Why does Belgium exist?

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België is een niet-land

Belgium is a non-country

Everyone itt is wrong.

Belgium exists because French-speaking industrialists wanted independence from the Netherlands, who ruled Belgium prior to the Belgian revolution of 1830.

The Flemish got dragged into it mostly for religious reasons:
Dutch: protestants
Flemish & Walloons: catholic

Big mistake on the part of the Flemish, since the independence from the Dutch also cut off access to the Dutch colonial ports, which were the primary source for the raw materials needed by the Flemish textile industry.

Also, The Walloons have been trying to shit all over the Flemish language and culture ever since 1830.

Today is the Day of the Flemish Community btw, commemorating a tremendous victory by the Flemish over the French elite at the Battle of the Golden Spurs on July 11 1302.

Wat Waelsch is, valsch is. Sla dood.

>post-Napoleon France
>anything but Britain's submissive fuck-puppet

nice try eternal anglo

Btw, there was no "Belgium" prior to 1830, only regions, counties, duchies, ...
"Belgium" as it was created in 1830 was a completely artificial union of French speakers (Walloons) and Flemish speakers (Flemish).

There is little doubt that the original Belgian elite had planned on "Frenchifying" the Flemish from the start.

One of the founders of "Belgium" (Charles Rogier) famously said: "Belgium shall be Latin (= French) or shall not be at all".

>Btw, there was no "Belgium" prior to 1830
Flemcuck pls
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Belgian_States
Belgium is by far a more historically sensible entity than 'Flanders', now go jerk off to your Conscience that you never bothered to read like the stupid shit you are.

Because the states it was between failed miserably to take it. The French captures it in 1790s but went on to lose it at end of the Napoleonic waR's. It was then given to the Dutch whose misrule caused dissent and secession in 1830 with the help of French troops. French politicians in turn dreamed of retaking Belgium through the century because of the idea that the Rhone was the "natural borser" of France. Attempts to forward this goal failed miserably due to internal divisions that wrought havoc throughout the 19th century and cause Napoleon iii (who also had interest in this endeavor iirc) got cucked by Prussia. Also, eternal Anglo promised to protect belgium, though I'm not sure If it really wpuld have kept it's word, though it certainly spooked many a French politician.

>France
No. Read your history book again. Up to WWI there was talk of annecxing belgium and the Belgians in turn were scared of a French movement in belgium against the grtmans

"United Belgian States" existed for less than a year, and occurred only 40 years prior to the actual Belgian revolution of 1830.
It was a little warm-up.

>Belgium is by far a more historically sensible entity than 'Flanders'
DOHOHOHOHOHO

"Flanders" as a political entity has existed continuously (with varying degrees of autonomy) for over 1500 years, to this very day.

Modern "Belgium" first began to take shape 200 years ago as an artificial mishmash of two ethnicities with a common enemy at the time.

The name "Belgium" comes from a loose confederation of Celts that Julius Caesar wiped out 2,000 years ago for Christ's sake.
How sad is a country if it has to scrounge legitimacy by naming the place after that shit?

Best solution would still be that would Flanders become a part of the 'Kingdom Of The Netherlands', just like our caribean Islands have an own parliament and Prime Minister

belgium is a non country

>pretty much

there's literally no historical reason for that though
flanders has been a part of the king of the netherlands for exactly 15 years in all of history, before that the only time they were united was under burgundy and later various habsburg dynasties

Its the Result of the Hasburg Netherlands devoloping a diffferent identity
Basicly the Spanish cucked The Netherlands in Half

To weaken France.

>Dutch: protestants
>Flemish & Walloons: catholic

This is posted every time somebody mentions Belgium and it's wrong.
The Catholic/Protestant divide does not coincide with the Dutch/Belgian Border.

Question: Why didnt France try to re-annex Belgium after its vast coal reserves were discovered?

France lagged behind in the industrial revolution because of its lack of coal, having Belgium coal reserves would've turned it into a superpower.

Why was there so many catholics in Holland?

>Belgium overwhelmingly Catholic
>Netherlands overwhelmingly Protestant
kill yourself retard

Those are areas conquered late in the Dutch-Spanish war, after decades of stable Spanish rule. For two centuries the Dutch considered these lands as buffer area and didn't bother with them too much.

Sure, but that border between the southern and northern low countries had existed for a few hundred years before the Belgian revolution.

During the Belgian revolution, that's where the countries split, and generalized religion had a lot to do with it.

Belgium is a non-country

The world needs someone to make our waffles.

Because capital needs a center of power in Europe.

It's a buffer state where the brits and french can fight the Germans.

The northern part of the Duchy of Brabant was centered around the base of power which gave rise to the Orange-Nassau family; Breda.

William the Silent came from this branche, after his uncle; Henry III of Nassau-Breda had been appointed Stadtholder to the Spanish Kings he inherited these titles on the death of Henry, dropped the Breda suffix and added his Orange suffix.

The most-northern Catholic lands became a bastion of pro Orange-Nassau power and were more loyal to them than they ever were to the Spanish.

