Why are indians misclassified as caucasoid, but not aborigines and papuans?

Thing is, that India is a huge country with multitudes of different races and ethnicities. One cannot classify all of India under a certain category like "Austroloid", "Caucasoid", "Negroid" or "Mongoloid" since we have mixed with several different people over several millenia. Related is pic of myself.

>isolated tribes in india
oh wow. surely a relevation

mitochondrial DNA (which is maternally inherited) studies indicated that Indian mtDNA lineages cluster with the southeast Asians (Papuans), indicative of the Australoid-Veddoid substratum.

Modern studies indicate that the mtDNA lineages in India belong to the Australoid M haplogroup, whose Indian variety (T at np16223) probably originated around 48000 +/- 1500 years before present (i.e. about 46000 BC), and more than 98% of the M individuals carry this variety. This haplogroup is reaches 96.7% amongst the Kotas of the South.

Among its lineages M2 is the most diverse and occurs in significantly higher frequency among the Austro-asiatic tribals. The M3 (frequent among Dravidian tribals), M4, and M5 are also found in significant numbers.

See genome.org/cgi/content/full/13/10/2277/FIG4 for relations between these.

genome.org/cgi/content/full/13/10/2277/FIG1
genome.org/cgi/content/full/13/10/2277/FIG2

nope, you are confused my australoid cousin

dont confuse eurocentrism with reality
and dont let the euros subjugate us with fake identity

see

you look like a middle class kid who bugs his dad for a scooter when he gets to high school.

He actually looks like a gypsy. As an Eastern Euro I feel almost biological urge to punch him in the face.

thats how a lot of us indians look. I totally understand your urge. There is simply too many indians around now.

Fuck no, we have to take pride in our race and get Lebensraum for our people to flourish, since India is overpopulated as hell.

>remnants of the original language prior to adopting foreign IE and Elamo-Dravid of Persia

Similar to how Spanish went to Mexico and spread their language to the Aztecs.

are the Aztecs, Mayans, Incas... Caucasian too?

some few remnants of once widespread native languages still exist in the Americas, but the Mayans are not Caucasian

You are confused buddy, Haplogroups make up very little of a persons overall genetics.
Regardless mtdna M is all across Asia and is no the mark of Australoid

>1000% pure Australoid phenotype

stay strong and represent Veddoid stock
Australoid pride worldwide!!!

We should geld all the muslims and people who have more than 2 kids desu.
No you retard, the mundas, Kol and santhal are tribes that lived in an isolationist manner until very recently. Hell the brits only began kicking them out of the forests after the raj ended. Of course they are going to look different.

That, or we colonize Africa.

Why? Most people in our country are good for producing fertilizer and agitating for pointless stuff.

Advocating one's race or religion is never pointless.

india was Greater Papua for time immemorial, bro
We Wuz Papuans

only recently have we started deforesting our homeland (lush tropical jungle covered with Banyans, Ficus, Mangos)

the Kol are relics of our style (prior to adoption of Elamitic/IE civilization)

>go back to living in forest mudhuts and eating bugs
fuck off.
what race?
what religion?
The cow pee drinkers are subhuman 'people' that are pushing their retarded bullshit onto the international stage and creating a ruckus.

There are an estimated 20,000-25,000 human protein-coding genes, a very small fraction of the entire genome (approximately 1.5%)

human protein-coding gene = 1.5% of entire genome

that means that human genes are make up a small fraction of the entire genome

so with your shit logic human genes are irrelevant

but contrary to you, 1.5% is the critical piece that makes up humans

also Haplogroup M is dominant in Australoids and is an Australoid Haplogroup

While it is true that our country lags behind the western powers and China, I am certain that with a bit of Nationalism and restructured Hinduism (less non-violence, more focus on dharma and nationalism) we can best China and possibly even the West.

the mtdna Haplogroup M unites Australians, Papuans and Indians (Dravids, Hindis included)

there is no confusion aside from eurocentric view that indians are white

we are australoid! you wont separate us apart!

Australoid pride worldwide!!!!

Also your religion is nothing but a bunch of Semitic fairy tales made up by some madman living in the desert 2000 years ago.

but first we must gain awareness and reclaim our true identity and unite with our brothers!!

Veddoids of Papua, Australia, SEA, India, Arabia, east Africa UNITE!!!

can't tell if this is bait or actual bullshit bhakts tell themselves to sleep better at night

There are simply too many fucking indians to do anything efficiently.

