>C'thun decks are slow yet minion-heavy, with weak board clears >Aggro decks are being played to exploit the start of a new meta
Why aren't you taking Patrons to ladder right now, /hsg/?
William Lee
How can I make this more consistent?
Don't give me a list with like 5 murlocs and Tirion please.
Ryan Anderson
>How can I make this more consistent? Literally include tirion, the hands-down best legendary in the game
Hudson Hill
Sir finley doesn't synergize with inquisitors. Just drop him.
Secrets aren't worth the deck slot.
You need the 3 mana "give 1 health minions divine shield"
Coldlight oracle usually will screw you. Drop it.
I don't think seer is that good, 2 attack is not a lot.
Equality is good for trading with big minions when you have many small ones.
Having divine favors depends on the meta. I would put only 1 in at this point and if the meta turns to control then reconsider.
Noah Thompson
I forgot to mention which seer I Was talking about. I don't think coldlight seer is that good. Corrupted seer I'm not sure about.
David Ross
Zoo is fucking disgusting. It reminds of the days when it first hit the ladder.
Connor Williams
>mfw the Evolve Shaman I'm playing against has me down to half health, has full board control on his side but plays evolve that gives him a Doomsayer
I would not had a chance to recover and win if it wasn't for that specific turn.
Aiden Russell
Councilman will probably get nerfed. He's just too insane at 5 health.
Too bad I literally haven't drawn him or juggler at the same time I had a forbidden ritual to play. It feels like either councilman or the rituals are always on the bottom of the deck.
Daniel Foster
It'll average out eventually. The deck is pretty good even when you can't wombo combo, but when you can it's just pretty much GG. Most games don't make it past turn 7.
Noah Brooks
>it's a coin truesilver episode
Sebastian Moore
>beating people with your shitty steward + stand against darkness deck
Gonna admit, this expansion is pretty fun
William Campbell
>You will never return home with darkshire waifu >She will never give your little guy divine shield
David Roberts
Zoo vs Zoo is pretty fucking hilarious. It feels like I'm watching some weird kabuki theater
Jordan Taylor
Any improvements or suggestions? Trying to go for legend - at 4 currently. I think Fandral and Brann might be dubious.
Charles Williams
Replace Fandral with something else
Eli Allen
>Went from 10-5 in an hour with Zoo
Sloer meta they said. Aggro is dead they said.
Parker Reed
>Winstreak to 8 >RNG starts shitting on me Welp guess that's it for tonight. I'll let blizzard's RNG machine reset then finish up.
Austin Brown
Just play Zoo.
Carter Wright
I was. I went from perfect opening curves and topdecks against slow ass c'thun and freeze decks to never having a turn 1, 2, or 3 play against c'thun and midrange specifically tuned to counter aggro.
Blake Sullivan
Lemme see your deck senpai.
Wyatt Powell
It's literally netdecked zoo but with double DID
This just happens every time I've started to win too much. If I wait a few hours and start laddering again my draws will be back and I'll finish my streak to 5.
Jonathan Myers
Try dropping a Dark Iron and a Doomguard for Gormok and Leeroy if you have them. Gormok's effect and Leeroy's extra 1 point of damage + no discard has won me a lot of games.
Hunter Wright
this dude just singlehandedly won me an arena game killing 3 midrange minions and hitting face for 16. i love him
Gabriel Bell
>Hit rank 5 >Literally only play against decks that counter me until I fall back to rank 6
Absolutely 100% rigged.
Gavin Allen
>do arena >mage gets felguard from faceless summoner >next game >this happens >he has 2 2 mana spells in hand Great expansion.
Chase Long
Is there a viable N'Zoth deck out there? i'm trying to make this work, but no heals or taunts makes this very weak to anything tempo oriented
Landon Diaz
why is it so dead
Chase Long
>brann >cthun SIXTY FIREBALLS
Jaxson Davis
Is death rattle hunter viable??
with the new meme princess card
Leo Howard
>it's a aggro Hunter/shaman/druid are still everywhere episode and almost nothing has changed
Carter Perry
I'm running it without her. It's viable by itself. N'zoth can be a nice finisher. But honestly I'm winning a fair share of games without him.
