You will never have a qt chinese revolutionary gf whose idealism and vision for a better world is beautiful...

>tfw

This is such a top feel for me
>tfw no thick revolutionary chinese gf

Zizek talks about how when Marx stated that philosophers try to interpret the world and that the point is to change it, in response we tried too hard and attempted to change it too much too fast in the 20th century...the point now, perhaps, should be to keep interpreting it.

why do girls from communist countries like cuba, russia, china and eastern europe have such nice perky bodies, smooth skin and qt faces? yet have the shittiest personalities?

>you will never have a North Korean spy mistress gf who hates the totalitarian regime she works for like in The Interview

Are these from the same artist?
And is there more?

Well. Welcome to Veeky Forums, enjoy your stay. You're in for a wild ride in the coming weeks, but soon we'll learn the depths that this board can sink together.

>pointing his AK directly at that lady

I guess this chink never took his weapon safety course. I wonder what his trigger discipline is like.

>beautiful, innocent, and pure
>culture destroying iconoclasts who gleefully persecuted artists and intellectuals

This wasn't a hidden horror of Maoism either. It's in the fucking book.

>the point now, perhaps, should be to keep interpreting it.
I feel like that's just an excuse to sit around and mouth off about whatever you like while the world rolls on behind you. It's capitulation to the status quo

>norks needing weapon safety

Fuck up outta here, pussy ass capitalist pigdog.

Another way of looking at it would be to interpret it better so as to avoid shit like Stalinism.

>getting honeydicked by some North Korean spy

hush user
dont ruin it
its too tender ;_;

Lots.

Right-click - Search Google..

>you will never take a female VC prisoner, and then hand them over to ARVN forces knowing that they'll be raped and tortured

>you will never fight beside her and protect her

>you will never be a rustic but literate country girl who brings messages of love back and forth between a nationalist girl and a communist boy
>you will never question your sexuality through your passionate writings and lovemaking by proxy

>you will never be a Chinese American girl in California who tries to impress her visiting (and rather grumpy)
>you will never try to do ballet for her only to be screamed at and scolded
>you will never learn from baba that grandma had her feet bound as a young girl, and the trauma still lingers

>you will never be a cute Manchu girl who gets horribly abused by her Chinese husband
>you will never find solace in the arms of Japanese soldier
>you will never flee to America together postwar

>It made me realize how cynical and uninspired the modern world is. Sure, people often have vague notions of humanity and social good, but the idea of an animating ideology that could inspire people to sell away their soul or life is completely unthinkable to us.
This is what the Great War did to the West. You now realize just the magnitude of the tragedy that it was.

>I feel like that's just an excuse to sit around and mouth off about whatever you like while the world rolls on behind you. It's capitulation to the status quo
>I feel like...
You realize this statement is your interpretation, the very thing you are trying to criticize, right?

Obviously someone COULD use it as an excuse to merely comment on and not participate in the world around them, but so what? They aren't going to contribute to a powerful social movement if that comes along either. Better that the folks who actually DO want to do something meaningful are careful about how they interpret the world than that we make sure lazy people have one less excuse to be lazy, IMO.

>false understanding of leftism
>implying Uncle Fidel isn't a big fan of Mao and his antirevisionist application of Marxism to the condition of China

To the reeducation camp

>dumb autistic chinaboo samefagging his own thread
>pedastalizes scroungy greasy pathological lying chinese women

Mao literally did nothing wrong though.

...

>Stop looking at me like that, idiot! We're on duty!
>Come on, the lieutenant said we have to protect this road for the supply line.
>It's important user, focus! The people's revolution needs us!
>What are you, a dirty nationalist?
>Don't worry, we'll have some time to relax once our shift is done (◠‿◠)

I don't hate Asians... but I can't look at one without knowing that they would walk pass a dieing toddler without breaking stride .i

Trips checked.

I'm OK with that. From what I've read of Maoism, it wasn't much fun.

For a few people. For most it was great and a vast improvement.

>a few people

I wouldn't call tens of millions starved and killed "a few"

Technically that's only a fraction of the population, and in Chinese history isn't that bad. Also tens of millions is cold-war mythology. Also under Mao the Chinese population increased, saw increased life expectancy, calorie intake, and actually got the first access to modern medicine and education for most people. So yeah they did okay, three years of famine notwithstanding.

BTW tell me what's happening in that picture. Who they are, where that is, when it was, all the details.

>fraction of the population

That still doesn't make tens of millions of people "a few."

