>something like - a game that uses a progression system that can be tied into stats and has a dialogue system that the player can make choices in >implying Fallout 4 has none of this
I cant use the codex installer as it wants the codex releases of the game and my game is legit.
Justin Hall
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Connor Cooper
th for nice view! Curie is CUTE!!
David Lee
best armor
Luis Perez
but I know what an rpg is
that makes me an erudite fag, cuck
Cameron Myers
Fallout 4 also has no equipment degridation, shit VO, shitty dialouge, and a shitty perk system
Isaiah Rodriguez
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Nolan Ramirez
You're a fucking moron. It's not about FO4 being an RPG or not. It's about FO4 being a shitty RPG that strips you of choice and logical dialogue options. You can never play as anything other than 200yr old Lawyer/War Vet looking for their baby and the game hammers this point down at most every encounter.
Nicholas Taylor
As fallout 2 and new vegas, but no one keeps shitting about it
Gabriel Walker
Yo so how do I finish the game with the minutemen and keep all the factions at peace?
I know there are vids for this but they're all really shitty. Has anyone here done it? These vids make it seem really complicated.
Evan Anderson
>Arguing about FO4 again >When you knew what you were buying into with a Bethesda game If you're not here for the porn mods and lewd shit then you might as well fuck off forever back to /v/ and keep shitting on the game there.
Tyler Lopez
Except those games were good and knew when to put character motivation to the wayside and had no "press x to shaun" moments
Liam Brooks
There's no way to keep all factions alive.
Luis Jones
Your choices mostly having very limited consequences is fine when you're a lone wastelander roaming around, that's fine. But in FO4 Bethesda in their infinite fucking wisdom gave you a whole faction to lead and several to influence and still thought it would be fine to apply the same, in some cases even more limited, consequences. That is not. Additionally your chosen skills and perks have no impact on the dialogue choices at all as long as you have enough charisma. That alone is unforgivable for a Fallout main series game.
Ethan Scott
Thanks Todd
Gavin Richardson
>It's not about FO4 being an RPG or not.
if you were following the discussion, you would know it is entirely this; some autist made the claim that fallout 4 was not an rpg because it did not have skill points.
I had to explain to him what an rpg was. then you came along and contributed nothing to the discussion. congratulations, you're literally worse than cancer. drink some bleach.
>Except those games were good all roads lead to hoover dam >muh choice and consequence
Brandon Hughes
Fallout 2 good.... >shit plot >broken system >you could end faster than fallout 4 and 3 >Hated by most of the shiite of the fallout community back then, until bethesda made Fo3 and they started loving it >Made with the worst that the 90's culture had, went from 50's setting to retard 90's KEWL jokes and retard shit like modern weapons and dumb 90's pop culture references
Now you will say that you hate tabletop RPG gaming too, and the only best RPG ever is planescape... because it was made by avelonne...
You obsidiots are worse than Nolan and snyderfags
Kayden Lee
> value 446
i'll take it since i never have more than 4k caps in survival
Liam Powell
or >mutant slayers gamma gun >ghoul slayers gamma gun
Luis Howard
>a progression system
Non-existent. Enemies level with the player, as does all equipment, meaning there is no progression.
>a dialogue system that the player can make choices in
The player is incapable of making any actual choices in any dialogue in the base game. Indeed, one would not be wrong to argue that Fallout 4 has no dialogue system in an RPG context, and instead features a number of interactive cutscenes that ultimately result in the same outcome.
Brody Turner
And some how its still better than 4 wow! Id rather have all that than a shitty halfbaked story, shit rpg mechanics, and a stupid son i dont care about ala david cage
Jack Phillips
>if you were following the discussion Something you didn't do considering 1 of the posts you linked to was about the cover system and the other was abut it being a shit RPG.
Go play in traffic you abortion.
Adrian Evans
Okay well everyone but the institute obviously.
Also that video is a bit better, but do I really have to do everything in this complicated order? I just want the best ending possible in the sense that I'll have the railroad and BOS available at endgame so I can do their content too.
also when does the SS learn that Father is Shaun? because in that vid, after getting banished, he still talks as if they kidnappe dhis son and he doesnt know father is shaun
Dylan Diaz
FO always had modern weapons There were just more of them in 2
There's nothing wrong with having modern weapons either considering divergent timeline.
Charles Kelly
Why are supermutant blowing themselves up What possible purpose does it serve
Tyler Nelson
>you hate tabletop RPG gaming No because you can work with the GM. You can tell him that you want to intimidate, coerce or seduce the NPC to affect the conversation, fuck, you can even just RP really fucking well and get the same. You can't do that in FO4 and only to a limited extend in FO2 and NV. But the point is that you can. Maybe you don't have the 8 charisma that you need to win the conversation but maybe you have terrifying presence or cannibal or 10 perception or 10 intelligence so you can catch him making a contradicting statement. That is the very fucking base line for Fallout. >planescape If i wanted to read a fucking book i'd do just that.