Cross reference this with the Union of Utrecht and Union of Atrecht and it simply became the part where fighting stopped between the Dutch and the Spanish (later Belgians), because none could budge Dutch power in those regions.

Also; the north is as heavily Protestant because the Spanish allowed the Protestants merchants to leave for the north after they conquered a city/regions (see: Antwerp).

Too bad there was no implementation of the Talleyrand plan after the Belgian war.

To rule the EU, because that's where Brussels is amiright?

Eh; Brussels is just a front so that Strasbourg can get away with even graver shit.

Belgians split off from the Netherlands in order to get themselves annexed by France.

But Britain "guaranteed Belgium's neutrality", making it clear that if France annexed Belgium it would start a huge war again just like Britain had already done against Napoleon for exactly the same reason.

So France didn't annex Belgium. A century later, it would be the Germans, not the French who violated its neutrality.

Huh, I always knew France was actually the one ruling the EU.

Because buffer zone between France and Germany

Strasbourg is pretty much a symbolic representation of the EU as a post WWII Franco-German power.

Brussels is Brussels because it was decentralized/divided enough already for EU purposes and that it was the Belgians that ended up being a driving force for further federalization when it came to the early years of the EEC.

Unironically this
And a little this

Anglos

BELGIUM IS A NON-COUNTRY.

Belgien ist ein Nichtland.

>Netherlands overwhelmingly Protestant
>60-40 split

België is een Nichtenland.

So much retardation ITT it's painful to read
is the right answer
and also

Is of Dutch clay

sand*

Dubs of truth.
Ceci n'est pas un pays.

t. Magritte

>tfw i am belgian and read this thread
it hurts everytime

Shouldn't it be all islam?

Belgium is a non-country

Belgium is a non-country

Pls gibe dutch cheese

Belgium is a spook

Belgium is a non country

iktf

La Belgique est un non-pays

Belgium is a non-country

France wouldn't look hexagonal if it didn't

this. it only exists to make france look as perfectly aesthetic as it does.

Fund it.

We'd be robbed of our hexagonal harmony, but we'd gain unprecedented parralelism with Wallonia mirroring Upper Normandy.

Spanish Netherlands

Belgium is a non country.
Like Bosnia and Montenegro.

You are not belgian you are wallonian or flemish living in a non state

When will you agree to let your country be split between the french and dutch

Luxembourg should also be taken tbqh they speak mostly french after their own crappy language. It'd also make francophone borders aesthetic

You are not British you are english or scottisch living in a non state

When will you agree to let your country be split between the english and scottish

>destroying countries because of border autism

Kill yourself faggot
Pleeg zelfmoord
Vous tuer

La Belgique est un pays qui existe a cause de l'Angleterre qui voulait controller les affaires sur le continent.
De nos jours les pays qui ne sont pas des Etats-Nations n'ont aucune raison d'exister

British people have a shared history, cultural similarities, and we all speak one language. None of that is true in Belgium.

>British people have a shared history
So do all the people in the entire Low Lands dumbass

>cultural similarities
same here for walloons and flemmings

>we all speak one language
because the English actively tried to kill the Gaelic languages, and those languages are still around (Wales, Ireland, Scotland and Cornwall)

i can play this game all day fuccboi

sorry maatje mijn frans is niet zo goed maar ik heb den helft toch wel begrepen

UK isn't a nation state because of how messy it is, although I see no problem with splitting the country by nationalities

Belgium is stupid because the country speaks the 2 languages of its neighbours

Would you make a country between France and Spain that speaks both languages?

>the country speaks the 2 languages of its neighbours
>its neighbours
the people speak the language of their own people. Flemings aren't Dutch people trapped across a border. They're a whole different people altogether. Walloons weren't even speaking standard French until Napoleon popped through.

>Would you make a country between France and Spain that speaks both languages?
What is Andorra. Guess what there's even a country between Germany, France and Italy what all of their languages.

>he actually believes andorra has a right to exist
>he doesn't understand that switzerland has existed for a while and wasn't simply a country created to give the UK a foothold on europe

Face it, Belgium was the Israel of its time and it only exists because there haven't been any opportunities for annexation

kek

Belgium strong, swamp kikes and frogs stay mad

This

yer mom is the Israel of this time

I'm a proud Belgian, fuck all the swamp kikes, burgers, frogs, krauts and all the other jews of this earth

EENDRACHT MAAKT MACHT

Lemme guess, wallonian? Only a parasitic wallonian would want to continue Belgium as is.

neger kzin zo vlaams dak het graefschap were wil ein, ga weg kissak en stem nog een beetje op Bart " de bouletbaron" de Wever

That's true, and in many ways the UK is already reasonably close to splitting.

HOWEVER Britain and British identity are solidified by the fact they've actually done something other than be the Kaisers punching bag during their 300 year existence.

Britishness without colonies is a non-identity and there is no such thing as British ethnicity but Britain isn't a non-country: Belgium is.

>wallonian
he clearly wrote his last sentence in dutch you idiot

It's not even a real country

incredible