Why doesn't Confederacy just doesn't made army from slaves and used them to overpower enemies with a human wave tactics?
Why doesn't Confederacy just doesn't made army from slaves and used them to overpower enemies with a human wave tactics?
Dylan Ward
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Jason Harris
Whut?
Liam Bennett
>giving guns to slaves
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Luke Martin
By the end of the war they actually were using black soldiers, though I assume they were freed slaves.
Actual slaves would not have had alot of motivation to fight
Luis Foster
They did later on in the war when they got desperate but it was too little too late.
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The one politician's quote sums it up "If slaves will make good soldiers, our entire idea of slavery is wrong"
Noah Sullivan
>we whip them, buy and sell them, and force them into labor
>let's give 'em guns and hope they point them in the right direction
Jordan Martin
This is the same mistake that nazi germany did in WW2; They allowed the eastern legions of Vlassov and his russian liberation army to carry weapons and fight alongside germany far too late into the war. In 1942 these liberated ruthenians were eager to fight against the bolshevist opressors and could have made a real difference in the field, but there were too many skeptics in the german high command. It's a fucking shame, really.
What was the gettysburg of the civil war was Stalingrad in ww2, and 1865 aswell as 1945 were both dates in history when western civilization took two mortal blows it still hasn't recovered from as of yet.
Luke Howard
See en.wikipedia.org
Much of the white racial paranoia that gripped the South during the Antebellum period was the political fallout of both the Haitian Revolution and Nat Turner's slave rebellion. They're also both part of the reason slavery lasted decades longer in the US than in Europe (abolitionists were gaining political ground in the South during the early phases of the Haitian Revolution and just prior to Nat Turner's rebellion, only to have their arguments for emancipation shot down by the horrific violence of both revolts).
There were black soldiers in the Confederate Army throughout the entire war, the free black population in particular, were eager to prove themselves to be just as committed to the preservation of "Southern Rights" as whites (in the hopes of regaining some of the political power and rights they had lost in the decades leading up to the war). Slaves who followed their masters into the army as servants found themselves pressed into frontline duty (albeit they weren't technically classified as enlisted men). As the war wore on, many slaves opted to throw their fortunes in with the Union instead rather than fight for a losing cause they didn't have much of a positive stake in to begin with.
Fun Fact: One of the last surviving Confederate veterans to receive a pension for his service was a former slave, Alfred "Teen" Blackburn.
Daniel Watson
Source for claims of black soldiers actually serving in combat with Confederates?
Jack Hill
In any oppressed population, you can always find a not insignificant number of people who have a Stokholm Syndrome-esque love of their oppressors.
Logan Smith
He literally gave you a name look up Alfred teen Blackburn you lazy fucking racist
Lucas Sanders
>During the American Civil War, Blackburn served as the "body servant" of his father, Col. John Augustus Blackburn of Company F, 21st North Carolina Regiment. Blackburn's brother, Wiley Blackburn, is listed in Co. B, 38th North Carolina Regiment roster also as a "body servant".[5]
>Blackburn was a cook, servant and helper for the regiment for almost two years during battles, including the First Battle of Bull Run. In a 1938 interview, Blackburn said he did not carry a gun during his service because "a knife was handier."
Being a "body servant" for an officer (who is also your father) and not even possessing a gun is not the same as serving as a combat soldier and you know it. Just because the guy received a pension for his service doesn't change that fact.
Grayson Harris
There were definitely "secesh niggers," but arming and mobilizing slaves in large numbers is just begging for mutiny and uprising.
Logan Flores
It's like you cunts don't even read books or source material on a subject before commenting. When will the shit posting end.
Andrew Cox
Imagine the desertion rates of slave soldiers. That's why.
Samuel King
Something I left out: a few black slaves who are outnumbered by white Confederate troops can be kept under control. However, large groups of slave soldiers probably won't be as motivated to cooperate with their owners.
Aaron Cooper
Former slave who was a scout in Quantrill's Raiders
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Only black commissioned officer in the Confederate Army (albeit he switched sides after the fall of New Orleans for the aforementioned reasons).
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Ex-enlisted man who raised a made headlines when he showed up to the 1913 Gettysburg Reunion. He raised an even bigger stink when in death when he was buried with military honors with a Stars and Bars draped on his coffin (in a black cemetery mind you) .
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“Wednesday, September 10: At 4 o’clock this morning the Rebel army began to move from our town, (Fredrick, Md), Jackson’s forces taking the advance. The movement continued until 8 o’clock pm, occupying 16 hours. The most liberal calculation could not give them more than 64,000 men. Over 3,000 Negroes must be included in this number. These were clad in all kinds of uniforms, not only in cast-off or captured United States uniforms, but in coats with Southern buttons, State buttons, etc. These were shabby, but not shabbier or seedier than those worn by white men in the rebel ranks. Most of the Negroes had arms, rifles, muskets, sabers, bowie-knives, dirks, etc. They were supplied with knapsacks, haversacks, canteens, etc and they were an integral portion of the Southern Confederate army. They were seen riding on horses and mules, driving wagons, riding on caissons, in ambulances, with the staff of generals and promiscuously mixing it up with all the Rebel horde.”
-Union Sanitation Commission Inspector Dr. Louis Steiner observing black soldiers in the Army of Northern Virginia during the 1862 Maryland Campaign
Now I'll grant you they certainly didn't serve in numbers comparable to the USCT, but the desperation of the Confederacy's fight for survival led it to question/outright abandon many aspects of the Antebellum way of life.
Gabriel Reed
Part Two
Good book on how the Civil War affected the free and slave populations in Virginia (home to both the largest slave and largest free black population in the country).
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Also, the Confederate memorial in Arlington features a black soldier in the background and a white soldier kissing a slave woman and her baby (supposedly, it represents the artist, Moses Ezekiel, and his daughter Alice, who was born to a Mullato woman, but he was unable to marry because of segregation laws).
Cooper Rivera
Thanks for the info, that Steiner quote is pretty interesting if true.
Gabriel Price
Slaves were expensive. That's also why them being beaten till near death is a myth or big exaggeration. Why waste money, food, upkeep, etc on something that cost a pretty penny. Even for plantation owners there was a lot of investment in a nigger.
Chase Roberts
Pls tell me your pretending to be retarded.
Bentley Moore
This^