Alright, time for Veeky Forums to address the pressing issue of our time:

The argument encompasses hundreds of years of history, the actual phrase was coined in a political essay written 30 years ago. By your own standards, this post would be on topic.

If we allowed threads on such a flimsy etymological basis then everything is Veeky Forums.

No. Fuck off and take it to the correct board.

Privilege is a liberal conspiracy to keep leftists distracted dealing with small minorities, then psychologically turning them against the white working class (who they see as reactionaries because they don't like Trannies) and for neoliberalism (open borders, loyalty to free trade organizations like the EU)

It's quite genius actually... neoliberals have managed to get all the socialists talking about the 500 black people being killed by cops as opposed to the tens of millions of blacks living on the edge of or in poverty.

I don't like the identity politics of black activists, which seem to be pouring over in my country, the Netherlands. But I do think that prejudice towards the black man and women still exist.

It also has to do with group dynamics. Hence I do not like identity politics because they push themselves further into their own community.

But the States is a whole different beast all together. We do not have hopeless ghettos were I come from.

Does white privilege exist? Duh.
However, its fucking retarded at this point to think its entirely to blame on systemic racism. At a certain point you have to look inwards with the black community and realize that the vast majority of the problems stem from the fact that fathers abandon their children at an overwhelmingly larger rate than everyone else. This leads to sons turning to gangs, and gangs are whats killing black people by the dozen every day in big cities, not racism.
Black men arent stupid thugs. Black women arent terrible mothers. Black people are not more prone to violence. However, the black family unit has always been a clusterfuck and black men need to step up their game and raise their fucking kids.

Literally everything encompasses billions of years of history.

Pointing out a flaw in your own arbitrary system of rules doesn't make you right

You are in your very own question said "The pressing issues of our time". you are dealing with things happening right now, whenever or not it is related to things happening in the past.

"White privilege" narrative is on par with with Soviet narratives that demonized the kulaks. It's a very naked excuse for disposession.

Of course there's prejudice, but the demands they have are diluted by COINTELPRO infiltrators who also make their tactics just make the white working class just go "fucking niggers" creating more division of the working class.

Look up intersectionality, for a philosophy and a supposedly activist philosophy there is very little easily found mainstream criticism of it.

The best critiques are either Marxist (Which are relatively critical of the fact that they write off class and pervert dialectics) or Libertarians (Who hate the grammar police and are largely aware of the oddness that there is very little mainstream criticism of it. even though it's all over university campuses where everything is supposed to be looked at critically.)

But even most of the Marxists fall for the meme and spend all their time focusing on BLM and various other intersectional causes (Once again COINTELPRO)

Is intersectionality a form of Hegelian phenomenology? How do you categoricallly classify it?

Also, how the fuck are you supposed to argue against "lived experiences"? I see this all the time and I'm not sure how I'm supposed to engage with it when I see it.

Funny how of all the boards on Veeky Forums, it's only on his do I get to use the report function.

Privilege means private law. The only private law that effects black people is that they're more likely to get into college with the same high school scores and they're more likely to avoid means testing for welfare.

So no. White privilege doesn't just not exist, black privilege exists.

His isn't the substitute for pol when you want non retarded discussion.

It's the wrong board, nothing to do with his opinion

Everyone has a form of privilege.
Homeless people get pity privilege.
Blind people get the "I accidentally touched you inappropriately but it's ok cause I'm blind and couldn't see that" privilege.

>25 Year Rule
>Pressing issue of out time.
Fuck off, /pol/

There's some perverted Hegel in it.

At least that's what I gathered from my time with college Marxists that started just before occupy and ended just now. The idea of intersectionality kinda caught me by surprise, it just sort of came in like a cancer during occupy and never left the left.

But onto the Hegelian parts of intersectionality , the idea of class struggle and dialectics exist, but they exist in a different nature, instead of the lower class upsetting the upper class, it's the least privileged races taking equality one by one.

It offsets class war for at least a half century as anyone who is a leftist revolutionary will be caught up in the idea that dialectics means helping certain people on a needs basis

Yeah but it's not a conspiracy as much as it is a hangover from the fact that the actually existing racist state never attempted to integrate non-white citizens into the nation's economy as free agents. There's inherited wealth and inherited poverty, Blacks have as a population a huge percentage of inherited poverty because post-Emancipation America (and I'm not focusing on Europe because I'm not nearly as familiar with its history of racism) continued racism through politics for economic and social satisfaction of Whites (creating laws to specifically target Blacks, have then incarcerated, and work as "not-slaves" for some local capitalist). Time goes on and these practices are exposed and repressed, but the desire maintains and they find more subtle ways to oppress chiefly Blacks but also other minorities. And so on and so on.

