering, and found that he had shot himself upon entering the bunker.
Jayden Richardson
Dennis Nilsen aka "The Muswell Hill Murderer"
>.... >Murder 7: The seventh victim was what Nilsen described as a starving "hippy-type" he had found sleeping in a doorway in Charing Cross. >Murder 8: Nilsen could recall nothing at all about his eighth victim. >Murder 9 and Murder 10: Both were young Scottish men, picked up in pubs in Sotho. >Murder 11: The eleventh victim was a skinhead Nilsen picked up at Piccadilly Circus who had a tattoo around his neck saying "cut here". He had boasted to Nilsen how tough he was and how he liked to fight; however, once he was drunk, he proved no match for Nilsen, who hung his naked torso in his bedroom for 24 hours before he was buried under the floorboards.
Adam Butler
That one time California nearly started an interplanetary war
Nobody ever talks about this shit and it pisses me off. They actually shush it up but bodies fucking everywhere. French gov denied this for 37 years. Disgusting
Caleb Perry
i remember reading that in the last thread. goddamn
Michael Hernandez
I'm Dutch and the Thirty Years' War is only mentioned in passing in secondary school history class. Partially because it overlaps with the Dutch Eighty Years' War in which we gained our independence, but even the massive loss of life wasn't really mentioned.
Brandon Gomez
Most of the victims were Algerian, and France did their best to pretend the Algerian War didn't happen.
This is because the French are little better than the Germans.
Gavin Reyes
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Suiyang Context: Besieged T'ang loyalists hold a city that blocks the route of rebel armies to the Capital & Emperor. When their rations were gone, they started cannibalizing the citizens of the city they are defending & corpses.
Fought to the last man and succeeded in their objectives in delaying the rebel advance. Rebels reported survivors were crazed and demanded execution upon capture.
Nicholas Williams
Mercenaries (Landsknecht in this particular case, I believe) were used a lot during that time. Huge conscripted national armies are somewhat new
Noah Mitchell
He is right though, higher cognitive capacity equals greater potential for suffering. This is why people can smash mosquitos without a second thought. The reason we value the young so highly is purely a species level survival instinct.
Jacob Parker
He looks like a big guy
Gabriel Moore
>The succession plan as mandated by heaven lists me, the second in line, and only one of you. First one to talk gets to stay in my line of succession.
Leo Smith
Loving that Harry Potter font on that page
Adam Morris
Jesus fuck, I always assumed that the rumours about Dutroux' involvement in some greater conspiracy were bullshit. It reeks. The fact that they released his wife a few years ago to live in a monastery pisses me off.
Luis Rogers
Russian atrocities like these are not at all notable in any way, under Russian rule these kinds of things are the rule(hehe) rather than the exception.
Everyone forgot about that shit after WWII. But I recall that Speer actually mentioned it in his surrender message.
Jordan Perez
Not sure if anyone mentioned it, but the 1971 Bangladesh Genocide was pretty fucked up and seems to be forgotten these days.
Alexander Cox
>Reminder no need dos de octubre no se olvida
Kevin Moore
It was satisfying to see such an evil person experience guilt and remorse after all those years of celebrating murder. I don't know how the director came up with his plan but it worked.
The paramilitaries were pretty terrifying, I can see how having such a massive fan club for your most famous deeds might deter introspection.
Caleb Anderson
I would say that the residential school system in Canada was really bad but not sure if that is commonly taught in schools or not.
Ian Evans
The disappearance of Michael Rockefeller. It's speculated he either drowned, or was killed by a tribe of cannibals when he swam to shore.
Jackson Lewis
> There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.
-- Terry Pratchett in Small Gods (with regards to the inquisitioners of the church of Om in the book)
do you think the writers came up with this themselves?
Carter Nguyen
she often goes out with a priest nowadays
Elijah Anderson
lesser known? Well not in belgium... but it was just one of the scandals in belgium in the '80s and '90s... look up the brabant killers, that shit stinks heavier than dutroux...
Colton Cruz
holy fuck shit
Jose Brooks
I don't know why every time someone disappears in a hostile foreign wilderness it becomes some great mystery (not that you said so, but I always see Rockefeller, Earhart, etc. in lists of 'history's greatest mysteries'). It's pretty obvious they just fucking died because the ocean/jungle/desert/etc. is rough.
Also how is that 'one of history's atrocities'? It's one guy dead. There's more suffering than that on any given hour of any day.
Mason Rogers
>Implying the Natives and "Metis" whites actually suffered as much during residential schools The whole thing is a joke, considering that native culture nowadays is a fucking travesty of native men murdering their girlfriends, corrupt Chiefs taking government sorry dollars and using it for themselves, and creating huge amounts of FAS babies for the state to take care of (who are a burden inherently due to their lack of restraint and stupidity). Most of the people demanding money anyways are whites with 1/16 Cherokee or some shit Fuck the natives t. Cree aboriginal
Are you not from the US? The Donner Party is pretty well known.
Lincoln Moore
Thats fucked m8
Hunter Rivera
The massacre at Béziers en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_at_Béziers?oldformat=true A city in southern France that was a stronghold of Catharism, the French crown sent an army to eradicate the heresy and strengthen his grasp on southern France (Albigensian Crusade) >"While discussions were still going on with the barons about the release of those in the city who were deemed to be Catholics, the servants and other persons of low rank and unarmed attacked the city without waiting for orders from their leaders. To our amazement, crying "to arms, to arms!", within the space of two or three hours they crossed the ditches and the walls and Béziers was taken. Our men spared no one, irrespective of rank, sex or age, and put to the sword almost 20,000 people. After this great slaughter the whole city was despoiled and burnt" >"When they discovered, from the admissions of some of them, that there were Catholics mingled with the heretics they said to the abbot “Sir, what shall we do, for we cannot distinguish between the faithful and the heretics.” The abbot, like the others, was afraid that many, in fear of death, would pretend to be Catholics, and after their departure, would return to their heresy, and is said to have replied “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius - Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His” (2 Tim. ii. 19)" Current pic of Béziers
John Rivera
>the original "let God sort 'em out"
Fuck
Colton Stewart
The problem with those threads is that you can't tell what's an attempt by the powers that be to suppress awareness of their crimes and what's normal Veeky Forums bullshit. I'm tempted to post "WHAT'S HIS NAME Veeky Forums", but that meme might have been fabricated as a sliding tactic.
>"By 1917 all but one of the male inhabitants had died. Many had perished from scurvy, while others (including Captain Arnaud) died during an attempt to sail after a passing ship to fetch help. Lighthouse keeper Victoriano Álvarez was the last man on the island, together with 15 women and children.[18] Álvarez proclaimed himself "king" and began an orgy of rape and murder, before being killed by Tirza Rendon, who was the recipient of his unwanted attention."
Jace Roberts
Not an atrocity depending on what you think of the guy, but Park Chung-Hee, South Korea's dictator for almost 20 years who made the country the economic powerhouse it is today BUT got rid of anyone he didn't like in the process died when in the middle of a dinner party the head of Korea's intelligence agency just got up and shot him in the head, killed the head of the army who was at the table as well, and actually tried to cover it up until they realized it was him.