>cold-war mythology

Land reform from 1947-52 resulted in the deaths of 800,000 (Mao's estimate) to 2 million landlords and land-owning peasants. The Suppression of Counterrevolutionaries campaign resulted in the executions of at least 712,000 (official figure) but most 3rd party estimates are in the millions. The anti-rightist campaign killed around 550,000. The Chinese government claims that at least 15 million were killed in the Great Leap Forward, most historians claim it caused between 20 and 30 million deaths. The cultural revolution killed 500,000 - 2 million.

>Chinese population increased

It was increasing before he came into power too, and the rate of growth dramatically slowed during the GLF. The fact that he didn't manage to kill off an entire generation through incompetence doesn't mean his rule was good for the country.

>increased life expectancy, calorie intake, and actually got the first access to modern medicine and education for most people.

I would hope that Mao's China had a greater life expectancy and calorie intake than WWII and civil war China, if not it would have been an even more shameful indictment of command economies and collectivization. Modern medicine merely required him to not prevent the adoption of it. While his education reforms drastically increased literacy they also prevented the population from reading materials that contradicted the ideals of Mao and the Communist Party. They also intentionally burned entire libraries and huge troves of art and artifacts. While Mao's predecessors committed similar acts his were unprecedented in scale.

I don't know the exact provenance of the picture, I googled "cultural revolution executions," and it came up with a description claiming that they are landlords being killed during the land reform program. Not that it would really matter to you if I did know the details.

they dont have the fast food culture of the us but live in countries with bad infrastructure, shoddy consumer items, and all around 2nd world level of living.

IINihilism isn't prison, its the ultimate freedom.
You can choose whichever goals, ambitions and meaning you want from life.

Mao was probably the worst ruler in all of Chinese history. If he had been an Emperor under China's Imperial system, he would have been said to have lost the mandate of heaven after all the artificial disasters that occurred which were directly attributable to his abysmal government. It amazes me that he has apologists.

>You can choose whichever goals, ambitions and meaning you want from life.
Yet at the back of your mind, there will always be that tiny nagging voice reminding you that it's all just bullshit. That doesn't sound like ultimate freedom to me.

Your dialogue started fine but the ending was bad. You see qt anime girls never say vulgar shit like
>Don't worry, we'll have some time to relax once our shift is done (◠‿◠)
In fact they seldom admit to reciprocate the protagonist's feelings towards them, they reserve this only to very stressful moments of the plot, and in a very child-like matter.

Holy... Almost makes being a commie cuck worth it

Red guards weren't qt in the slightest

Source: My grandparents from my mothers' side were 'struggle-session'd' by red guards. And my grandfather from my father's side was killed by red guards.

>Horrors of Maoism
Oh the humanity.
The bourgeoisie, nationalists and their shitty culture are getting their just deserts. How horrific.

>Source: My grandparents from my mothers' side were 'struggle-session'd' by red guards. And my grandfather from my father's side was killed by red guards.
Epic.

These kinds of posts are satire... right?

No. Mao unironically nothing wrong.

Except not purging Deng when they had the chance.

I fear not

Geez I love chinese chicks.

This thread is giving me feels I didn't know I had...

>ywn be a nationalist spy left behind on the mainland.
>ywn defend your qt qipao wearing waifu from vulgar filthy commies who make her dress in dull lifeless uniforms and smash the ancestral tablets.
>ywn save her in the nick of time after they find the library in her house full of forbidden classical literature where you would pass the time together perusing the Chinese classics, where you first saw her blush when both your eyes stopped on a copy of the Jin Ping Mei.
>ywn hijack a fishing boat at gunpoint to escape across the strait to Taiwan with her even though you know you will be punished under military discipline upon arrival for compromising your mission early.
>ywn have a comfy happy family with her as Taiwan's economy takes off in the 60s and 70s while the mainland becomes a living hell.

boy this looks fun

youtube.com/watch?v=PsDWYX5-5EQ

Ransacking museums, temples, and historic sites. Smashing every piece of porcelain and burning every buddha. Truly a movement we should all look up to.

Oh, my revolutionary girl.

Let us crush capitalist imperialism together!!

Yes.

Fuck old Chinese culture.

>usa and western europe the birthplace and cradle of cucked by brown people movement

>calls commies cucks

Retard

Because communism = propaganda, that's what you can witness with this topic

This

thicc

>It made me realize how cynical and uninspired the modern world is. Sure, people often have vague notions of humanity and social good, but the idea of an animating ideology that could inspire people to sell away their soul or life is completely unthinkable to us.

Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St. Paul
Give me Christ
Or give me Hiroshima

youtube.com/watch?v=vnaxvBsyigM

>ywn be a Basque Catholic fighting for the Nationalists in Spain
>ywn leave your village with all your friends and relatives to fight communism
>ywn promise your pure and chaste catholic gf that you will return to marry her in the Church
>ywn rebuild the churches communists destroyed with your own blood

I would pay so much money to get beaten up by these girls

You know that Veeky Forumstorians are all communist hacks when they praise a movement that led to countless destruction of historical documents and monuments.

Communism is a cancer.

Have you ever been to Taiwan, where old Chinese culture was preserved? It's really beautiful. Why are you so racist against Chinese culture? What a hateful little man.

That's exactly what Marxism is all about. The communist state is guaranteed, there's nothing you can do to change that.

Start a revolution or sit around. The end result will be the same if you're deluded enough to believe in Marxism.

> you'll never have rl Claire Underwood as your wife
Ughhhhh

I disagree, personally I dig glorious proletarian culture more.

You get to see only the hot ones.

>(official figure)
Which "official figure"? The various anti-communist "experts" that have never done field research like Chang? Or the Deng government that ideologically needed to inflate numbers to appease foreign liberals and justify full implementation of capitalism? The body of Western liberals that can never agree what the body count was and find some excuse to increase the number by millions every year?

>The cultural revolution killed 500,000 - 2 million
>500,000 - 2 million
youtube.com/watch?v=QhnsC2V4_0w

>It was increasing before he came into power too
Not at the rate that collectivization made possible. Hell, one of the criticisms of collectivization by foreign "experts" was that population increase (along with privileging the poor over the land lords) was a problem. As a matter of fact, population increase is directly related to the activity of collectivization with its massively more efficient use of land not only not dividing it up into slivers for whole families to use, but increasing the irrigated land in China by double figures. It's literally ONLY because of Maoist land reform that billions DIDN'T die since feudal agricultural would have never met the needs of even a modest pre-revolutionary population increase (which is par for the course for China, whose history "is a history of famine," though let's not forget that after the Three Bad Years China wasn't subjected to famine).

You might want to conflate this with "holocaust denial" but there's actual evidence for that. No shit tons of people died during the revolutionary period and many of them did die from famine or from persecution but both of those weren't nearly as common as is "reported".

>I don't know the exact provenance of the picture, I googled "cultural revolution executions,"
Well it does matter to have details. Like that detail, for example. If you knew anything about landlords you'd agree they deserved to be killed. Recall Mark Twain's comment on two terrors.

Are you accusing Chinese of racism against themselves? Were Europeans racist against European when they destroyed their own pagan cultural artifacts after adopting Christianity?

No but an edgy western leftist advocating the destruction of China's cultural heritage sure is. And yes Mao definitely had issues with a deep-seated self hatred and internalized racism against Chinese, due to failing at getting into university which he blamed on Confucianism.

>edgy western rightist resorting to diagnosing psychosis

pottery

>Rightist
>Because I don't believe in genocide.
Whatever, I've been to China and Taiwan and you certainly haven't. Go ahead and keep idolizing a horrible period in history which even CCP members I've met think was an awful mistake. Or go to Taiwan and burn a museum down if you hate traditional Chinese culture that much.

Just about nothing in this world pisses me off more than the cultural revolution.

I want to fucking nuke the bastards as punishment, damn the collateral damage. They deserve it.

>It's an Americunts get upset about some broken shit they never cared about to begin with episode

>I will never know what it's like to be this inauthentic

Feels good actually. Try crying about the shit your granddaddies broke before you go crying about someone else taking their "culture" into their own hands.

Tell me, why are you on a history board if you hate history?

Why don't you just go to /leftypol/?

I like history quite a bit. I also think it's interesting when people take history into their hands and make history of their own. You know, like what happens in all societies. Ever.

Why are you on a history board if you hate that history is an organic development of peoples that is always changing?

Why don't you go to /reddit/ or some place to have a good cry about it.

I somehow doubt you approve of the German people organizing in Freikorps to resist a communist takeover as "making history of their own".