What's going on since then is a direct product of this, where Black repression (much preferable at describing the phenomenon than White privilege desu) is an almost completely unconscious reflex. Again, it's not as crippling and ubiquitous as it was even in the 70s, but sure it's real.

None of that is real. None of that exists outside of the impressions and constructs you've formed in your mind. Only laws are real.

MOOOOOOODS

I happen to know a bit of intersectionality. I keep my eye on most political movements. As example I lurk at r/srsdiscussion to get a glimpse.

Intersectionality plays a role there and is often discussed there but I've seen also a lot of Marxist stuff there too. Class is discussed.

With dialectics, what do you mean? Marx?

I happen to be somewhat sympathetic of social justice while at the same time absolutely disagreeing with certain tenets of it and at some times even find it ridiculous.

As for lived experiences the best retort is the idea that everyone has lived experiences that often contradict each other. You have decades of memories and events that happen to you, the ones you remember are based on what you're feeling at the time, therefore every single person has a lived experience for any emotion at any occasion that can be triggered when necessary by the time they're about 25.

Only correct answer ITT

Point out that 'lived experience' just means 'in my experience'. Its a way of passing off one's opinion as a fact, like saying something is problematic. To whom is it problematic?

>My lived experience is that women make poor drivers

Of course you might be dealing with the sort of people who believe subjective and passing opinions are just as valid as anything else. In which case just drop Hume on them and run away.

Elaborate. Just elaborate at your own like.. discretion. You said you knew more so I would like to understand your interpretation of it

There's a certain shaming movement within Marxist groups on Identity Politics and the idea that race, nationality, gender identity and sexuality, which I see as spooks are a faction of class struggle that requires action, then they label poor whites reactionaries for being grossed out by trans people.

>Does white privilege exist?
Good question OP. Do white people play the most major roles in the majority of western societies?
If so. Then yes.

W-Wouldn't that make sense though since white people are the most populous in the western world?

How does that illustrate literally anything?

>A sect that possesses the most powerful positions in society doesn't have privileges above the sects that don't

No

what is true is that Anglosaxon countries are more racist than the average country

In the USA you needed a civil war to end slavery, the local Anglosaxons had a hard time accepting the Italians, and even the Irish, as white, and in the 60s there were still lynchings of Blacks by civilians.
In the USA they believe in the one drop rule, Obama who is only half black is seen as a Black man. And diversity means a society made off very different groups of people who respect each other's differences but dont mix, a Zoo and not a melting pot.

In South Africa you had the Apartheid until the mid 90s, in both South Africa and Australia Bushmen and Abos were seen as animals, even being hunted, in relatively recent times
And now the UK left the EU, largely because of Polish immigration.

Social Justice Warriors, affirmative action, and the bullshit leftist college careers like Black studies, were born because of that. As an American solution to an American problem, a very idiosyncratic thing.
What is bad is that the American academia ends up spreading and imposing their bullshit to the rest of the world, even to countries which have no racial problems or much less than the rest of the world.

A Brazilian should never pay attention to an American Anthropologist who criticizes discrimination in Brazil, because there is nothing they could learn from in USA in that aspect.

Isn't that really simplistic and reductionist though? You haven't proven anything, you simply gave your opinion using a not very clear analogy.

So, when will the brown eyed people admit their privilege and make some quotas for us bright-eyeds?

GO AWAY /POL/

Your not wrong about how easily Slavery was abolished in other Countries compared to the U.S

It's not a complex question. It seems so obvious I feel like demonstrating it would be patronising.

Nobody in western society identifies with other people based simply on their eye colour.

Guys I think a lot of us are in agreement that this is a blatant /pol/ thread
Everyone report this shit before the other /pol/ tards think its okay to come here with their thinly veiled shitpost

>Does white privilege exist? Duh.
very well reasoned arguments there user

You didn't answer anything though. Okay, white people hold the majority of "major roles". How does that necessarily conclude that white privilege and second class citizenship exists?

But yeah, don't feel worry about whether or not you'll come across as patronising, because right now you are coming across as massively retarded

I'd say it exists but only in a sense that it arises out of whites being the majority race in America.

If you went to Nigeria and noticed that all Nigerian films had an all Nigerian cast with Nigerian cultural tropes...is this because of some racist power structure trying to exclude white people from the Nigerian film industry? Or is it merely a consequence of Nigeria being majority Nigerian?

so you don't know what privilege is then