Dylan Young
Because wrong thread
Hunter Scott
I'm only running it because iv'e opened her 3 times
I still need n'zoth :(
Benjamin Ortiz
this expansion is the worst
Levi Diaz
Cairne and TBK are viable again, I love it just for that
Jordan Ward
no u
Liam Brooks
>having shit taste
Sebastian Nelson
>New Best Girl Edition >Not Shadowcaster
Dylan Nelson
how many draw cards does CW need? 1 slam, 2 shield block, 2 acolytes. is that already fine?
Christopher Gutierrez
Try something like this but with Reno instead.
Elijah Stewart
So Doomcaller, yay or nay? Doesn't do shit the turn you play it, but gives you double the pleasure, double the fun.
Noah Martinez
*TBK, Sylv and Ragnaros are viable again, I love it just for that.
Logan Reyes
>Craft N'Zoth >Buy one pack with gold >Get another N'Zoth
Carter Davis
Sylv and Rag were always viable.
Jacob Cox
>sorry rogues we can't print you anymore good cards, shadow caster just limits design space!
Liam Myers
I've been running Cairne in a few decks. Now that EVERYTHING doesn't have a great deathrattle, he really shines.
Hudson Taylor
I FUCKING TRIED TO TELL PEOPLE
BUT NOO "GAME WILL BE SO SLOW XD ALL THE AGGRO CARDS ARE GONE XDDD"
Oliver Parker
Shadow Word Death REALLY needs to be nerfed holy shit. Play a 10 mana baddy and it gets fucked STRAIGHT away.
Eli Long
1200 dust cost for n'zoth
naisu
Angel Stewart
Good to run a 1 of. You never know what's going to happen and C'Thun is your win condition.
Brandon Cox
>Slower meta they said. Aggro is dead they said.
Idiots said that. Aggro may have lost a few cards, but Healbot, Chow and Belcher rotating did far more for aggro than those few losses took away.
Jack Rogers
Oh yeah, thanks for telling us, "Anonymous"
We should always listen to you from now on
Brayden Bailey
might try that. i'm not sure there are enough good replacements tho
Carter Phillips
>New Midrange Hunter vs New Midrange Shaman Valuetown match-up.
I've only played one game with this match-up since everyone else is playing Cthun stuff, but it was extremely even and even ended in a top deck war. This is the kind of shit I like
Luke Rodriguez
>craft N'Zoth after opening all the packs >play arena with the last gold I had left for shits and giggles >get N'Zoth from a pack
Cameron Ortiz
Show decks that gives you good results
Christian Robinson
I'll simply not craft any of the new cards until I now what's actually going to be playable.
It'd hurt me to use 1600 dust on a legendary right now only for it to not be playable in a few weeks because the new cancer meta doesn't allow it.
Landon Wood
Its given pretty good results so far. Needs more play
Thomas Rogers
>81% win rate ever since Standard got implemented The fuck is going on
Jayden Gray
You should just play arena desu.
Kayden Brown
playing against hunter who played 4 highmane is not fun. fuck nzoth.
Brandon Perez
please tell me theres a jav with eloise...
Zachary Nelson
I'm yet to lose. 4-0 so far with this.Even beat a warrior who got up to 28 Armor 28 HP.
Levi Baker
I might be that warrior yesterday. Fuck you and your doom caller.
Ethan James
Where's the counterplay to C'Thun then?
Discard and denial mechanics don't exist so it's just a case of win before turn 10? That's not exactly easy considering their minions all have retarded good stats too. This whole "Everyone plays the same deck" and "Play on curve until 10 turn and auto win" really isn't very interactive.
Delinquent Duo when?
Joshua James
/hsg/ I need your help. I know for a fact that C'thun rogue will completely dominate all control matchups purely by virtue of having shadowstep, blade of c'thun, and c'thun himself. But I need help with building the rest of the deck. How do?
Aiden Sanders
No, it was only just now. C'thun had 28 attack by the time I played him.
Ian Johnson
people experiment most experiments are bad.
Nolan Taylor
REMOVE BLADE FLURRY YOU SHIT HEAD!
Brandon Roberts
mana wraith patron new hogger flood board put pressure the whole match
Brody Perry
>implying this is not clearly best girl
Henry Roberts
Problem with C'thun decks and mostly the mirror is that if you go second you lose, no exceptions
Dylan Martinez
Patron does a good job absorbing damage. Bolf helps too.