India has never been non-nationalistic ever. Indian nationalism largely rests upon leftist rhetoric and being non interventionist with heavy marxist undertones.
fuck off gomutra drinker. Go kill some poor guy who is selling his cow because he can't maintain it. Maybe you can sell it's pee and profit handsomely in modi's india.

Fuck no, the Arabians misuse and torture members of our race in places like Saudi Arabia. I would rather give India to the communists than cooperate with those Bedouin devils.

The only reason they do that is because the arabs pay them far more money than they would get in india and the treatment is similar. f

Fuck off and go back to getting buttfucked by a catholic priest, you filthy Mleccha.

>muh gomata
>muh akhand bharat
>muh vedic age where everyone flew on planes and lived for 5000 years and every one was chaste

BJP brand of nationalism is literally wewuz tier bullshit that claims shit based on a mythical invented past on part with muzzies and their perfect prophet.

this is exactly what the non-australoids want

to weaken and confuse us with self-hate

but we have a greater strength that unites us from Australia to Papua to India: Australoid Power!

who let the abbo use the internet

I agree the BJP is glorifying the past too much, instead of focusing on actual issues (failed socialist economy, unclean streets and rivers, getting out competed by China)

India will be outcompeted by china. Hell the BJP blocked reforms that they are pushing themselves now because they were in power.

>failed socialist economy
tell that to the increasing middle class famalam. Going full on american capitalism in a country where politicians chimp out because they don't understand how statistics work will lead to disaster.

Which is why I advocate for the creation of China-style dictatorship in India.

Its going to implode or you will have to bulldoze most indian cultures and replace it with bhakt cancer.

>implying us Australoids didnt conquer the world

>implying us Australoids didnt rule Americas before the Mongoloids

>implying us Australoids didnt rule Europe before the Caucasoids

>implying us Australoids didnt rule SEA before the Mongoloids
Our model suggests that during this period of climatic upheaval, the descendants of the hunter-gatherers who survived through the Last Glacial Maximum were largely replaced by a population from another source

The new data show that the mitochondrial DNA of three individuals who lived in present-day Belgium and France before the coldest period in the last Ice Age -- the Last Glacial Maximum -- belonged to haplogroup M. This is remarkable because the M haplogroup is effectively absent in modern Europeans but is extremely common in Australoid populations.

sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/02/160204150602.htm

A sacrifice I'm willing to make

as long as it is your culture that is doing the bulldozing.

Idiots like you are like Willy, always wanting their place in the sun and ruining everything for everyone else.

Fact is, while India might be a poor superstitious shithole, it still is my homeland and as such I have to help improve it for the sake of my race and culture and honestly I don't care if some Chinks loose their jobs or if Pakis get bulldozed by the Indian army, as long as it is for the betterment of the Indian people it can't be helped.

>I have to
you just have to help your immediate community first you retard. Tell the Iocal municipal official to clean the drains, or make sure that your fucking street is clean. Change starts with yourself and spreads outwards.

I am sick and tired of middle class indians who complain about socialism and then start crying when the government decides to limit subsidies of natural gas.

Most Indians are perfectly fine with being hypocrites and will protest about Indians being mistreated in the middle east but will fuck over their own maids if they ask for a holiday.

I have in fact given money and food to homeless lepers.

Would India cooperate with Canada? Our allies think we're a laughing stock because we don't spend billions on our military and our current leader, and I personally think we should try to find other allies before America turns on us and annex's us (or America allows Russia to come from the Arctic to do the same thing to us, and I know our European allies won't do anything to help us).

sure you have.
I am not even memeing lad. But the middle class at large is just rushing to the next high. This is no way to build a sustainable country.

India spends billions on it's military and is still considered a laughing stock because memers don't understand that tacticool gear =/= operational efficiency.

Russia is not going to invade anything soon either way. burgers will squash them flat. Most military stuff is sabre rattling now anyways.

Indians honestly make me cringe. I despise them even more than Muslims. Indians are very physically unattractive and their languages are repulsive. Their women are usually better.

t. descendant of the prophet and true aryan man.

Well, that's good to hear. However, I never actually thought of India as a laughing stock though, because you guys are one of the upcoming (compared to Western nations) powers in Asia. Plus, the vast majority of people I might from India were quite nice (I remember we had Indian landlords before in Niagara Falls, and they were awesome). Arabic people are a different story.

Arab people >Indian subhumans

Have fun getting bombed to bits!

found the hyderabadi muslim.