You are just a communist who is ok with massive destruction of historical documents as long as it serves your ideology.

unga wunga

kek

>wanting a communist gf
have fun using gender neutral pronouns your whole life

>You will never go on patrol with her
>You will never scout and report on nationalist scum with her
>You will never accompany her in her boundless optimism and idealism for the future

>Freikorps
>organized to do anything but overthrow a liberal constitutional republic

This is a very silly post. You should like to learn about pre-Nazi Germany and pre-Civil War China precisely because they are monumental episodes of people reacting to their own intolerable situations and both were intolerable, though the Chinese peasantry and workers understood their conditions much better than the disenfranchised Imperialist-minded German middle-class and did not, in fact, commit the gruesome, REAL crimes against humanity the Germans did. You may disapprove of both (though it's clear you don't know why you do) but any proper analysis should lead to some kind of sympathy as to why these things happened, which leads directly into this next part:

>as it serves your ideology
YOU are the one having a hissy fit about what other people do with their artifacts. YOU are ass-blasted about it because of YOUR ideology granting you the right to condemn people for doing exactly the same thing that your own people have done to themselves and countless others! Incredible.

Yes the real shame is that any classical paintings, lacquerware, literature, architecture, and sculpture survived the pyres. Propaganda posters, commieblocks, and mass-produced concrete statues are clearly a superior form of art because they embody the ideals of the people and don't require any fancy education to understand. And how else can you bring about positive change without destroying thousands of years worth of material culture in one go?

I unironically agree.

>never cared about to begin with episode

Yea it's not like traditional Chinese culture has been fetishized by the western world ever since Europeans learned that it existed. It'd be pretty awkward if things like the tea ceremony, silk paintings, furniture, picturesque art, landscape gardening, and porcelain were valued by foreigners and just spontaneously destroyed for no good reason. I'm glad that things like Confucius' philosophy weren't appreciated and didn't form the backbone of physiocracy and influence the invention of economics as a field of study.

>you will never reduce user's waifu to something strongly resembling black licorice

Even Kim Il-Sung thought the Cultural Revolution was an act of "unbelievable idiocy."

1) Was talking about you. Unless YOU are Han living in China it has literally nothing to do with you and you are only pretending that you care about it.
2) What you're describing is largely a fiction. You want Orientalist love for China and its culture? There are any number of fancy paintings of Turkish palace life and the finesses of the "the Orient". How about Mary Shelley's lovely dotage about "the lazy Chinese" in her classical Frankenstein? Yes Confucius was a curious interest for a few 18th century intellectuals. Except it wasn't until the 20th century that the average person knew anything about Confucius, and still not even 1% of Westerners have ever read his work.
3) Confucianism was shit for everyone but 1% of the Chinese population, didn't help anyone. In fact, traditional Chinese religion and philosophy is responsible for keeping Chinese in a highly inefficient and oppressive pre-modern civilization with such wonderful contributions as foot-binding, class system, geomancy based burials.

>BUT I DON'T LIKE CHINESE PEOPLE CHANGING THEIR CULTURE IT'S MOST IMPORTANT THAT THEY APPEASE ME WHAAA

If only I could go back in time and tell them to destroy more kek

>you and your wife and her lasses will never send the """""""""greatest""""""""" """""""""army"""""""" """""""""""""""""ever"""""""""""""" packing with their tiny imperialist """""""""""""""dicks"""""""""""""""" between their legs

user, there is no need to be angry. We're having a polite discussion about our feelings.

>mfw Project Pheonix

I agree user, you don't have to be angry. :^)

Now you're getting in the spirit of things.

Yeah that's why Taiwan is an awful land of foot-bound female slaves under brutal-
Oh wait it's a first world country that only the richest parts of the mainland are barely catching up to in living standards.
And good luck finding a Han Chinese who things the cultural revolution was a good thing lol. Actually I would pay money to see you drop your spaghetti trying to talk to some real Chinese people about how cool destroying their culture was. Turns out modern Chinese people are very proud of their culture and rightfully so. Btw I didn't know brainwashed teenagers who grew up learning only Mao and then were used by him in a power grab against more reasonable CCP members were "the people and workers" but whatever gets you off I guess.

>highly inefficient and oppressive pre-modern civilization
So...Maoism then?

>Yeah that's why Taiwan is
We're talking about the past, kid. Chinese culture was never you special snowflake Oriental paradise and the vast majority of Chinese persons agree that it wasn't since they themselves chose to change it, I'm sorry to say.
>And good luck finding a Han Chinese who things the cultural revolution was a good thing lol
Well it's a good thing that something called the Great Proletariat Cultural Revolution happened and that literally hundreds and hundreds of millions of Chinese took part in it. :^) And lots still do, despite Dengist reversal and the attempts to rehabilitate traditional culture (or in addition to it). But this, again, is the privilege of the Chinese, and not yours.

>y-y-you're j-j-just edg-g-gy
>literally the kid regurgitating mindless propaganda with no respect for history and its actors accusing anyone of being "brainwashed"