Colton Kelly
STUPID HUMAN LIKE YOU WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND!
Brody Ortiz
Planescape: Torment is a visual novel. Avellone said this himself.
>no progression >no choice >RPG's have distinct dialogue systems
bold claims. patently false.
Benjamin Ward
aww, did babby miss out on the big kids having a conversation?
lurk moar faggot
Levi Smith
Well apparently you did miss out and are now sitting at the kids table throwing food at the adults.
And you wonder why you're down there.
John Williams
the most "logical" reason would be that they breach settlement walls, and don't have a fatman/the knowhow to make grenades
Chase King
Almost lunch break and /v/Obsidiots are whining once again here at /fog/...
James Collins
Well considering they can't pass along their genes and don't necessarily need to be alive for their race to spread, it makes a crazy kind of sense. They live, "breed" and eat as a group, if killing themselves can feed the group, or help them capture more humans to dip in green stuff, they probably see it as acceptable.
Charles Collins
>are now sitting at the kids table throwing food at the adults. >And you wonder why you're down there.
Jose Powell
Way to prove my point you child.
Dylan Roberts
>this salty over being told the definition of rpg
Fallout 4 has a cover system, just like many tabletop games have a cover system.
Why couldn't Black Isle into cover systems?
Julian Evans
Sorry to bring reality to you fags, you were sooo busy discussing caits armpits and your amazing half baked rpg i just had to be a dick and poke holes in the sinking ship that is FO4
Gavin Turner
QQ more you overweight babby living in his moms basement
Tell her to put extra tendies for your mental anguish
Aiden Martin
I blame Fallout 2 for Fallout 4
Cooper King
ADA is the cutest Fallout girl!
Hunter Peterson
Because they were more concerned with writing and not with courting the skyrim audience
Alexander Wood
>acting self-righteous in a general discussing the latest game I bet you get mad that people don't discuss civ 4 much anymore either
Jackson Anderson
fraid not
kill yourself faggot
Josiah Reed
Many but not all It does have a cover system. It's called hide behind an object until the enemy reloads.
Dominic Smith
Shut the fuck up we're arguing right now
Christian Green
>Complete rite of passage >Back at Far Harbour they're boiling a Mire lurk alive
Now I feel bad
Nathan Johnson
I prefer Jezebel. She's such a tsundere cutie pie.
Jayden Nguyen
Still proving my point.
Julian Ramirez
Liking a shitty watered down rpg, phew must suck having garbage taste
Joshua Lee
>sinking ship that is Beth's most successful videogame
Jeremiah White
So what is your guy's favorite ending?
Elijah Adams
That thing was always there. Why are you fucking retarded.
Alexander Bailey
>SAMEFAG! >SAMEFAG DETECTED!
looking by the retard levels of autism is Walpknut or The Dutch Ghost from NMA and RpgCOdex
Kevin Moore
I thought those legendary effects were disabled for gamma guns
Landon Cooper
you have a point?
what was it again? just checking to see if you're paying attention. take your time. use your words.
Adam Nelson
>People share the same opinion >Must be samefag You know you only look dumb, right?
>m-muh autism
Hunter Flores
Anyone get the Minuteman ending?
if so how much content from the insitute do I have to fail?
I just want to get the courser companion perk and whatever else I can get from them in terms of permanent bonuses
yes I'm a completionist
Oliver Sullivan
Brotherhood. Fuck those "we're evil and we don't even know it" Institute shits. And fuck those "easily exploitable nearly retarded Synths are more valuable than Humans" Railroad idiots. The Minutemen are fine, they seem to have a good mindset and just want to make life better for the honest people of the Commonwealth. Personally I think you should be able to directly create and alliance between the Minutemen and whichever faction you choose.
Minutemen do the farming and society building, Brotherhood does the heavy lifting, science, and military work.
Landon Myers
So Far Harbor = Bar Harbor?
Luis Watson
I'm sorry your 5yr old self can't keep up. Might be time for a juice box and a nap. Take your time.
Connor Davis
drink bleach
Leo Anderson
>implying I even like fallout 4 people are discussing this game because there's a lot to talk about it still if you want to endlessly jerk yourself over past fallout games, the NMA is the perfect place for you
Jose Miller
Why do so many people hate the Brotherhood?
I fucking love them man. What happens if you end up going with them the whole way in regards to the Minutemen?