Jacob Bennett
Win before turn 10 or soon after, they're just throwing out vanilla minions while you get to use more fancy valuable shit
Joseph Cooper
gunna copy dis
Parker Hall
So long buddy, you were my best unpack ever but its time for new adventures
N'Zoth or Emperor
Colton Cooper
Didn't think much about Patron
However I find myself having trouble stabilizing the game against their constant value minions ever since we lost Deaths Bite
Cameron Perry
N'Zoth, Sylvanas
Mostly I agree though, you can't do a lot except hope they draw poorly while they play with themselves, like Freeze Mage.
Zachary Hall
Cthun decks fall apart if you grab board control early. They're forced to remove your shit and not play Cthun stuff or else they'll get tempoed out and lose before turn 10
Samuel Perez
Both
Connor Rivera
>their constant value minions vanilla stats?
Nathaniel Evans
nzoth is INSANE in deathrattle rogue and hunter. just copy the recipe decks and change some cards then you're good to go to have some real fun
Ian Ward
The stat lines are very good leaning on the defensive side of things, especially druid.
Also their giving C'thun stats is an effect you can't control and adds to the value. They're constantly gaining advantage through curving, that's pretty silly.
Ian Edwards
Why is nobody talking about N'zoth priest? I just whipped together a deck and am climbing from rank 7 with a 75% win rate
Brody Parker
>Try an arena run >pick mage >LITERALLY ONLY GET OFFERED ONE (1) MAGE SPELL THE ENTIRE DRAFT PHASE >IT'S FUCKING ICE BARRIER Fun Stories To Share With My Friends Like that one time I UNINSTALLED THIS TRASHHEAP OF A GAME was fun
Noah Russell
>2 blade flurries
Adam Rodriguez
What two legenderies should I craft?
The only legendery I ever play is ragnoros firelord and occasionally cenarius.
I unpacked fucking nozdormu and anubarack. That's pretty much it for my cards. I'm waiting to get hogger and then I can dust them.
I'm kind of tempted to just craft a zoo deck instead, but you always end up getting the normal cards eventually. I'm very nearly eternal arena.
William Reed
>75% win rate that's meaningless without the number of games you played
Thomas Anderson
Put it this way, Cthun minions literally do nothing if they don't get the chance to play Cthun, whether because you end the game before 10, they don't draw it or you pressure them too much for them to either get a big Cthun, or not die after playing him.
They're just vanilla minions while you get to play with shit like Master of Evolution, Highmanes and the like
Xavier Russell
Problem is I'm playing Rogue which relies on using efficient removal early to make plays with toxins and stuff later
They keep playing shit and I keep removing it but come time when I can actually pull stuff off I'm at like 19 health and they just dump C'thun on me and I'm done because rogue has no access to heals
Jackson Murphy
20
Asher King
oh and I got evil mukla, which is okay in my budget tempo mage. (no archmage)
Henry Gonzalez
OH MY FUCKING GOD I SUCK SO MUCH
Can anyone explain to me how to make a good deck? I've been playing this game for ages, but I still don't know
Isaiah Walker
You are at 15-5 with Nzoth priest? ok then
Aaron Davis
>wild is a complete shitfest and will remain that way since blizz has literally zero reason to balance it, and cancer decks will only get worse and worse >have to constantly play and buy packs in order to be close to relevant in standard >reprints will probably never happen and we'll never see brann in standard again soon enough
Get out of this game while you still can boys
Samuel Sullivan
c'thun warrior is fun - basically the good old control warrior with some sick taunts (2/6 for 4 with enrage +3 attack, 3/6 for 5 that buffs c'thun, and double 4/6 for 7) - the new shieldmaiden is sick, and Bran Bronzebeard makes some sick shit.
You won't win against them if you play from behind. The fact that you're answering their threats and not the other way round is really bad.
You're rogue, you have shit like SI7 Agent, sap and backstabs. Rogue is good at removing your opponent's shit and playing another minion
Connor Morgan
Fuck, as much as I hate Blizzard, they did an amazing job with this expansion. Having so much fun. Every class seems strong. Glad I preordered. My only gripe is the fact I can't try out every deck.