I rather get bombed then get gang raped, then have my intestines cut out, then be pooped on by shitskin idiots

Indians smell, at least Arabs don't

At least Arabs look better and look more white, Indians look like ape retards

At least Indians don't constantly rape women, meanwhile I can go to places like Oman and Algeria and feel safe but in India and other shitholes in South Asia I'd be attacked

im not muslim but theyre more of my brothers than you are

To answer OP's question, I believe it's because before modern genetics, most of our classifications were based largely on culture, not necessarily descent. Though appearance influenced it greatly, when you're in a grey area a cultural bias pervaded.

Because most Indians speak an Indo-European language, they are considered to be leaning toward that group. Even if genetically they are more similar to Australoids, culture historically trumps that. You're right perhaps the classification should change. Interesting questions like this exist for any group that is mixed, such as many Hispanic people who's ancestors are both European and Amerindian. They'd also usually be considered to overall lean towards caucasoid.

Eventually everyone on earth will be caucasoid

sure bud.
I bet you are descended from the prophet as well.

...

Northern Indians are Caucasoid

am i the only indian who is non-selfhating and actually proud of being Veddoid?

why should i submit to the psuedoscience of eurocentrics?

theres more greatness in joining our people into one Pan-Australoid superpower then be a psuedo-euro.

and remember we once had most of asia and australia

North Indians have heavy caucasion admixture due to the aryan invasions and replacement of the north. The south is heavily another type with abo influences, but to compare them with abos is frankly ridiculous.
Because of the aryan indo-european influences, Indian ideology and the Hindu religion are heavily influenced by ideals that when reduced a bit, heavily mirror those of the west. Particularly when you remember to compare it to pre-christian Europe, the greco-roman west. That's why hindi has many words which are very similar to European languages and why hinduism has ancient European influences, eg the Greek gods to a degree.

the arabs as well as many other asians mixed with the original Australoid asians

pic related is an Australoid Arab

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Akhdam#Anthropology

pure Australoids still exist throughout Arabia, Persia, East Asia, but most have been largely mixed with the invading populations

India is the Australoid powerhouse of Asia

>tfw australoids basically invented modern algebra and our decimal system

and here i thought they were just good at sniffing petrol

I don't understand why it's necessary to be self-hating.

South India is much cleaner and more civil than the more industrial North even with less Caucasoid and Mongolid influence.

Kerala has an HDI about that of Eastern European countries without any oil to speak of.

As a Zoroastrian, I've always been fascinated with the Southerners. If they're more typical of what it means to be Australoid, that throws a wrench into the "race realist" ideas of how level of civilization and intelligence can be clearly clustered with race.

If your implication is that you're less likely to get raped in an Arab country, well, that's wrong; although you are less likely to have your story reported in the news. And less likely to receive a fair trial.

Rest assured, you're much less likely that anyone will give enough of a shit to put your rape story on the news if it happened in an Islamic country.

Meanwhile in India conviction rates for rapists are like 25% compared to ~9% in the UK, and every rape case that a journalist catches wind of ends up on national news. In the US you might hear about it in local news, not necessarily even the next state over.

Arab countries have shitty economies, militaries, and scientific productivity. the ones with decent economies have shit economic complexity.

Pakistan is closer racially to Indians and even as an Islamic state they're leagues ahead of what any arab country has managed in terms of self-sufficient economy and military.

With 1.3B+ people, India already has a scientific productivity that exceeds the world average.

India is a shitty country today and it's all over the news, because for all their shortcomings Indians value secular education as well as institutions such as secular government, democracy, and free speech. And they admire the achievement of science for its own sake. You'll find plenty of theocratic Indians as well but they are in the minority, and even they are interested in producing a productive sort of culture-based national conscious rather than delusion of Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.

It is not just important, but essential that more people are reporting rapes that occur and government corruption and rapes against dalits alike make it onto the national news.

You cannot have progress without honest and open discussion from all sides as well as a value for all things secular / worldly for their own sake. That is the most important difference between Arab political culture and Indian and it is why India will continue to make progress on while Arab countries will remain complacent.

You know, amartya sen isn't wrong when he said indian people are culturally conditioned to be argumentative. That is both your gift and your curse. India would be much better if ego, pride, and stubbornnes had less sway in indian politics.

t. Chinese person

Veddoids are the original inhabitants along the Indian ocean coasts. Look at India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan for example are basically abos that didn't make it all the way. Same with Andaman islanders, like the Sentinalese too. Ditto for Melanesians, Papuans. Melanesians have had more Asiatic infusion over the eons, but are related to abos. Negrito populations lived across SEAsia and the Filipinos before asiatic settlers came

and research the Aeta people of the SEA who lived all over Indo-China