Before British colonization, did India exist?
Would a Muslim Balochi feel part of the same broad culture as a Hindu from Ceylon?
Were the Burmese ever considered Indian before the British lumped them together?
Before British colonization, did India exist?
Connor Johnson
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Jason Robinson
An Indian nation still doesn't exist, just an Indian state. India is a huge landmass full of completely different peoples, cultures and languagues that were forced together for the sake of (mostly) convinience.
Modern India is like if all of the countries of Europe were united into a big United States of Europe. It just wouldn't work at all, and it doesn't work for India.
Julian Baker
India is as made up as all nation states, except moreso and not even recognised by a large portion of indians. A lot of people weren't even aware they had been colonised until brits announced their withdrawal.
Adrian Sanchez
The answer is no and they would most likely not unite.
Kayden Martin
There was India like there was Europe. The idea existed because India had been united many times in the past.
Josiah Bennett
>and it doesn't work for India.
It really does though. The issues in India are not the result of unity.
Christian Peterson
But did an idea of India exist among people later designated as Indians?
Kevin Peterson
Not really, no. The idea of an Indian nation only came about after the British had fully conquered the continent, and the people knew that they had to unite if they were going to kick them out, after all Britain (and the Mughals before them, and the Afghanis before them, and the Arabs before them) had only conquered so much land because it was all divided between possibly hundreds of kings and princelings, they would have to be united.
There was at most the idea of Arya Varta, which was thought to be the whole world, and venturing outside of it was anathema to Hindus, if anyone did it they were outcast.
Caleb Collins
India is linguistically much more diverse than the whole of Europe. Some would argue culturally as well.
Indian traditions as we know them are largely Western stereotypes of Northern and Central Indian customs, appropriated by Gandhi and his successors to create an India that all British Indian subjects could understand.
Colton Long
Not true, at least for the eastern parts of the country like Nagaland and Assam (descended from the Kingdom of Ahom, a sometimes-Chinese tributary sometimes-independent state which was closer ethnically, culturally and linguistically to Burma). Those areas are essentially under military occupation due to steong resistance; they share very little in common with the rest of the country. Many are small tribes, a large portion of people are either animists or Christians, and the states are poor and undeveloped.
Aaron Wright
>*strong resistance
Eli Miller
POO IN LOO xD
John Anderson
Speaking of poo in loo, I've been wondering, is the public/open defecation dealio a Hindu thing, or an overall Indian thing? Do Indian Muslims do it? Do Sikhs?
Luke Wood
Overall.
Also a shit in Pakistan and Bangladesh. I think even up to A-Stan but Afghanistan has a different problem entirely and its not overpopulated.
Christopher Sanchez
It's a poverty/population density thing
Jason Davis
French nobility used to openly deficate in the Palace of Versailles.
Landon Peterson
In a LOO m8
Not in the street like in India.
Aiden Moore
No.
Charles Williams
>Would a Muslim Balochi feel part of the same broad culture as a Hindu from Ceylon?
No, balochis are part of the greater iranic culture. There's a distinct difference historically, ethnically, linguistically, phenotypically and culturally between the different sides of indus river across which india begins.
Julian Rodriguez
No, in the hallways
Gavin Bennett
Yes.
No, but the area was influenced by India.
No, but the area was influenced by India.
Jordan Martinez
"United"
Kayden Garcia
The brits used to throw their shit on the streets of london
Literally designated shitting streets
Brandon Richardson
>ancient Indians expanded to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Burma, Cambodia, Laos, Tibet, Nepal, China, Malaysia, Indonesia, east Africa, Thailand, Philippines, Australia
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Daniel Jenkins
>Modern India is like if all of the countries of Europe were united into a big United States of Europe.
Dude, India is more like Europe AND Africa lumped together. Europe is far more homogeneous ethnically, culturally and economically than India.
William Lee
That's like saying the Persians, Greeks, and Afghans considered themselves one people at some point in time because Alexander united those territories.
Jason Nguyen
Wow, just wow.
Brayden Peterson
Inb4 Izzard
Liam Young
All that territory, but no loos to poo in
Leo Peterson
What the fuck. Is this the Hwan Empire of pooloos?
Colton Roberts
Every society had a public defecation problem until scarily recently.
India is more developed than much of the world, but is full of cities whose populations grow faster than can be accommodated, leading to the creation of shantytowns and apartment buildings with no room for toilets, so people just shit in the street.
The Indian government is building public toilets everywhere, but that's a huge fucking project when you have a billion people and need 300 million toilets, and probably need to hire 800,000 janitors to keep these public toilets usable.