Juan Scott
I know ill call him a samefag! Nice bruised ego bitch
Carson Price
that is not a cover system, it is a player-only exploit
>8 beds in vault 13
Luis Turner
you can put the minuteman to work with the railroad and BoS without both killing each other
aggro the Institute and you'll get Minutemen option.
Matthew Long
This conclusion was made before the DLC even released. Allegedly if you go the place where the bridge in real life is you can find one broken and collapsed. I know you can see the forests of Maine off the coast, but you obviously cant reach them. It bothers me how far away it is from the commonwealth. Look at all that coast in between the two places that could have been content instead.
Michael Morgan
Seemed kind of weird to me because the implications were they didn't want the minutemen armed with artillery and wanted the farms subjugated.
Charles Cruz
This is also fallout general so we should be able to discuss any fallouts, sorry my opinion is so triggering to you
David Mitchell
im sorry i dont know anything about your shitty overpopulated side of the country
Jordan Harris
that also means that discussion of fallout 4 is fair game might as well complain that /feg/ is talking about fates
Dominic Thompson
>8 new posts how far can I go with the father and stuff before I can no longer nuke them with minutemen?
I also want to keep the railroad and the bos alive
Gavin Murphy
>railroad >alive
Kayden Bailey
>having a tantrum because New Vegas 2 will never happen
do you even know why you're so upset?
Jason James
Im not that person, but way to show how parinoid you are and how you cant accept criticism
Gavin Butler
follow the guide that user posted above, you can get both BoS and railroad favors if you do right
thus keeping them both alive and in "peace" with each other
Blake James
Nothing happens to the Minutemen. Same as nothing really happens to the Minutemen if you do their faction ending. Preston remains as the radiant quest giver and possibly companion depending on whether or not you activate the Institute evacuation alarm. Minutemen patrols still exist too. And after the game the institutes remaining forces decide to attack the castle for whatever reason.
You can even kill off the Brotherhood with them should you become a bumbling retard for some reason.
>wanting to let the railroad live
See above.
Brody Gray
>Shooting from cover is not the basics of gunfighting but a player only exploit Ayy lmao
>72 games I am not that poor
Noah Moore
Son, please. It's time for your nap. No need to get all fussy. When you wake up you can have some cookies.
Carson Gray
Sorry if i think waifu fagging is a bad discussion topic, jesus you fags would want this place to become like bioshock or ME general fuck
Dylan Cox
OK walpknut it is time to go back home, so you can play Dorkte may cry
Colton Ortiz
It is a player only exploit in Black Isle games though
Does Frank Horrigan hide around a corner until the player reloads? Does the Master? Shit, I don't even remember there being a cover system in PoE. Cuck.
Christian Fisher
What's with the Railroad hate?
Blake Harris
>Pillars of Eternity >Shit gameplay thanks to Sawyer
Ok Walpknut, stop samefagging
Nathan Cruz
you're strawmanning like a motherfucker i don't want this place to be a shitty waifufag general either i also don't want it to become a NMA circlejerk is that too hard for your brain to comprehend?
Elijah Wilson
They put the lives of synths before the lives of humans and they don't even do a good job of it. They essentially kill the original synth through a mind wipe and make them believe they're human with false memories.
Grayson Russell
>doesn't realize that Obsidian gave up on Fallout because of the autistic fanbase
Hell, even Bethesda jumped onto another project ASAP, wanting to put the franchise behind them as quickly as possible. Catering to toxic redditors must be exhausting.
Luis Bell
have you talked to them at all or just saw the relation to historical railroad? they're closer to ISIS than the underground railroad
Kayden Cox
Why would Horrigan, A Super Mutant mass of flesh and cybernetically grafted Power Armor parts need to hide behind anything when his skin alone shrugs off low caliber rounds?
And Master is attached to his control terminal and is already hard to defeat
John Gonzalez
>defending FO4 Such phillistines
Owen Reed
but user, he is from NMA and RPGcodex, the edgleord circlejerking shit there about
>bethesda hate >CDPR hate >Richard Gariott Sucks along with Ultima >Avelonne is god, Interplay is Jesus, Fallout 2 is holy spirit
is the same since EVER
Alexander Young
Clean up on aisle /fog/ janitors
Connor Flores
Yeah, must be exhausting shitting out a low effort game and raking in millions in pre-orders alone.
You're fucking retard, m8.
Jackson Baker
>Shit gameplay thanks to Sawyer
Sure, blame Sawyer. He wasn't responsible for the lack of cover in all their other games though, was he?
Aaron Johnson
>closer to ISIS LMAO how?
they only try to free the synths, they never say synths are more valuable than humans or vice versa
